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    lucigoosey wrote:

    Hi Speedy….. i may sound like i know what i am talking about but not really…. :)
    I dont understand the exchange rate risk, could you explain?

    your investment is paid is US dollars (rent), your loan is paid in AUD. If AUDUSD goes higher when you transfer the USD to AUD to pay the loan you will have less money to do so. Also vice versa…

    many of us are making a play on AUDUSD reverting back to 0.80 level, in effect you would be increasing your exposure to currency risk by getting a local loan, depends how confident you are in USD gaining some strength back…

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    lucigoosey wrote:
    Why not just borrow money in Oz seems to be similar interest rate…then? draw down on equity or something like that? I guess everyone is in a different situation with their finances.

    exchange rate risk

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    TassieJH wrote:
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    James

    Also, the way Wyoming and Nevada laws are written, the way compensation can be accessed is more difficult for the complainant, and protects you that way too.

    Hi Marthamel, As far as you know, is Nevada and/or Wyoming the best place for setting up an LLC for an individual (as opposed to multiple shareholders)? Cheers, TH

    Guys,

    We set up our Holding LLC in Wyoming as the on-going fees were slightly less based on the recommendations from the US advice we received.   After setting up the Holding LLC and receiving an EIN (US IRS Employer Identification Number) we were then able to open a US bank account.

    Currently we have "closed" on one property and in the process of another state by purchasing via another Property Owning LLC registered in the same state as the property that is then owned by the Holding LLC (WY) as a single "manager". We believe each Property Owning LLC will require its own EIN and bank account that will then pass back to the Holding LLC for total income reporting.

    I have current concerns about the taxation complexities but you can opt to have your reporting date the same as our Australian taxation of June 30 and all LLC reporting is "pass-through" for both US and Australian taxation.

    Various US attorneys are able to set up both the LLC and the associated bank account for around $700, lots of emails and scanned in ID to satisfy the individual state LLC formation requirements PLUS the IRS identification. 
                                                  No IRS EIN equals NO bank account for the LLC

    so say i buy a property in Vegas, get a Nevada LLC.. 2 years later I decide to get one in New York in which i put into a NY LLC, can i then get a holding LLC to group all my LLC's?

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    i totally agree on your viewpoint Nigel, and personally think Texas is the best market going froward, but there is always more than one way to skin a cat

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    jeff2investUSA wrote:
    [.to invest in Vegas is like playing roulette…..you have a very slim chance of winning In the end that is my opinion one can take it or leave it. Jeff

    i wouldnt quite say that, the success rate of foreigners MAY be harder based on economic factors and the local property climate, it all depends on the quality of your team, area within that market etc etc, so many factors, I mean Detroit seems crazy to me but its not like NO-ONE in the whole city is renting a place, so theirs pockets in  every city if you look hard enough…

    depends how active/passive you are, risk tolerance etc … im sure some people think buying physical gold and silver is smart these days and is 'logical' and 'safe' (LOL), markets and sentiment can change on a whim.. comfort levels differ from person to person

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    hypothetical here…

    say you form an LLC and lending was at normal practice/ pre GFC, could you just leverage up and take more risks cos there is no risk to personal assets? I assume its yes?

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    slightly off topic,

    can you name the LLC anyname? or its it just "your name LLC"

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    James you usually find the makeup of housing changes during bad economic times ie more people under the one roof, you also have to look at net interstate migration.

    Problem is people per household data is conducted via census if im correct, and isnt exactly updated often.

    Thats what comes to mind to explain this for me anyways, also probably a glut of supply hitting the market right about GFC time, developers arent know for their timing.

