Surely we can get "an intimate knowledge of how each lender calculates our servicing capacity" without having to go to a broker. Just a case of giving lenders (that we're considering going with) the relevent figures ie: incomings, outgoings, existing debt.
You're absolutely right. But do you have the time and patience to do all this.? A broker should be ble to tell you this over a range of lenders regardless of how 'investor oriented' if you gave them the figures. It is surprising sometimes the variation between a range of lenders, but generally you are simply assessed on surplus income above liabilities after taking all income into acccont, and a 'nominated' amount for yourslef/spouse/children etc. THis is where theere is some variation, and also with how much rental assessment is counted (%) and how credit card limits and other current loan/mortgage repayments are calculated. Some lenders use the actual repayment figure, some view it as if you have the deals with them already, others are a bit different again. All the best with your 'jouney'.
Hi Longroad. Can't help with stats, but was talking about it with family that live there this week, and concensus was 'nothing much has happenede there price wisw for a few years…' That said, they have been affected by drought, and water restrictions, but I feel property is undervalued compared to other similar siza regional centres, and in the pricepoint you mention, as long as you avoided any suss areas I would think it hard to go wrong. WOudl certainly appear room for growth. Why not do some more research and let us know. All the best.
It is funny i hear all day long about the CBA. They want to help you when they feel there is something in the deal for them and then drop you like a stone when you need them most. .
It is – and yet as a lender they are obsessed with putting the highest pressure on staff out of any major bank that I am aware of to 'cross sell' and 'meet quotas' and 'make budget' etc etc – No wonder they have such a high staff turnover too!
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It's not – you are being ripped off on this one , unless the tradesman used gold fittings. Aas far as getting involved in any other comments I'll pass however. One observation though – I think using an agent that has or has access to a 'handyman' is good, as other than stuff requiring a license it can save you heaps.
Hi. I was going to say that I would be surprised if you could get a mortgage for one of these, (same with the 'over 55' style 'homes' in parks-lenders are not interested as essentailly there is no real security to lend against) but it has already been covered nicely. If you had cash or funds accessed via equity in another property (using a line of credit or similar) and wanted to take some brave pills and purchase outright, that would be your only way I think.
Hi Passi. One of the good things with the ING deal (make sure you double check) is that on the fixed loans you can make up to 10k per annum extra repayments wihtout penalty. Not sure with these others, but while it would not worry me on an IP, I don't think I would like 5 years of fixed interest loan on an owner occupied at min repayments only. Never seen much point in an offset bank acount (especially if you are paying extra via the interest rate) with your first owner occupied home, unless you either plan on making it an investment property down the track, or will expect to have a lot of money sitting around unused – in which case redrawing from the loan works fine – as long as it is 'free'. I can certainly appreciate in the current economic climate, when shopping for a fixed rate, wanting a good one. THe loans you mention will save you over a grand a year on a 300K property in interest – but as mentioned, make sure they are flexible enough for you.
Actually…………………..I would swear some of my posts have 'changed forum topics' too, ie- I posted in one topic, and they have gone only to reappear under another one. Could be senility however……
Hi Nigel, and welcome to the forum. That knocks the wind out of your sails when that happens thats for sure. Sitting down with a capable finance broker may unearth a lender that assesses you slightly differently – enough to make a difference. Ask around where you are locally and see if anyone is recommended to you by other professionals. If you are still out marginally on your actual income, a lo doc loan (or no doc) which some lenders even do for PAYG (ie non abn holders) up to 70% lvr may be suitable as long as you can declare that you will have sufficient income through whatever means in the coming financial year to meet your obligations – strangely enough that would still likely be a better rate than your LOC. There are other options too if these are not suitable. All the best.
Some good points – especially about using a variety of lenders to maximise borrowing/servicing capacity. Interesingly even the 'major banks' are stuggling to differentiate their products from each other in order to try and increas their loan business – challenge being most are identical style loan products. If you are lo doc that narrows the field a bit, but other than that the 'world is your oyster'. Find somone who treats you with a bit of digntiy and respect and more than one choice, rather than trying to sell you are loan product that suits them. If you have a min 20% deposit, you may be better looking at one of the bigger banks, under a 'pro pack' arrangment, but as there are so many loans and lenders – if you are not in a hurry perhaps keeping your eyse out for 'specials' such as no app fees, or special fixed interest rates may be the go. Personally I would hold ANZ or St.g in higher esteem than CBA or NAB – westpac? There are some excellent smaller bank products too – often a lot cheaper rate wise – such as regional specific banks, and of course Citibank and ING offer good rates and packages.Non banks I have a soft spot for Rams, (high loan exit fees for first 2 or 3 years, although I'm assuming you would not be refinancing again)and they have some great lodoc/no doc packages. There are some good 'on line' loans around for the bold too. As far as brokers go I can appreciate your comments, but a non affiliated broker (such as mortgage choice – or someone that is not primarily trying to flog you there 'own' rebranded type loans) or a broker that actually uses proper software using your criteria should be a good starting point – particularly with your needs – you may have dealt in past with one of the many brokers who come form 'ex bank or accountant' back grounds, that scatch their date and say 'yep, I;ll put you with Liberty, the'yre the best (burp grunt etc) for you if the Commonwealth Bank says no'. All the best with your search and growing portfolio.
