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    Great Feedback there HGwells – good to know of a real example like that.

    I toyed with the idea a year or two ago, but they are great at pricing them and structuring the rent so that it just does not add up in my calculations, especially as you have no say really while the properties are leased, and neg- meanwhile. 
    That said, when they had units in Darwin with free stamp duty a year or two ago, might have been a good buy as far as long term growth!

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    Good question. 10+ years is a long time, and true, at best what rates will be like then is only an educated guess. Fixed interest loans work a little bit differently, but even so, many lenders will not offer one for more than 5 years.
    One rough guide used to be to compare the rates for 2,3 and 5 year fixed rate loans, which gave a bit of an idea what 'the experts' were thinking. Fixed rates from many lenders have snuck up a bit of late, and you can bet another rate rise or two , or in the casr of some lenders if they get a whiff of a rate rise, the fixed rates will go up again. …….and those rates you qouted will no longer apply of course, unless you signed up for one and had it settle first – which is not a bad idea (but not for 10 years!)

    As a sidepoint, I wonder how many people would want a fixed loan for that term? If they sold their house, the lender will get a huge early penalty payment, that will more than make up for the fact that th money may have been able to be 'sold' for more meanwhile.

    I guess if you look at the Interest rates in NZ, they are what Steve is talking of now, which is more than possible, and maybe quite likely – who knows? Cheers.
     

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    pjk1966 wrote:
    a loan for an investment property is different to your home loan becuase lending institutions allow you to have a loan where you only make repayments for the interest charged each month. Where as your home loan, I'm sure you understand, you are required to make princilpe AND interest repayments each month.

    Sorry to disagree with that, but there is no problem paying interest only on a PPOR home loan – whether doing so on the whole loan or either as a loan split, or even a line of credit. Just as there is no problem doing P&I on an investment property if one so chooses…..all depends on what the borrower wants to achieve really.
    An option I have seen a few use (and is not a bad idea depending on an individuals plans etc) is to do an interest only loan on an owner occupied home, but actually pay P&I on it – thus giving a small breathing space if any emergencies or unforseen bills/costs may arise.
    The only reral differerence between an investment loan and a 'normal' (?) loan is that in generally (there are exceptions – with conditions) while you can borrow up to 100% (or more -yikes) for your PPOR loan, 95% is the usual for an IP.
    That said, in the current financial climate, having a minimum of 5% deposit (ideally 10%) if you cannot fund a 20% deposit is the way to go.
    And, welcome to the forum!

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    Hi Wishful – A no doubt traumatising time for the parents, and excellent (and natural) your partner and yourself would try and help. As mentioned though, not without possible issues. Still, I will stick to dealign just with your questions.
    A nice and simple method is to accesse some of the equity in your own home – for ease of doing so and common sense, I would suggest up to 80% LVR (loan to property value ratio – ) THus, that would make a figure of $128k on your current home loan/valuation – less the $107k you owe, leaving you around the $21,000 or so to 'play with'. You could then use this as the (or towards the) deposit on your parents property. Bear in mind, you will then be paying interest (and principal repayments too unless you split your loan, and set this part up as interest only)  on this , as well as you new loan. If you have no other money, this will probably cover a 10% deposit on the parents house, plus closing costs.
    SO the question is can you make this work with the rent, as opposed to the two loan repayments (your deposit, and the new house loan). ?
    As far as loan servicability, yes, the lender will indeed count your rental as income, usually up to 80% of it.
    Hopefully that gives you a bit of an idea as to how you may be able to discuss things further togehter. All the best.

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    If you are looking long term, and have been happy to fund the difference with the neg gearing, it makes sense to hang on to it – as you have obviously done the 'hard yards' and bought it in the first place. If you do hang onto it, and are looking long term, once you have finished reading this run out and find a good fixed interest loan for a few years!  All the best.  (PS. Make sure it is one you can pay a bit extra off too – some lenders still do not offer this flexibility, and who knows what you may need down the track)

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    Yes – I would rather slam Simons parts in a car door too – Seriously, commission only is bad enough for a 'legitimate' operation of finace/broking services, let alone a questionable sales operation that will still put pressure and quotas on you, who are putting up everything, while they risk nothing, and then spit you out and move onto someone else when you question things you will not be comforable with, or don't get the results they want. 

    Is the finance industry the one you want to be in or are already trained in, or is it just a position that sounded ok to you?

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    Use it wisely! 
    Just another point in addition to the above, if you buy a property outright for 'cash', which of course gives you some serious negotiating power, you can always borrow against this later, (up to 80% would be my max suggestion/preference) and as long as you only use the borrowings then for income generating/investment purposes you will still receive the tax deduction benefits you would have if you borrowed the 80% initiailly. Of course, it does depend on your plans, and what you intend to do property wise. If you don't have your own home, but want one, buy that for 'cash', or pay off your current loan (if you have one) outright, then borrow against your own home for purchasing additional investment property then……
    All the best.
    (Alternatively, give me some, and spend the rest!)  Cheers.

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    yeah, tempting as it is ego or privacy wise to go for the no sign option, it is much more effective to have one – even if it is only to help potential buyers locate the property. All the best with your sale.

