no need to apologize (i live in south australia), we can’t all be Victorians[].
try Elders for Trust homes in Regional SA and Jackman and Treloar for Northern Adelaide
bye westan
i don’t pay a lot of attention to Paul Clitheroe “money” show. but he made a comment on cars and said “buy the cheapest car your ego could live with”.
personally i’d never get a loan for a car, its a poverty trap, i know lots of average earners who are stuck in the car loan merry-go-round.
westan
Lizzy interesting to hear your comments on tas, i owned a property in clarendonvale (sold it recently) and it was a nightmare, at that time i owned about 15 homes and it caused more headaches than the rest combined. lizzy i too have warned about this area, on this forum. i found that there are few agents wanting to take on management in these suburbs because of the constant problems with tenants. and the insurance company i use wont take on anymore properties in some of these areas.
buyers beware.
westan
firstly i can’t believe i’m even joining in this topic.[xx(]
pinky on “today tonight” last night they said that it was out of cosima’s hands when she made the announcement. the producers of the show chose when she was to make the announcement
bye westan
why don’t you ring the housing commision and ask them, i’m sure someone will tell you exactly what is going on. you could be sitting on a nice Capital gain there. last year i wanted to buy a whole street inMillicent from the housing Trust but the whole deal got messed up by an incompetent agent, pity it would have made me a packet.
westan
we are talking about houses that are privately owned but built by the state housing authorities. but the govt does sell them off every so often check with you state housing dept.
westan
i gather you pay 6k now but settle in 12 months. if it hasn’t gone up in price and you settle then you need to come up with the 150k ???
one possible outcome is you buy it with finance, you hope that it goes up in value by at least the interest rate plus rates for you to break even.
personally i don’t like land because there is no income coming in, in this deal you are totally a capital gains play. at least if it had a house you would get some money to help cover costs.
another issue to consider is finance. you say 5.8% that sound a very good rate but i’d be surprised if you could get that on land (without extra security like your home). it will also mess up your servicability for future lending, and you may not be able to borrow any more cash (depends on your income ?).
sorry for being negative, the deal might be ok but i’d be careful. i did try to buy land last year but was beaten too it, in this case i was going to subdivide it and resell for a huge profit[xx(].
all the best
westan
i’d check the figures again maybe you have added some monthly fees as weekly fees ?
20% just sounds too high to be right[xx(]
at the most 10% is tops i would think.
as far as managing the property yourself, i’ve done it and i don’t particularily like it, i’m too soft on the tenants so unless you can be tough and on the ball with the rent comming in i’d find someone else.
one story for you. i own a house about 30km away and rented it out. the young single mum seemed ok and bought her mother with her to inspect the house. the girls mother was very nice also. i did some checking up on her and the local property manager who i know well told me she was a good tenant but not her ex husband. this was fine because he was no longer on the scene. well a few months later it all turned bad. she got back with the ex and he moved in. soon i was getting calls from the neighbours complaining that he was selling drugs from the house all hours of the night and day. eventually i bluffed them and they moved on but not before a few sleep interupted nights.
i think the sister idea is a good one but she needs to know the relevant laws and be prepared for the worst case senario
all the best westan
if i was in UK i wouldn’t even think about managing it myself. what if the tenant doesn’t pay rent, what if the property gets progressively run down. for me an agent will save me money and head aches.
bye westan
most of the properties i’ve bought are ex commission houses.
these homes are easy to fix up and usually in a structurally sound condition. they are low maintenance as well.
some people claim you won’t make any capital gains on these properties. this is rubbish. i have acheieved better capital growth from these type of house in the past 5 yrs than the best areas of Melb/Sydney. One property i bought in Adelaide for 24k in 1997 i’ve sold for 93k in 2003. but that is the past what of the future??
Some tips for you. always make sure your home is well presented, as the quality of the house will refect the quality of the tenant. run down properties get bad tenants. check the area out well and don’t buy in areas where vacant houses get damaged.
i’ll keep buying these homes at the right price.
westan
“You kidding right? He was flying at the speed of sound and fighting 100 agent smiths at once!”
yes he was but given his power at the end of the 1st film he didn’t even need to fight, bullets fell out of the sky. he should have be able to stand there and they couldn’t hurt him. thats why i thought it was inconsistant.
westan
i thought that it wasn’t consistent with the first one. in that, at the end of the 1st one he was superhuman (while in the matrix) and in the 2nd he was just very good, he seemed to have lost his power ?
plus it was a bit long, with a lot of boring bits.
sorry before i answer i have some questions for you
what is your goal with this deal ?
i assume capital growth ?
is it you plan to build on the land, sell the land ? when do you want to sell. how much does the land cost you to own.
are you getting finance what sort interest rates,
westan
usually you should put the conditions in with the offer. i’d ring the agent and talk about it.
it sounds like your partner is fine with the cash but perhaps check with them to avoid any unseen problem.
it’s good to get preapproval because then you can make the offer unconditional which carries a bit more weight. all you need to do it run the senario through your prefered finance suppier.
westan
don’t laugh mini from the servicemen i’ve met over the years they are doing a great job at teaching them “theres a time to have the brains of and idiot “.[]
these guys catch on real quick. (sorry to you ex servicemen just joking)[]
westan
you need to do the following hopefully you would have done some of these
1.checked the property out structurally to make sure it is OK. maybe a builders report.
2. check you have financial approval if you are getting a loan. it looks like the agent is asking for an unconditional offer this means you cannot get out of it. unlike an offer subject to finance which you can. the seller would insist on this otherwise you may back out and he has cancelled the auction thinking you will buy it.
3. do your due diligence in regard to rental return, check demand by calling other property managers asking about rental return and demand. you do this to make sure your figures are correct.
4. you need to exchange contract. this means you and the seller both must sign the papers by friday creating a legal agreement.
hope that helps
westan
celivia i like the idea of a small present for kids. but kay no matter which way you look at it aren’t we still trying to ultimately serve ourselves by keeping a happy tenant. i look at the situation as i am providing them with a well maintained house at a reasonable price all year i don’t expect a present from them for doing this, so should i give one? we are in an even situation already i provide a house they pay rent. just another way of looking at it. i know what you are planning is nice but i’m not convinced necessary.
i also like the idea of cleaning the carpet at Xmas time if a tenant has been in for 12 months, but once again kay, it is for my benifit also in restoring the quality of the carpet.
westan
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