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    andrewe303 wrote:
    Sceptical Steve wrote:
    Perhaps those that are keen to invest in the USA should first read what Neil Jenman (a well recognised consumer advocate) has to say on the topic – click on the link below. As a Licensed Estate Agent and Property Advocate, my recommendation is that people should be very careful when they are about to part with their hard earned cash. The old adage of "if it sounds too good to be true, then it usually is" resonates strongly with this type of investment. http://www.jenman.com.au/news_alert.php?id=109

    "Right now, interests rates on home loans in America are half a percent. That means an American family can borrow $50,000 and pay $250 a year in interest! Why, then, would that same family pay $200 a week in rent when they can buy the property for a far lower payment? Something just doesn't seem right, does it?" ROFL Jenman claims others should do their research whilst claiming that interest rates in the USA are available at half a percent interest. A cursory glance at the internet would have shown him that he is WRONG. That is not a small mistake its a whopper….with double cheese. See the chart below for details… National mortgage rates 11/22/2010 8:58:36 PM LOAN TYPE +/- RATE 30 Yr Fixed 4.56% 15 Yr Fixed 3.97% 30 Yr Fixed Jumbo 5.25% 15 Yr Fixed Jumbo 4.60% Banks can get their money at half a percent but the average guy cant and the average guy is struggling to qualify for a loan with the stringent requirements. So how well researched is Neil Jenman consumer advocate?

    brilliant business those banks are in, borrow at 0.50%, and get 4% back…

    this is a pretty big fundamental error of jenman

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    klimmy wrote:
    Hi All, I just received HSBC application form to open an account in USA. If anyone wants me to email you the form, pls PM me. Cheers, Kev

    fo sho…

    yeh hook us up if you can, cheers

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    bump to this thread, id also be interested on everything james asks here…

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    British Buyer wrote:
    CHANGING WORLD ORDER

    Soros also spoke on the changing geopolitical order, outlining his expectations for a rapid decline of the United States, equaled in speed only by the ascent of China's economy since the global economic crisis erupted.

    China, he told his audience — which included Bank of Canada governors past and present and CEOs from banks and corporate giants like Research In Motion (RIM.TO) — has been unscathed by the crisis and now has a better working economy and a better working government than the United States.

    The present world order is on the brink of breaking down, he said.

    "There is now a rapid decline of the United States and a rapid rise of China," he said. "It is happening very quickly."

    He said that China got to where it is today by looking out for its own interests, but he warned that the Asian powerhouse would have to start considering the needs of others if the new world order is to emerge intact.

    "If they persist in their present course, it will lead to conflict," he said, adding that China's neighbors are already getting nervous about its rising global influence.

    Id be wary of old Georgey boy, he certainly has his own socilaist agenda that he's driving and its certainly in his interests to talk down the US. Also the sheer fact he will change his opinion/bias on a whim… his whole investment/trading thesis in discussed in his book "Alchemy of Finance", its not uncommon for him to cut and reverse positions as he constantly runs 2 possible scenarios in his head for whatever he's looking at, just gives different weighting for each one.

    Personally i think George is speaking more from a socialist rather than investment standpoint in recent times, and some circles ie Glenn Beck think he's the Antichrist lol

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    British Buyer wrote:
    TO WHITE_GOODMAN

    I wish I'd studied what you did.  Perpahs I'd be a Wall Street trader.  No, better yet, I could be a Shanghai trader, since that's where all the action is headed.

    What's your view on the Aus property market?  Bubbling, or sustainable due to the Chinese influence?

    Aus property market is a tough one, depends on state to state generally..

    Darwins going through a bit of a purple patch cos of govt and resources contracts, even was seeing growth during GFC. Sydney despite how expensive property is will still have a certain level of demand, one because council and govt are pretty tight on land release to reduce urban sprawl, plus banks are known to require developers a significant pre-com % before work begins. Qld and WA are having a minor correction due to an oversupply (basically all the developers were seeing record demand and growth in resi and specifically commercial – Perth were lowest vacancy in the WORLD tehn decided to all build not realising theres a time lag between start and finish and the market went from famine to buffet of properties). Melbourne im not too familiar, and im not to aware on Adeliade resi but their commercial should be booming in next few years with a lot of resource/mining companies moving there as mining projects take shape. Adelaide was the second best performing market as a whole during GFC, behind Darwin.

    My opinion on Sydney specifically is that we will probably see a lull or chop in capital gains growth across the board for a few years as wages growth should outpace property growth. We need to increase affordability as the ratio of median income: median household is circa 8 or 9 to 1, where as a rule f thumb or sweet spot is approx 3 or 4 to 1, where US is now if im not mistaken.

