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    I would like to make a couple of points arising from this thread, which are not immediatly obvious:

    dmichie said – “Perhaps I should pick up a Tony Robbins video, that should sort me out”

    Just to ensure you keep true to us bears, I will be happy to furnish you with a nice little CD Tony Robbins put together with Robert Prechter…discussing the imminent collapse of the US economy. :)

    Greg F said: – “The bottom line? Let all the doom and gloomers sit on their hands whilst more experienced operators keep making money.”

    The monumental assumption that: a/ bears sit on their hands and b/ bears are not experienced, is not likely to be accurate. A true bear is in fact an eager and seasoned buyer in my experience. He will however be looking for value and sanity to be restored to the marketplace before buying with ears pinned back.

    As a matter of fact most miss the point of the doom and gloomers… and that is to talk down an inflated market so that we can buy value.

    So just adding my voice here…The economy is ****ed and you should all panick sell before the sky falls down HAhahaha

    Robert said: – “I especially love it when the US stock market is in a downward trend. It is easy money!!!”

    I also noticed the hypocricy…and whilst agreeing with the comment, I have to say that a bull market is much easier money for several reasons….most importantly, because the influense of 0 on the mathematics, and its effect on risk/reward ratios.

    …just joining in the fun folks LOL

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    Originally posted by The Mortgage Adviser:

    I would not use insider info. Why risk everything for a few dollars?

    I must admit Rob, I wouldn’t either. Making money within the rules is achievable enough without risking all.

    I have several friends who were caught up in the WA Inc. saga, who are still suffering today (both financially and health wise) from having been caught messing with the rules. e.g. Tony Oats. Others, like RR, are no longer alive, due to the stress of dealing with the authorities.

    Apart from a personal code of ethics, witnessing this has been enough to keep me on the straight and narrow.

    But I often ask this question of people I know. Not one has ever said they would not use it.

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    Originally posted by pelican:

    He was by no means completely innocent… but as we are all taught at some stage in life….. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones……

    Very true Pelican,

    How many of us, if offered inside info, would take it and use it to make money? I would have to say nearly 100%.

    Apparantly there is a story in The Age (have not read as live in Perth) about an investor who gave a “professional” fund manager a million dollars, which he promptly turned into $100,000! It took him only 3 months to achieve this remarkable feat!

    Which kinda puts RR’s $300 “insider” deal into perspective.

    Hmmmmm

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    Marc

    scallywag – http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scallywag

    Re >>>If you are ever at the receiving end of any window dressing government department you can only feel sorry for whoever they decide to attack for political point scoring.<<<

    I couldn’t agree with you more, it was bulls***! He was still a scallywag though!

    >>> Call again when you have your own yacht with helicopter on the back deck.<<<

    I don’t measure myself, nor other people by the toys they own. I don’t think the big fella upstairs does either. So I will call again whenever I please ’cause a helicoptor or a yacht is not on the wishlist.

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    Rob,

    In agreeance with you here. RR was a scalliwag, anyone who’s been arround the markets a bit will know that. But the market is full of them. Renee was no better or worse than a lot of the scoundrals who manipulate markets…I see it every single day with my line of work.

    But we too, were struck by the “disgraced” tag as something a bit unneccesary now he’s gone. It’s like they have to give him on last boot in the head while his family watches on…disgraceful in view of the fact that most scalliwags (RR included) have a good side to them as well.

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    >>>>petard<<<<

    Going way off at a tangent here, but for those unfamiliar with the word, this is quite amusing:

    Word History: The French used pétard, “a loud discharge of intestinal gas,” for a kind of infernal engine for blasting through the gates of a city. “To be hoist by one’s own petard,” a now proverbial phrase apparently originating with Shakespeare’s Hamlet (around 1604) not long after the word entered English (around 1598), means “to blow oneself up with one’s own bomb, be undone by one’s own devices.” The French noun pet, “fart,” developed regularly from the Latin noun pditum, from the Indo-European root *pezd-, “fart.”

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    Hot air?