NSW is a sow of a place to buy property (compared to our other states IMHO) unless you have your finance pre approved, and are 'ready to go' with inspections etc. Most people get their inspections done in the cooling of period after signing the contracts – which of course you can be gazumped anytime until contracts have exchanged. If you are not happy with the reports, and pull out, you will forfeit your deposit too unless you go about it the right way – many get the inspections done prior ti signing, but then risk doing that dough if someone offers higher meanwhile. It is your perogative on whether to waive the colling off period or not – don't get bullied. I'm no expert here though, so I would suggest discussing with your NSW solicitor, whom I would be iinclined to use more than a conveyencor in this type of situation. all the best.
Rich mum (i like it ) it seems many lenders now have annual or monthly fees, whereas once the big thing was for 'no fees' . Generally it comes under the guise of so-called 'pro-packs', which essentially means you pay an annual fee, in exchange for a reduced or discounted interest rate. You would really need to do the sums to see which loan style and from which lender is more suitable for you. Loan size will make a difference (ie the savings of a 0.5 % interest discount on $100k loan is $500 p.a – but four times that on a $400k loan, and both would have the same fee if you get my drift. The other thing to watch out for is whether or not there are higher exit fees in exchange for a lower rate. Not any drama at all if hanging onto the property for 3 or more years, but if planning on selling you could be up for a fair early payout charge, negasting any interest savings meanwhile. Not sure about the charges you mention though – seems a bit excessive. Also bear inmind, you don't need to use the same lender next time, and it if you are plannign to expand your property portfolio, it is much better where you can to keep your properties seperate, (with the same lender or not) rather than all bundled in together as security on the one loan/portfolio.( All the best.
The joys of being in business for yourself……..with deductions you're damned if you do/damned if you dont. I would sugges at this point contactign a good local broker, laying your cards on the table, (including who you have applied with previosly), explain everything, and let them do some chasing for you. I'm sure you will get close – and it will save you added stress. All the best.
The standard proceedure is that the loan goes through as a variable loan, and once drawn down, the client then gets it locked in as a fixed loan. Standard proceedure , and it costs you nothing to do when done in the first 30 days. The loan writer MUST contact the borrower (in this case, your broker should have done this) This should have been explained to you, and Rams is not the only lender who does this. If you choose to ignore the call from your broker (or Rams Loan Manager) there is no one to 'force you' to fix your loan. If you can confirm your broker did not contact you, perhaps they may be the fee for you to fix your loans? All the best
Hi. Some lenders structure the loan in a way that keeps LMI to a mininum which always helps. However there is a big jump in LMi premiums once you hit the magic 300k price point. So If you other property was slightly under or only slighlty over the 300k that may be part explanation for you.
Hi Marc. I think this has something to do with the order they are posted (ie if you are editing a post that you were not happy with and someone else adds to the forum topic you were in) or if someone else posts at a similar time. Has happened to me a few times too……..so you are not going senile or anything……
Each to their own, but I must admit to being absolutely blown away by some of the interest rate negativity. The media has a lot to answer for thats for sure. Seriously, rates now are around what they were 5 years or so ago, and back then people were still buying houses for PPOR and for investment. In fact, most are now enjoying the benefits of having done so. Things need to be put in perspective – regardless of the interest rates, over extending your self is asking for it – but from an investment perspective, it depends on your attitude to risk, your buying ability. and understanding that 'nothing ventured – nothing gained….' I could add more, but will leave it at that for now……
Sounds like a plan…….in your loan application, depending on the lender, you will find when you list the liability of each card, it will ask if the facility is to remain after the homeloan is drawn down. If you show as no, and that some of the funds will be used to pay out/consolidate these debts and cancel the cards you should be ok, and they will not be counted when your servicability is involved. The lender may be more comfortable, or even stipulate it as a condition that they control this part of the funds on your behalf, to actually pay the cards out. A good lender or broker should ve able to walk you through that – which of course will exclude your average Bank manager or junior bank lending plebe. All the best with your new plans.
You will probably find a 'Line of credit' type loan for this, is the most sutiable, as many lenders allow interest to be capitalised up to the credit limit before requiring any payments at all, and then interest only. However some don't so check. Obviously if you are funding the property this way initially this will be no good, as you will have no funds 'left in' the loan facility unless you have it against another property or have put in a large deposit. However without more details I am speculating other than suggesting the loan type.. All the best.