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    GOd of money has said it all………..can you imagine seeing a 'financial planner' or an 'insurance broker' of this calibre? Sorry, but this is terrifying from all angles……..No wonder the industry is in shambles………
    I wrote more, and just deleted it……..Would a 'financial planner',consider the remotest possibitlty that it would be a scam for someone to offer to lend 'up to millions' of dollars, with no security, at less interest rates than the bank fixed rates? SO what finance and insurance products do you recommend clients Darren?  FIncorp? Timberland?

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    Welcome to the forum sting1
    Tassie prices in many cases are up with the mainland now – but these sorts of areas do offer serious 'bank for you buck'. Good thing about Tassie, is rather than prices going in fits and starts – big surges then nothing, the majority of reasonable property goes up a few % each year surely but steadily. SOunds good eh? TO get water views, near to a beautiful capital city, at that price, with a long term view with th option to move in later………… sounds good. May I suggest though grab a cheap plane ticket and get a street map and go and have a sniff around for a weekend and get the feel for the area. Most agents will be upfront with you when it comes down to 'less desirable areas' too (especially if they think they will sell you something)  Bear in mind there are no 'expert forecasts' though – only educated guesses at best. Most agents told us to avoid the suburb / area of Shorewell PArk, , in Burnie on the North coast three years ago. The stuff we bougth in the other suburbs has gone up 40% – SHorewell Park has almost doubled. Please bear in mind too though, that if you are thinking of living there down the track you may want to look at a litttle more than just the figures too! Go for it – All the best.

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    Hi Cashwalton,

    Nothing like starting off serious! I think it would be a good idea initially to liase with a few agents in the WOllongong area (do you get on ok with who you bought off origianlly!?) and see if they can give you soem 'hardcore' figures on what similar finished products ot exisitng similar ones hae recently sold for (not just heresay or "i reckon' type prices) Also check out allhomes.com.au under research for recent sales figures too nearby. THis will give you a good idea as to whether this project may be worth pursuing before you put any serious money into it. Regardless, all the best!

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    Hi Natasha,

    just a quick FYI, you will likely find there may be some restriciton on specific loan product types for SMSF lending, depending on the bank, and likely be additional costs also – such as legal costs etc charged by the lender to various docs from your fund 'perused' by their legal area. LVR's are also not as  high, but of course it all depneds what you have in mind. Naturally this means a quick settlement is not always possible unless you have everything in order first. All the best.

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    Good question.

    FYi, I have not processed/sold/ set up a fixed rate home loan in the last 6 mths – whether it be new to bank customers, exisitng cutomers, or for brokers/introducers that refer business.  I did think it was amusing a few months back when fixed rates were in the mid to low 5's %, and all the 'ex-spurts' were going to fix their loan as soon as the rates got lower……….That would have been the time to do it – but very few did. Byt the time a lot of people realised they were not going to get any lower, fixed rates were already 100 + points higher (and more now of course) than a discounted variable rate loan!
    Until rates get back up around the 8% I think it will stay a varaible rate market – and if you think about it youll work out why.

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    Hi Morgan,

    The short explanation (and panel / indepnedant valuers use this too…) is 1) Comparable sales  2) Value added improvements.
    You sound like you have no2 coverd, but realistically, if a similar place to yours in the area sold for $250k last week (unless it can be proved it was not an 'arms length transaction') it is going to be a brave person that suggests yours is worth much more. Obviously outlook and land size has a bearing in the matter, but the reverse is true – if something similar not to far away sold for $350k your e on a winner. I have seen this happen both ways – some are winners, (and grinners) others not. What someone is asking for a place, is irrelevant too – only what it has sold for.
    If you have evidence otherwise, I would think your lender would (they will be!) be more than happy to look at it.
    All the best hey.

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    Hi Nat,

    You can – but if you have personal debt, numerous CRA enquireis, and a minimal savings & assets for get about it.
    Banks you are looking at the NAB and its subsiduries, or else some credit unions (although not a popular option for many still it seems) to get 95% on res property.
    Some may feel you can get 95% anywhere, but quite simply it is not so. ….remembering virtually every mortgage in Australia at the moment is done wiht one of the 'big 4' banks or St.George.
    I would think if you showed the 5% deposit and (tangible) assets of $100-150k or so as it appears you will have you will acquire thr LVR you mention.
    All the best with the sale and your investing journey!
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    Hi Macnatt,

    Not a bad idea – most lenders will definately look at that and take it into account. Remember though, a bank normally will not charge you for their 'valuation' and that as far as a lender is concerned, any residential property is only worth what you just paid for it – sometimes less………………….The think many people shy away from is when an indepenadant or panel valuer wants $350 or so to do a val for you, they choose just to not bother – as of course the banks'valuation' is 'free' – being for their own purposes only, not yours.
    All the best

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    Welcome to the forum KyleT….but Docklands? Prcie Not negotiable? Strongly recommended? Do yourself a big favour and do not let this guy back into your home again.  How much commission is he getting to flog slow moving property I wonder?
    Now……
    Keep up the research. 1 bedders are not in short supply in Docklands, so no rush there that's for sure!
    Bear in mind, if you are a bit nervous, there are plenty of quite good opportunities at the moment that you could get into for a lot less money – although not if you have your mind set on the big city/ies.

    All the best

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    Definately not – congratulations & enjoy your own little piece of our wonderful country.
    For that price, if you are living in a reasonable area that you are happy to be in – you have indeed done the right thing both short and long term. Enjoy the low variable rates for now too.

    All the best!
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    Another quality contribution……….