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    A great example of win win Lisaa – thanks for sharing that with us, and a BIG congratulations. I'm sure this will go well for you in the future. Cheers

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    Yup – if you have to state an income, that is 'lo-doc', not no doc. There are indeed some true no-doc products that are not much (if any) more interest rate than a lo-doc, but you will need to be very careful applying for a no-doc loan IF you have previously applied for a Lo-doc and quoted an income figure.
    A 30% deposit will be a walk in the park, of course all depends what you want to achieve. Some people classify this as 'asset lending'. Regardless, you still need to be able to pay it back remember.
    All the best.

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    It certainly is a bit of a vicious circle – On a valuation requested by (and ordered by) a lender, the valuer essentially has to be able to show that the property is worth at least the sell price – this is done primarily based on comparitive sales figures. So……..if someone was to buy a house that supposedly was worth say $400k (it may have even had an 'independant valuation' done prior to confirm this) but the vendor was desperate, and sold it for $350k privately, if the house you were looking at is identical, but perhaps not quite as nice (say 'value' of $375k 'in theory') the valuer would see the other house as only being 'worth' $350k, because that is all it sold for, meaning your new '$375k house' will not be worth that much if comparing with the sold one. It can be a bit dissapointing sometimes, but in a down market, or where some houses have been bought well or sold cheaper, this unfortunately can often be the result. Generally 3 or 4 comoparitive sales are what is used, to 'even things out a bit'. Clear as mud? Cheers.

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    Unfortunately a lot of people simply never get around to filling out warranty paperwork. That said, with things like some brand air con and HWS, if they have a 5 year warranty (anything less is irrelevant to you I guess- and I don't know of any ovens with 5yr wtys) as long as you can prove the purchase date and place you should be OK with receiving warranty service still. Most service agents are flexible, (I used to be) but by all means if you can get the info grab it (especially the HWS)
    Cheers.

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    There have been quite a few posts on Margaret Lomas , including a recent one on her company/buisness 'Destiny Financial Solutions'. Do a search and you will find some more info – a lot of varied opinions of course as you get, but certainly advocates property (moreso CF+) as a way to successfully having 'growth assets & building wealth.
    Her books and stategies do indeed present well.

    All the best.

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    Isn't he married to Demi Moore? 

    Sorry – that was unhelpful, but I could'nt resist!
    I'm sure someone will let you know shortly though.
    Cheers.

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    HI. Yes, I believe none at all. If you have an abn and can show you are running the whole portfolio as a business it may be different. Even on that though the ATO website has incidents of cases where people have 'tried and lost'.  You can probably appreciate / understand, that if you were claiming gst on expenses, you would also be paying it on income too.
    Cheers.

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    Hi Mark.  At the moment, unless you have any complexities with your requirements, such as needing lo-doc, or have no deposit, short unemployment etc, you will find a broker will likely steer you to one of the major banks at this time anyway…..the one you are with may even be that one!  So, if you do have a good working relationship with your current bank, why not go direct or at least find out what they can offer you first. There are plenty of options though – and a few minutes on the internet will allow you to see any 'current specials' offered by lenders at this time.
    All the best.

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    We generally allow pets in our propertys – as we too have a dog and have had issues renting in the past. We specify that we dont want them inside (dogs) , and that no Jack russels and yap yap dogs purely as a courtesy for the neighbors – but other than that I think you are more likely to get an 'average/normal' type tennant, either as a family or older single/couple that will hopefully be more inclined to really feel 'at home'.
    Just my thoughts…..*** While I think of it, we once rented a place ourselves, and simply made the suggestion we would be happy to pay an additional bond. We did, with the only conditions being we had to get the yard and house sprayed etc after vacating (even though our boy is an outside dog only) . No drama at all – and the next guy put up a nice fence for our dog to keep him in as a result of the good 'feedback' from the last property manager.  (Also because we are nice and he was frightened of the dog perhaps? )

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    Hi Dean. Find a nice person like me, and let me stay over there with my family rent free for a month or two, and then I will be in a much better position to give you my opinion…….Not quite the response you were after I guess  eh? All the best with whatever you decide. Cheers 

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    Nope. Prices are not really much less in Taswegia now than the 'mainland'. Growth is 'steady' – what else do you need I reckon. I think you will find some of the problem is not much sales data has really been available for Tassie, making it hard to know what really is going on over there.  .A lot of the guys like rp data (could have changed since I last looked) don't do tassie post codes I notice. It was great when API magazine started including Tassie in the house and unit price date every few months.Last months had one.  One of the few places you can get the info. The REIT has a bit of guff 'for sale' but it is very generalised.
    All the best.
    Cheers

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    Hi Seank. Go for that number 3!. As far as borrowing power goes, you would need to divulge your current loan reapymant amounts for the two loans, how many dependants you have, and any liabilities such as credit cards and personal loans-hardly stuff you want to do on a public forum. I would be more than happy to give you an idea, but you will find most lenders have a calculator on their website that you can have a bit of a play with, or even there is one here under the 'how much can I borrow' http://www.mfaa.com.au/calculator.asp?menuid=426 that will save you airing your laundry on the forum. Hey, all the best. Cheers

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