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Sonya – thanks, I did that last month in the value adding section… got nowhere with it!
Matt- thanks, already did, have had some message interaction. Cheers!
MrWinfield – it was an old thread I was hoping to breathe some life into, due to my own investigations into a burnt house as a reno deal… but the thread owner NBS hasn’t been around for most of this year… Hoping it may come back to life but its not looking promising!
ft – some recent articles in property magazines warn of the shortage of tradesmen and builders in Sth Hedland. Expect significantly higher build prices than what you may have seen elsewhere, and longer build times. Or consider a kit-home instead. Just something to consider in your due diligence, that build costs and timeframe will be higher + longer.
JackFlash wrote:The sub contract thing is likely to be illegal under ATO rules (unless you do work for other design houses as well). Talk to an accountant about it.Just curious, is your claim about it being likely illegal due to something about contractors only being able to receive 80% of their income from one company as a contractor? or something else?
I have just requested a quote last week from a structural engineer for a 3 bedroom brick and tile house, built 1969. Issue is, this one is fire-damaged so I imagine his quote of $1495 + GST is higher than usual due to the fire damage and extra structural issues that come with that.
I am aiming to do turnover deals through value-add to build up a capital base, then invest in commercial real estate to provide passive income.
For an income of $100k p.a., and using average commercial yield around 8%, you’d need to have min $1.25mil cash to purchase commercial property.
that’s my strategy for now…
Jamie – u going to paint over the render?
Just out of interest, why did you choose to render then paint? My understanding is you can pay a little extra for a tinted render. Was this offered?
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Someone mentioned above that if your Mum plans to stay in her house longterm, you will need to be able to afford to hold onto the property until such time as a development could begin. The house will need work to make it tenantable for now, by the sounds of it.
Without knowing the suburb or median rents, and to give a broad generalisation, its pretty hard to find a house these days where if you purchase it with a 20% deposit and 80% loan the income covers the mortgage repayments. The house may end up costing you some money each month just to hold it for some possible capital growth and some possible future development. Be aware that to purchase it with an 80% loan, you’ll need 20% deposit + approx 5% closing costs + 5-10% renovations + holding costs for time of reno and advertising for a tenant.
Don’t be a pioneer in the suburb. As Derek suggested, drive around your suburb. Are there any other sites with a four townhouse development on them? If there is, don’t be afraid to ask for the builder and ask for a very rough quote on building something similar. For a gentle sloping block you should add at least 7% to the cost, for a difficult block with steeper slope add 20% to rhe construction cost.
I admire your interest and enquiries, and do agree that two neighbouring properties allow for more opportunity for standalone blocks. But as others have suggested, don’t forget all the other due diligence and research and be confident with the suburb from an investment point of view, and the location of the block. If the fact that its next door to your mum’s is the final icing on the cake, that’s great. But it should not be the reason for investing.
Don’t be scared by the overwhelming task of developing, there are loads of project managers out there who can oversee it on your behalf. This months API magazine features an “armchair developer” who is a ski instructor and outsourced the entire thing.
Good luck
EmmaHi Billy,
My understanding is that you can only claim deductions on a property from the time it was advertised/available for rent. So if it is unrentable, it is possibly unable for deductions until the property is used for an income-producing purpose. I am unaware if there are different rules for rural properties, there are many knowledgable people on this forum here who could assist.
Also be aware that any repairs you do to the house to make it liveable are deemed as capital improvements and can not be deducted immediately, but rather they are depreciated at a percentage rate over several years, usually 2.5% over 40 years but can vary depending on the work done.
If it was purchased by a company there could possibly be some way of carrying a loss forward into subsequent income-producing years, but you’d need advice from an accountant on this.
LVR = loan to value ratio. Usually banks like it <80%, and generally for loans of more than 80 or 85% they will charge you Lenders Mortgage Insurance. So for an LVR of 80 you will need to come up with 20% of the purchase price, PLUS the closing costs (as a rough ballpark allow another 5%. may vary based on state stamp duty rates and other factors.
In terms of a deposit when making the offer, often $2000 or something similarly low is sufficient for exchange of contracts. But when the offer goes unconditional, or the settlement occurs, you will need the remainder of your chosen deposit. Whether its 20% you have saved, to avoid the mortgage insurance, or less is up to your personal financial situation and what the banks are willing to lend.
Cheers,
EmmaI heard Aaron Sice speak at an APN (active property network) meeting a couple months ago. Haven’t done a development yet myself, but did send him an email with a query about a council area I was looking into.
From his presentation, Aaron came across as experienced, motivated, knowledgable, personable and all-round great guy. If I was looking at doing a development, he’d be the first person I contacted. Whether or not I’d proceed with his services I can’t say at this stage, as I haven’t looked into it. But I do know he’d be my first call.