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    Hi Sandy,
    Great news you are on the upward run – and great you have that income now.
    May not be what you want to hear, but if you are 'single', and now in a position to have a bit of surplus income, see what sort of inroads you can make on your c/card debt for the next 6-9 mths. You may surprise yourself. You will need a deposit to buy, however if ytou can demonstrate how much of your debt you have been able to clear up in that tim,e it certainly will assit in demonstrating to anyone your income and ability to pay debt down. You sound positive (and so you should) and trust me, the majority of palces are not going to boom in the next 6-12 mths, and the time will really fly.
    Keep us posted, and all the best.

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    Interesting – I restructured a deal for a guy last year that was on very high income (that would be over $100k) that they had negatively geared by levereging his owner occupied home so badly that he could barely even 'service his loans' on paper. And the 'interesting thing' was as I was giving him a bit of 'general investing info strategy type stuff' in the initial discussions we had, he wanted to ring up Custodian to check everything with them – and wanted me to 'speak with them as they are really switched on'.  Tactfully declined of course, but in the end all I could do was help him with thefinance for the custodian property package, which at least saved him a few bucks on application fees (none compared to $1100) and .2% interest…….definately worth ignoring the 'dont talk to anyone else about your loan' instructions he had been issued with. …..But back to the story – on a package (all up around $650k for the H&L – very neg geared) he borrowed against his exsiting owner occupied place $100% + costs  + a $35k 'commission' for them. That was $35k. At least it was disclosed I suppose…….. Scary stuff.

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    As per the above again  – the fact of that matter is valuations or 'estimated market values' are based literally on what land or a property sold for – in your case, it was the contracted price less the $10k (or whatever that amount was'.  Bank panel valuers or inspections people (and I imagine all valuers at present) have specifice instructions from the lenders to make sure contracts do not have clauses like this – and if they do the full contract is required for perusal, not just the front page, and the 'value' takes any cashbacks into account.  SOme builders/developers that cant flog stock (I believe this was a big thing at a 'golf course property development' down Melbourne way) have been known to offer 'cash backs' of up to $50k!!! – which artificially inflates property values totally. Sorry for the news – but that is how it goes.
    All the best with the build though of course!

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    duckster wrote:
    Thanks for that. I don't have a steady two year income stream yet had to sell most of my shares to avoid the market collapse. Also the private business I am running has not made huge income yet ,but that's cause I am running it part time as well as being house dad.

    My two kids start school next year !
    Who knows might be able to spend time trying to get a JOB or trading in options.

    Chin up Duckster – there are people WITH jobs getting knocked back for loans at the moment that would have been no brainers 12 mths ago. Enjoy the little tykes while they are young. And good on you for selling out the shares before they dropped too much. I lost what must be a 10% deposit on a $250k house worth of shares with the market and many companies going bum up on the asx – which was money I had saved for years. Next year will be different (better) (for everyone that is not a first home buyer anyway) so keep chipping away and enjoy yourself while you are at it!

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    I'm sure the rest of us (sigh) will follow in some sort of way. But a piddling 10 points? It's all a ploy to take attention away from the fact that fixed rates have soared way up over the last 2 or 3 weeks with lenders – that you generally never hear much about in the media – try up to 80 points in 3 weeks on 3 yr rates with some!!!!!!

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    Thanks for sharing that – Didnt go, but I must admit to thinking after the 'emotional side' to reading RDPD that there was nothing even in that of any tangible fibre – other than generalisations.
    Must admit I would like to hear Peter Spann sometime though – as at least he sounds both interesting and has the runs on the board.

    Must admit to only ever going to one 'seminar', and that was one too many. Could not work out why everyone seemed to be leaving straight after the first 'presenter' on the program – did not think it was quite that bad – until I realised they were the first 'lucky 200' attendees to rush out for the special seminar home education course reduced from $10,000, down to $5000, but 50% off for them today only….' Sigh,

    Sounds like you needed the 'cone of silence' rather than  the cone of 'learning' eh? 

    All the best with your investing journey anyway…….

    Cheers

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    newbi2 wrote:
    I would have also thought that  an unconditional loan is based on the circumstances on the loan application. I would imagine that you will find a clause stating if circumstances change then the bank reserves the right to "rethink".
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    Spot on newbi2 – although they would have to be aware of this. If it happened shortly before settlement there is unlikley to be any drama, but if it happened while the loan was in the process of going unconditional or had just done so, it is a different story. THere are some interesting clauses in the lending dcouments and or conditions that mention this.
    THen again, if you have work and income similar/same/more I could not see it being any issue at all.
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    Hi Craiganddelly
    Unless it was your existing bank you are applying with, you will likely find they will want to see genuine savings. Unless your gift is around the 20% deposit  of course.
    Even if you dont have the full 5 or 10 % deposit in genuine savings, it is expected that you would have to have some sort of savings history/record otherwise how could you pay off a loan? You are in with a better chance of course if you have minimal savings but no liabilities such as personal loans etc. Personal debt with no genuine savings you may as well forget about applying. Hope that answers your question.
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    HI Jaffa,

    Sounds like the agent is being contankerous then – assuming that is what the vendor has told them to do/say.
    You could always use a due dillignece type clause instead of the 'finance clause' however if they want unconditionla, I imagine that they will treat that the same as a finace clause. I seriously would have thought, if the vendor accpeted your offer (ie a firm price) and it was on the contract, with a 'subject clause' as long as it was over and done before when the auction would have taken place (ie you have the finance approved and ready to go unconditional) it sould be a 'win win' situation. Something does'nt quite sound right there to me. Keep us posted, and all the best mate.

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