    I notice you seem to be continuously hoisted on your own petard.

    In your petulant attack on what is a well thought out and written opinion, you have once again made a baseless presumption, that our friend Mr North does not actually participate in the game of life. Unless of course you are privy to his affairs and know something of his economic activity the rest of us don’t.

    This article, had I the writing skills, is something that I could have written myself. And you could, and probably would, have presumed the same about me as I don’t disclose my details.

    You would be wrong again!!!!

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    Another great Gary North atricle!

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    Well that counts out about 99.9999% of property in Oz!

    (I know its not as bad as that, but please indulge my use of hyberbole. It actually only counts out about 99.9996% of property in Oz)

    :)

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    Originally posted by AUSPROP:

    the building price would be around 40% higher than what i signed up for.

    Holy Crap!

    Didn’t know it was happening to that extent! I’ll have to get out of my cave more often!

    Did Buckeridge ever set up that brick plant?

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    Originally posted by AUSPROP:

    Of course we also need to consider rents when we consider housign affordability. With rents at such low levels it could be said that renters are getting a free ride on the coat tails of homeowners. One easy way to boost housing affordability would be to drop negative gearing, thereby decreasing demand for property, boosting the rent levels and removing a whole heap of government distortion from the market.

    That’d get my vote

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    Yeh agree Dazzling (answer to post below)

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    Originally posted by Perry:

    …not all that BS about delta gamma etc.

    The funny thing is, is that eventually you will learn what they mean…the hard way.

    Far better to learn them the easy way. I.E. BEFORE you blow up your account.

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    Originally posted by foundation:

    Hear Hear Nat. Well put.

    ditto

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    Originally posted by 1Winner:

    Dazzling I think your post is in poor taste and is a poor atempt to gather support to ridicule people’s religion as you call it.
    Obviously you failed considering the balanced responses you got.

    Hmmm. In light of you very own comments about catholocism, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable metaphor. Chill!

    Anyway, clicked on your site and spotted this little doosie in FAQ’s:

    “Is it like Amway, Herbalife or Neways?

    No it is not like Amway, Herbalife, Neways…”

    It appears that your website (which the links to, were contained in your posts which have been deleted)is promoting a network marketing business.

    So it would appear that it is like Amway et al.

    Are you comfortable with this apparent contradiction?

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    20 horses on 14 acres?????

    You will end up with a polluted, sour dustbowl and you’ll have to hand feed.

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    Originally posted by wezwaz:

    Why are retirements going to drain the share market? Even in retirement you want your money invested in something other than cash. People don’t just go and cash their Super and park it at the bank.

    Explain why there will be a wave of selling.

    Wes.

    I suppose the theory is this:

    Not many people actually have enough invested to be able to live off of the dividends…remembering that dividends are a tad more miserly in the US.

    So lots of folks will need to cash in chunks of shares to fund the shortfall in living expenses.

    The outlaws are in the process of doing this right now…and they ain’t poor by any stretch!

    As the boomers retire a bit of selling momentum may build up, causing others to cash in on the back of negative sentiment.

    That’s the scenario. Whether it happens like that….??????????

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    “We are what we think”

    Indeed. Several things came to mind about your thoughts before I slapped myself for being judgemental.

    My friend, I know each step of the ladder enough to know that we all choose the rung we want to sit on, it is not “the others” who make us stay where we are, it is us.

    I know so many people who for reasons that are either psychological, intellectual or circumstantial, who for this statement is not true.

    I can only suggest that you get out and introduce yourself to some folk and listen to their story.

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    Yes, two in Somerset and one in Horsham (West Sussex)…looking for something around basingstoke, but waiting for reality to return.

    Am heading over myself soon…maybe to stay, dunno yet. Have a few contacts in the development side of things over there.

    I have a friend that went over two and a half years ago and made over a million AUD nett just doing reno’s and flogging them. Though his last one is proving hard to move now as the market comes off.

    I”d like to set myself up over there for the next run on property…It would be nice not to live like count dracula too (I work US hours)

    Cheers

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