So if I understand the above properly, then in very simplified terms:
*a SMSF can purchase a property, and could be tenants in common with another party
*however, the other parties on the title should not be related to trustee of SMSF (makes things difficult)
*AND the other parties on the title can not have a mortgage over their share, but needs to be bought outright
*Banks get scared of JVs with SMSFs and lending would be very difficult…So sounds like my possible scenario with the loan is not really acceptable under current SMSF guidelines.
Back to the drawing board
Michael,
Can a SMSF name go straight onto the tite? I recall reading something about SMSF investing in property through options or trusts or something more complex…
Are you suggesting that rather than a straight out "cash" loan direct to me for use on the property, the SMSF could say go on the title as 20% owner and therefore allow funds to be released at settlement?
Thanks,
EmmaI decided to get a painter in to do the whole job, and get him to supply paint. We already did DIY bathroom + kitchen stripout, tile removal, and spending this weekend doing deck resurfacing and erecting a fence, plus after work today installing a cabinet and tomorrow ripping out carpet. so doing enough odd jobs ourselves to keep costs down. My last two paint jobs i've worked alongside the professionals, in that i worked on sections all weekend or night time while they worked during the day, and seeing the difference in my speed and their speed made me wonder if i would ever DIY paint again!
Ended up getting a handyman with 15 years paint experience and references who vouched for his painting work instead of the licensed painter. would have preferred to go with the licensed guys, but HWS blew last week and needed replacing so that came out of my budget, plus the handyman's price was 60% of what the pros wanted, and he could start immediately… figured he'd do a much better job than i would anyway!
this article agrees with what your REAs were saying…
Hi Jazz
Requirements and definitions do vary a little from state to state I think, but all are clear that you can only apply once construction has completed, ie from May 2011. So I don’t think its relevant that he had no spouse when construction began… Its relevant he had a partner at time of construction completion, and some states define spouse as de facto from 12 months, others 24 months, all include spouse once married ie June 2011.
If he was to sign the application form today, I am fairly sure he would legally have to declare that he now has a spouse – you have to sign you have provided correct information, or they can reclaim the grant off you down the track…
However if there was some legitimate way to backdate the documents to pre-wedding and submit post-construction and pre-wedding, maybe its possible?
I wouldn’t rely on a verbal indication from one phone call – not if its anything like other government departments. Ring on 3 separate occasions, and each time note the name of the person you spoke to, date and time of call.
I avoided this situation personally by getting my husband to purchase our PPOR in his name prior to our wedding and claim the FHOG for himself, we had a nine month window between him getting permanent residency and being eligible and us reaching the de facto time limit.
so reading the below on the ATO website makes my proposal look somewhat difficult…
Restrictions
Super laws place restrictions on the types of entities your fund can invest in or with, and the entities that your fund can acquire assets from.
Investment restrictions exist because they protect fund members by making sure fund assets are not exposed to undue risks, like a business failing.The investment rules are one of the most important requirements of the super laws. Failure to comply with the rules can result in your fund losing its complying status and you as trustee of the fund being either:
*disqualified
*removed
*prosecuted, which may result in you being fined or imprisoned.Loans or financial help to members or a member’s relative
You can’t lend money or provide direct or indirect financial help (including the provision of credit) from your fund, to a member, or a member’s relative. For example, using fund assets to guarantee a personal loan would contravene this investment restriction.
A member or a member’s relative means any of the following:
*a parent, grandparent, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece, lineal descendant or adopted child of that individual or of his or her spouse
*a spouse of that individual or of any individual specified above.Hi Jason,
Thanks for the tips, appreciate it. Don’t worry I know to do plenty research to find out the correct price for the property and certainly will take the listing agent’s comments with a grain of salt, was just putting it in for perspective.
Also aware that structural repairs and things like rewiring all add up and don’t add value, which is why I’m keen to purchase well below market value and at the right price. Will see what I can discover about the vendor’s situation and how much $$ they are needing to recoup.
For now I’m really looking at any tips from the structural side of things, to look out for during inspection. Should be going to view tomorrow. I’m in WA.
Cheers,
Emmavisited the LGA website:
Quote:Rates are calculated by multiplying the Gross Rental Value (GRV) by the rate in the dollar.The GRV is an estimate of the rent a property could earn in a year.
Effective from 1 July 2011, where a residential property is vacant, the GRV is calculated as 3% of the market value of the land.
when visiting the property i'll get the rates payable from the REA… though i still have to find out the LGA rate.
property in WA, so section 32 doesn't apply…
but you guys got me thinking, the annual rates is usually a simple calculation of the council's set value for your property multiplied by a standard constant, right? so i could extrapolate that from the rates?
PH – how would a REA respond to being asked for the recent council valuation on the property? I imagine they would not be too forthcoming, given as its usually greatly undervalued compared to "market rate".
thanks for the comments