as far as expected capital growth, if you had asked me 3 months ago i would have said continued slow growth. However somethings have changed recently.
Firstly the RBNZ has continued to life interest rates even though it was already the highest in the developed world. Personally i think the rates will end up coming back in the next 12 months but the RBNZ makes the decision not me. The economy over here is doing very well and therefore his thoughts are he must slow it down (no doesn’t make sense to me either), why not enjoy growth and the prosperity it brings as long as its not out of control and it clearly isn’t. (enough of my soap box).
2. Most of NZ has had great growth recently, however not as large as Austrlia’s growth.
3. Immigration has been slowed. Imigration has been a real neccessity for the country and helped drive housing demand it is now slowing.
OK so given these three factures demand for housing in NZ has slowed greatly and now we are starting to see a flattening of the market. I see this as a healthy thing.
There are still areas of NZ that will continue to show capital growth and the wise investor will try to find these. It has been a personal startegy of mine to buy in areas that are having something happen that will drive up the demand for housing , something such as new industries etc. I’d say look for these types of possibilities.
But there are areas that will not grow and may even decline, most of the talk of a market in decline is around areas of Auckland especially the new unit market.
hope this help a little
Muppet i’d be interested in your thought on this topic.
regards westan
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just a response about the property that you posted, you need to be careful with towns like Murupara, its only a small place of about 2,000 people and considered very romote by NZ standards. I notice on the ad it says Rotorua, well rotorua is about 70km away. The town has large unemployment 31% compared to the NZ average of 46%. But if it still interests you then you must make sure you have a local property manager who can help you, i doubt if Murupara has one ?
all the best
westan
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you can do better than that, how about something like
No don’t buy there the river is dieing up and there will be a lack of water to sustain any population in the future. Or what about global warming will make the area a desert. Come on something for a bit of discussion.[biggrin]
regards westan
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Well, day 3 and the Aussies are still in second place in the world, not Bad going. GO AUSSIES,
regarding those poor girls in the Kiwi boat-
one of the current affairs shows over here in NZ mentioned yesterday that the Aussies are laughing at Us. They showed a take from Roy and HG where they were talking about the girls falling out of the boat. The NZers didn’t see the funny side of it.
It was very Humerous, nearly as funny as Australia One splitting in half and sinking during an Americans Cup challenge race. Yes that was funny too, see sometimes if its funny we need to laugh at ourselves. Unfortunatly i have to laugh at myself all the time[angry2].
regards westan
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actually i made a mistake and meant to say Mildura as that is the Topic of discussion here.
But while we are on Portland, yes it has had years of decline BUT
Look at what is happening in the future
firstly the Mineral sands projects in Western Victoria, needing to be shipped out somewhere which will be Portland. ( plus The decline of Melbourne as a Port as the Ripp to too shallow for many of the super boats being build today). so we have increasing use of the Port due to mineral sands projects.
Possible Synthetic Rutile processing plant (maybe at Hamilton?). If it proceeded it would be a huge 200 hectare site, and be a $500 million project. It would be the center of Illuka’s world rutile production. Portland is keen to see this development in their City should it go ahead in about 2008.
Potential $1 billion pulp paper factory to be built between Portland and Heywood 1000 jobs (10 years away). Government is currently looking at potential sites. This project would be of a world scale.
Plus the increasing tourism of the region with the new discovery center and tram,
plus the ripple effect of the Sea change having reached Portland,
Plus the Wind mills being build and the commponent being constructed at Portland (and maybe ones in the future).
the rental demand is already strong in portland
regards westan
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Portland isn’t the only area that is having some fantastic things happening, do some investigation, i’ve been trying to tell you guys for years that there is huge capital growth prospects outside the Capital cities, but saddly the idea that Melbourne and Sydney are the only places to invest continue to be believed.
regards westan
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i’m with you redwing on Qld especially SE Qld, In Victoria i’d be looking at Geelong and Mildura, but i’d also be reading the 2030 plan for Melbourne.
as far as NZ goes for capital growth i’d be looking at Dunedin in the South Island and Hamilton in the North Island.
But obvously it depends what you want to achieve and where you are in you investing plan, if you want cash flow i’d be mentioning a lot of places in NZ (but i can’t mention them here as i’m trying to buy there myself and for others)
regards westan
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there are two sleeping Giants as far as Mildura goes
these are
Mineral Sands Projects
Enviromissions solar chimney
First the Mineral sands project, there is an incredible amount of mineral sands in the Murray valley and one day it will be huge, as we will see of the one down near Hamilton and Horsham by Iluka resources.
The solar tower planned to be built by Enviromission will be an even grander project, cosying around $1 billion this will create many jobs and great wealth for the area. http://www.enviromission.com.au
on a lesser scale the new marina will make the city an even more popular retirement option. Is it possible Mildura will become the Gold Coast of Victoria (well sort of)?
Do a search on mildura on this form.
regards westan
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i’m with property Guru on this one, you must get cash positive but buy in areas that you expect (not just hope) to get some capital appreciation. It has been possible in the past to buy cash positive and have higher capital appreciation than the so called growth areas that Wakelin etc insist on.
No one knows what will happen in the future.
regards westan
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are you asking why 10.4%, if so, its steve’s idea of when a deal starts to look atractive, personally and i’m sure steve agrees, i like a bit better than 10.4%, but in today market thats about as good as it gets it appears. (or is it ?)
regards westan
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you need to update a lot of your info, interest rates are now over 8% not
Similar to Australia’s. About 6.7%
from your site
But in some regional centres of NZ the ripple is just about to hit.
This is not true the market has already had great growth.
Because the Australian market is a few years ahead of the Kiwis we can use our hindsight of the Australian market to gain insight into the NZ market
i feel what you are saying is 12 months old. i’m of the opinion that the market here has already experienced a lot of growth and is settling down. i feel the NZ market is only 12 months behind OZ.
Taken from your site
“Provincial centres and rural areas outperformed the major centres.†Reuters News, 17. March 2004, ‘NZ property market picks up in February – REINZ’
This shows that most of the growth has already happened.
You are right there are still great deals but don’t expect a lot of capital growth now.
regards westan
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yes i agree with dreamcastles comments, she is also a top spotter. (gee we are all very nice to each other [cap]).
i encourage you to feel free to contact all the above mentioned spotters, i have met them all and they are excellent people as well as top stoppers.
regards
Westan
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i think we should drop the term “Great” depression from my limited knowledge it was great for only af ew, for the vast majority it was a time of immense hardship. Thinking about it, the same thing for the 1914-18 war, they call that the “great war”, sure some people had a ball but really its a war, and many people got killed. i know before you criticise me and argue it must have been great because they were all back there 21 years later, i just don’t really get it.[blink]
westan
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i agree it was tough on “us” Kiwi’s with one man down, i’m sure we will be a stronger team if we could just remember the rules. Someone has to teach our guys the off side rule.
regards westan
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yes well done a great win. Yes you were right they need to score tries to win. so NO tries to the All Blacks, It must be a real worry now that 2 tries from 3 matches. I think they are on the slippery slope down. They might need to re look at their whole gameplan. a few months ago they played well against a very undermanned England and won with lots of tries, suddenly its all turned pear shaped.
What are they going to do Muppet ?? there is a real risk they may not even make the finals, what a pity after looking so good early in the season.
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