    But Sydney should be on another wave of boom, specifically closer to the city as the 2020 metro plan by state govt for future infrastructure has basically forecasted population growth half of what reality will be, so places closer to the city with stronger infrastructure in place should win out. Over the next 5 years I could see inflation creeping in mainly due to mining/resources, its been listed as a concern in the current RBA meeting minutes. What this means is that IR will be lifted to counteract, however eastern states like NSW and VIC who have no connection with mining will be paying for inflation from resource states through higher IR, could provide a little catalyst for a brief correction, however not major, as our lending practices, land release levels and relatively good monetary policy should avoid a GFC like correction, worst case scenario I would say 20% downside.

    Then again forecasting is a mugs game and anything can happen in the future, negative gearing or other tax  changes could provide a significant correction. Thats just my opinion, beauty of which i can change it with any further economic developments, im not married to my current opinion.

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    British Buyer wrote:
    Good input on the topic of stocks.  If mine was investing 101, yours was investing 505!

    Why do you want stocks to get cheaper when you've invested just for the dividends?

    I'm a total novice (or perhaps I should say "self taught") investor, so never approached the issue in the systematic way you have.

     My father is a non-materialist (was a low-paid government doctor before retiring) so got not lessons there. 

    At university I studied Biology, which turned out to be a total waste. 

    One of my greatest regrets in life was that I didn't get a degree in economics, since the flow of money, its efficiency, its wastage, and the wild variation in its value over time and distance, are truly fascinating to me.

    Due to my horrendous loss in the stock market back in 2001, I now keep 90% of my assets in property, with the remaining 10% in either stocks or cash.  I just "play" in the stock market, buying when it looks cheap, selling when its high.  I don't have the personality for owning large amounts of stocks.  Losing 30% of my net worth during a major market crash is just something I don't want in my life, and for me isn't worth the potential upside during a bull period.   I'm no George Soros! 

    I know I'm too overweight in property, especially since it's all in one country, which is why I'm trying to diversify out of Chinese property.

    the major difference between being overweight property and overweight stocks for eg is the nature of both markets… due to the fact property isnt as transparent in prices (ie constantly changing like on an exchange), this means the worst human instincts of hope and fear arent as prominent in 'buggering up' investments like in stock markets where peoples natural reaction is to buy tops and sell bottoms  which makes property investment easier to hold as there is a long time lag with information.The idea of modern portfolio theory and diversification carries too much weight in the investment world to be honest, Buffet made his fortune b concentrating on a few select companies (think it was Coca Cola was one), thats why in some circles its known as 'di-worsification'.

    I luckily completed my property economics degree then just spent the past year, my first year out of uni in a trading firm, so ive got a fairly good exposure to both, but ultimately its all just economics. The reason you want dividend stocks to go down (not too much just so they are cheap) is that the smartest and most proven strategy for investment in dividends is DCA (dollar cost averaging). Your trying to get the best yields for your investment dollars, which with share re-investment and regular purchases should let compounding take effect and build up a large position delivering good income streams. Its all explained in "Intelligent Investor" (Buffets Bible).

    The way your approaching it atm is probably best, cos its such a relatively small amount of your capital/net worth that the loss of money wont affect your living situation or future. This means ur more likely to act rationally and not crumble under pressure of falling prices, its very much a mental game which is why property as an investment class has significant advantage in this aspect.

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    British Buyer wrote:
    I also believe in group behaviour, and have incorporated it into my few simple stock-investing rules:

    1. Don't buy too soon after the market has crashed (my mistake in 2000).  Ie. don't get caught by the Dead Cat Bounce, or Don't Try To Catch A Falling Knife

    2. Buy when everyone is depressed.  Don't let this negative sentiment affect your logic.

    3. Don't try to pick winners (this applies to me since I'm not a professional investor, and have no inside scoops on specific companies).  Just spread your money (and your risk) around.  For example, I bought $5K of every stock listed on the Shanghai B-share bourse, since there's no transparency in China, so there's no point trying to be smart.

