Hi  all

Well, I have read with interest all the valid comments regarding options, in particular, Mark Rolton and Rick Ottons.

Here is my view.

We did the 21st C seminar, (some great content, shame it has become a big con sales department), and I was very interested in 2 people. Mentioned above. I thought I would investigate by asking questions of them, before putting pen to credit card paper. Thankfully I did.

Within 2 seconds of talking to Rick, my wife, (women are a much better judge of character than men – proven in business), said, this guy can not be trusted! Was she right. I was brushed off very quickly by Rick, before even getting to fully ask my first question. I put it down to the mass of people who had already asked their questions. I signed up!!!! (Mistake number 1).

2 months later, with the course date approaching, I had heard nothing. I started asking questions and responses were not happening. Finaly, I was told that there was a problem with my credit card, (probably good luck  the payment had not gone through- but there was no valid reason why), and that the offer tha was made by Rick at the presentation, was no longer available and the 2 for 1 offer had now gone up $1500.00 from the $2600, (I think it was), that we paid. Guess my response????? Go and put your course where it deserves to be and watch out if you even try to debit my card with any sort of fee.

Thus, one interest down and one left!

I did not get to talk to Mark, but my wife was confident that this presentation was a lot more trustworthy and was worth a look. (That just killed the character judging theory!)

I signed up and then the problems started. They quickly took my money and gave me nothing. It took weeks to get the home study pack and then to get some answers on attending a course date – well. There was a course in a few weeks time and I wanted to attend. The staff could not tell me where or what time, only that it was on the Gold Coast. I said I needed to book flights and accommodation, but still no answers. I finally got an attendance welcome email, 3 days before the event – Guess my answer.

There was another course 2 months later and once again, the response was slow, but I at least had 3 weeks notice.

The course was good – I did learn a few good concepts, but wow, is Mark a great salesman. The people rushing to sign up for $30k course was embarrassing. It proved how good a sales man Mark really is. Mark was adamant that you could not do well without having RP Data, UBD and Google Earth Pro. A must have.! Well I signed up – (mistake number 2). You needed to sign up today because the offer was not valid from tomorrow and the log in's would be processed the following week so you can all get started.

3 weeks later, I had heard nothing and had to remind them of this promise. The RP Data password arrived – fantastic. Living in Melbourne, Mark had stipluated, start in your suburb and work out from there. Work on the areas you know and when you find one that works, work that radius from the CBD around your city. Fantastic. I got started only to find that Massland's access to RP Data only covers 7% of metropolitan Melbourne! How can you apply Mark's so called great system to only 7%? I asked the question, only to be told by one of the clearly incompetent support staff that these ae the only areas Mark belives are viable in Melbourne. Do they think I am stupid? How is Melbourne different to Brisbane and Sydney where they have had so much success. Dig a bit more. O'hh, it costs more for them to have greater RP Data coverage in Melbourne, so sorry Melbournians. You are not worth it!

I have since asked for my subscription to be stopped ( I have still not received Google Earth), and I may lodge a complaint to ASIC and Fair Trading. My requestes have been received by Massland, but I get no responses. I have found seveal other "students" who have had similar problems, so you can make up your own mind.

One last thing. I spoke with one person who tried to take a personal cheque to Rick's registered business adreess. It was a set of post office boxs and when he called them, they were insistant that he sould just post it. He ripped it up and cancelled his course and later found out that another course he paid for (another provider) could not be prosecuted, since the business was registered in Vanuatu. MMMMMMM

Sorry for the long posting, but do your homework. As one person said, save time by trying to learn from other peoples mistakes. Mark has some very good information, but do not get conned. There maybe a better way, we just have to find it and that will take time. A lot of time.

Good luck.