When a property had appreciated in value, they would sell it, pay out their loan & with the profits from the capital gain, move on to buy two (or more) smaller properties again. And so on, and so on! Basically, sell one, buy three!
There are lots of us forumites who buy property in NZ, as residents of Australia.
There are very complex laws for offshore investors, so I suggest that you seek qualified legal or accounting advice on this.
There are ways around it, but you must do things correctly.
The person you are referring to on the Today Tonight program is a New Zealander who is living and working in Australia. He is a resident of Australia. (I was the other one)!
I have only just finished answering a private message to another forumite on exactly the same question!!
I am happy to answer here for all to read. Please bear in mind that I’m not an accountant (farmer) and I suggest you get your own professional advice on this.
We have 2 trusts for IP’s. One for Aust, and one for NZ. They help us with tax minimization – (you can distribute income to family beneficiaries), and also for asset protection (the risk of being sued by someone).
The costs to set up are VERY ROUGHLY about $2,000 and maybe about $500 in taxation costs each year.
If you only intend to own one or two IP’s, then maybe they are not so beneficial, but for us, the benefits far outweigh the annual costs.
We bought Steve’s Wealth Guardian, and learned a fair bit from it. It explains different structures and their pro’s and con’s, and is easy for a beginner to understand.
I would suggest you to use the “search” function, and enter Trust Structures – there has been lots of discussion in the past.
We have a trust and I think it will always be more beneficial to have one, than not to have one.
All the politicians, and big wigs at the ATO have trusts, so I don’t think they will target them too much. It’s a bit like negative gearing I think – scare tactics.
BTW – I would say that all trusts are set up for tax minimization.
Probably my biggest regret was that when we started, (exactly 12 months ago), we didn’t really forsee ourselves owning lots of property, even though that was our goal.
At first, we bought 3 properties in our own names, and then realised that “we can do this” and then we set up our Trust Structure.
I would look into a trust structure from the start, don’t wait to find a property and then set it up. If you are really serious about property – just do it!
It will save you havinge some properties in this name, and some in that name etc.. as your bookwork & taxation is made more complex.
I would also consider finding a better accountant & solicitor, and I would DEFINATELY sack the bank manager and find a professional Mortgage Broker. I would look up on of the ones on this forum!
Once you get your “team” working for you, it all falls into place easily!
One of the questions TODAY TONIGHT asked me in my interview, which wasn’t aired, was “what is the best thing that the MAP program has given you”?
My answer was “CONFIDENCE” – Confidence to believe in myself, and to deal with RE Agents etc.
Steve doesn’t stand up in front of the group. He did for the first one, but that’s it. Now, he and Dave speak for about 10 minutes at the start of the meeting, and we do the rest for the next 8 – 9 hours.
As you say, the MAP program is a great starting point for us all, to get off our butts and do something.
Westan has had fantastic success in NZ (and in Victoria). He deserves a lot of respect and praise for getting out there and doing it. [:o)]
I have a few prop’s in Vic, and I have 8 prop’s in NZ so far, (19 tenants all up) and I will look for more soon in NZ.
I would recommend to anyone looking to invest in NZ to go there and check it out in person. It is different to Australia, one big thing is that NZ doesn’t generally use fixed term leases. Tenants seem to come and go as they please. This I found hard to come to grips with. Also the people ARE different, and have different values.
I think NZ is a great place, and is worthwhile to invest in, but do your research before buying in some smaller towns.
Also, consider the taxation issues and get some Quality advice. I’d only invest there if it was income that you wanted to grow and not to dip into all the time.
Anyone who can stay calm & patient, and not be SCREAMING THEIR HEADS OFF at some of the kids at school these days deserves every cent we can give em.[8]
I am a nervous wreck just getting my 2 angels (prep & grade 1) ready for school in the morning!![xx(]
I think they work pretty hard for their money.
I don’t agree with all of their days off that they seem to get during the school term though, it mucks up lots of working parents. They always seem to fall on long weekends…suspicious!
The two most valuable things that I’ve learned from the forum…um here goes – remember you asked for it! []
1. People are at all different levels in their investing career, but they are all appreciative of a bit of moral support and encouragement. I never try to critisize others as it can really be taken personally. If I disagree, I TRY to see their point of view, and I often learn a lot more about a subject.
2. When I first joined the forum, I used to be frightened to post questions, or even answers, fearing that many would think that I was dumb, but now I know that there are no real dumb questions or answers. (except maybe where to find +ve cashflow properties.. ha ha)
Now, I make an effort to try to help the new members (not newbies).
I’ll try to explain one way you can purchase with no money down.
Just say you buy a house for: $100,000
The required 20% deposit is: $20,000
The remaining loan amount is $80,000
The vendor leaves $20,000 in the deal, meaning that you borrow the remaining $80,000 from the bank as normal, and usually you pay the vendor interest on $20,000 for a set term period i.e.$20,000 @ say 7% for 2 years. At the end of the fixed period you repay the amount in full, usually by refinancing.
Sometimes you can even get the “vendor finance” at no interest charge if they are motivated to sell.
It’s great if you can do it!
Hope I have explained it clear enough for you!