    4. When markets are rising, go with the flow.  The Trend Is Your Friend.  Herd Behaviour can make you a lot of money.

    5. Get out when the market has surpassed all previous highs (and has surpassed your expectations for capital gains).  If your servants are putting their money into stocks, that's a sell signal.

    to be honest that only looks like a minor correction, looking at current correlations it will still go up as long as people/funds keep having to pump funds in the 'risk on' trade. Due to the expectation of the RMB appreciating in the near to mid term global funds, specifically from the US will look to carry exposure there as they benefit from capital appreciation and exchange rate appreciation. The only problem is it may be trading way above fundamentals (P/E ratios etc) which isnt automatically mean down, just means not a good area to be 'loading up'. You are correct about markets being highly correlated, the automated arbitration and hedging strategies adopted between stock indcies and other investment classes means there is very little difference between ivnesting in the S&P to the Nikkei to the ASX200 as a basket… if you were to overlay the charts of all major world indicies you will see how surprisingly similar they look when looking back to the start of heavy computer automation in markets. Those rules are a pretty good guideline especially number 5 with contrarian indicators. There was a guy (forget his name) that invested basically on the opposite of what financially hit the front page. Ie "Gold set to go to record highs", he would short gold or take an anti gold correlated position. Thats why im also keen to hit the US property market, even though the AUD could very well go higher, its starting to gain traction in the news media.

    If anyones interested in good books on investing id recommend Benjamin Graham's – The intelligent Investor (make sure you get the revised edition with a 2003 update)

    if you want a great book on speculation/economics/market psychology, I subscribe to George Soros – The Alchemy of Finance

    also its important to recognise theirs a major difference between investing and speculation, that being investment indicates you receive an income (dividends) where speculation is where profit is based on simply price gains. As a rule I weight my portfolio
    as 60% dividend stocks (investment – where you funnily enough want stocks to get cheaper), 25% speculation and 15% cash (savings account as I cant be arsed buying bonds)… obviously wightings all depends on financial situation and risk tolerance.

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    heres a little something i picked up in my researchings….

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    Floating the RMB would be the major balancer of the current account deficit problems the west have at the moment… China needs to really be brought into line at G20, likewise the US who are ruining export economies.

    Reasons im looking to the US:
    – negative sentiment on US is very high both domestically and internationally
    – Fed and treasury have drawn a line in the sand and will not let asset prices deflate significantly further. They cant provide all this stimulus, QE etc then if another problem hits say "no stimulus, its bad economic policy"
    – hyper inflation is NOT on the table despite how much i disagree with current economic policy
    – treasuries are so over bought (no yield) that investors are forced into risk assets such as stocks,commodities and this will eventually be reflected in property which naturally has a time lag.
    – doom and gloom/NWO forecasting is the flavour of the month (Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Harry Dent, Gerald Celente etc) despite how viable it sounds, however markets rarely react in the way the majority perceive it as going
    – My mum and dad think investing in the US property market is a bad idea – contrarian indicator
    – with investing it is unwise to bet against the US – Warren Buffet

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    British Buyer wrote:
    [).

    I also preferred Miami because of the lifestyle potential should I end up living here.

    Best of luck
    Steve

    theres a little bit of Tony Montana in all of us, i might go play GTA Vice City for a bit for 'research'

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    Intrigue wrote:
    Hi white goodman, is that a foreign language? I having trouble understanding.

    Are you saying, you feel that peoples interest in gold and silver has aided in driving the property bubble? (maybe you mean about ones willingness to accept more and more debt?)

    Then are you saying that you feel that gold and silver is not at the top of its cycle and if you didnt get in 3 years ago, you missed the boat?

    What are you investing in currently? property.. shares?

    no disprepect intended, just trying to understand

    what?… im looking to property atm, im long gold currently from 1070 dollar mark, ive traded professionally for a few years now and imo, gold and silver are not at the right point in their 'cycle' to begin building up a position. Then again gold and silver could go to $10,000 but your still getting a terrible price atm… the only way you could play it is wait for a dip to buy and hold yourself to a price to get out at. Too many perma bulls in 'precious' metals and alot of people storing the physical stuff will be getting burnt I feel.

    Too many people with mantras such as "it must go up" with no view of any possible downside. Id love to see the gold and silver market when the Fed star raising rates again. It is generally said anything that doest pay an income (dividend/rent) is speculation as opposed to an investment… plenty of other markets, world regions at the lows of their cycles, imo no need to chase a market well on its way in a self reinforcing reflexive bull run. Theres always new markets, no need to be a sheep.

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