Hi Joni

past ones are available at http://www.stats.govt.nz/

i supposewhat you really want is future projections for population trends some times the Government ones need to be considered lightly. In Australia all the experts predicted that Tas would continue to loose population, however i read the latest report late last year that Tasmania’s population was actually growing again.

I think a bit of local knowledge and common sense is the best tool available.

i have come to the opinion (and welcome others comments) that these areas will grow in population

Tauranga – has it all sandy beach, nice weather, tourism, port, industry, jobs. Close to Auckland. Has been the big growth area and will continue to be. (also the reat of the Bay of Plenty)

Hamilton – Uni, close to Auckland, cheaper than Auckland.

In the South Island – Central Otago (queenstown, Wanaka and sourounding areas.

also Nelson at the top of the south island

Its interesting that a lot of towns which have lost population over the past decade especially in the south Island where i live, appear to be growing again strongly. I believe the next statistics will confirm what everyone says that the population is rising again.

If you are after cash flow properties in these high growth areas i have mentioned you are a few years too late.

regards westan

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wiallflower what on earth are you talking about, i’m in New Zealand that might explain my ignorance as its still 1997 here.

bye westan

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Hi Ladies (and Super Ted)

i don’t know who you are talking about, but it just goes to show that we (especially the ladies) need to be careful on things like internet forums. It’s sad but sometimes i think its better for the girls to keep there identity secret. Having said all that, everyone that i have meet personally though this forum have been absolutley top people, i love them all, they have all been fantastic to meet in person.

regards westan

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Hi Guys

sorry if i’ve offended anyone, i just see this as good robust discussion, nothing personal intended. we all have the right to ask whatever we like. Bring on the questions this discussion is great. I only wanted to make the point that just because in Monopoly’s example the negative geared property worked out the better buy it does not mean that negative gearing is the best option. Clearly capital growth will set you up for ever.
regards westan

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Hi Michael

it is actually quite common to find high yeilding properties that outperform the so called capital growth areas.

this is posible because a lot of smaller areas are/have been undervalued for a long time and overlooked.

What we have been seeing at the cheaper end of the market is it is rising at about the same rate as the middle of the market so if a home for 100k rises 20k we are seeing the cheaper end say 70k move 20k also. so as a % return it actually outperforms the higher priced property

regards westan

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Hi Matt

welcome to the forum.

6 months ago i lived in stawell, 65km from Horsham and i own properties in horsham, therefore i keep and eye on the market there even though i now live in NZ.

The market has started to slow down a little i hear however buyers still outway supply. Properties in North Horsham give the best return, One of mine for example is in Hennesey st, it is let at 155pw and it would sell for about 95k at the moment. I like Horsham for the following reasons and i’m not selling mine.
1. Horsham is the Biggest city from ballarat to Murray Bridge in SA, and from warrambool to Mildura. so it has a lot of Govnt jobs etc, as well as a major retail center.
2. when the north os Horsham has a poor season the south farms tend to do well, so the local farmers tell me.
3. the mineral sands project at douglas south of Horsham will have some positive effect on horsham.
4. the future posibile gold mine at Murtoa and further north (maybe a long shot, check out MPI mines.

as far as Hamilton NZ goes i would say its a good area to buy (i don’t own any there). it is a growing city 4 largest in NZ now

regards westan

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Ok guys lets stop talking about earthquakes, our discussion is starting to cause them, [worried].

can we talk about ?

ummmm what was that. did you feel that ?

regards westan

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Castledreamer

LOL, while i read your post, i too remember watching shows on tidal Waves, now when i go to the beach i look out to see just in case. Oh, and i also look aroung where i’d head if a tidal waves came along, Gotta be prepared just in case (yer i know i’m [confused2] but its hard not to think these stumid thoughts).
By the way i still drive my car everyday even though 1,000’s of people are killed on the roads.

regards westan

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Hi Guys

of course the lower returning home with the capital growth is better, thats obvious no arguement, what i’m saying is the question is faulty,
It’s like me saying which is better a cash positive property making 10% return and 7% capital growth or a negative geared property making 5% capital growth, obviously the first property will be the better home to invest in. The homes i think you should be buying are cash positive and have capital growth, you don’t have to have growth or cash flow, you can have both.. Having said that i’d much rather a cash pos. home with growth than one without cash flow
wouldn’t you agree ???

regards westan

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Hi Guys

my 2 favourities are “Rich Dad Poor Dad” by Robert Kiyosaki

and “real estate Riches” by Dolf de roos

both excellent starting books, and must reads.

regards westan

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