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    Flyingrally wrote:

    http://www.sro.vic.gov.au/sro/SROnav.nsf/v/D9C90CE2DFBAA2FACA2576AC0005E888/$file/DA-026.pdf

    will give you a better explanation.
     
    From what I can see though if the properties are advertised seperately and the purchase of one is not dependant on the other you will be fine.

    Stamp duty savings are significant. 5 x $130000 properties seperatly is something like 14k total, one 650000 property 27k (from memory, please don't quote me :) )

    It certainly looks like your link explains it as you mention.  Great stuff and thanks for digging it up

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    Terryw wrote:
    Its called aggregated stamp duty. see s24 of the Duties Act (Vic)
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/da200093/s24.html

    You may need to stagger the purchases over 12 months to avoid aggregation.

    Hmmm…..I found and noticed that little bit about the 12 months too Terry.  Is it actually referring to total properties, not necassarily adjoining like I first posted?

    Can't stagger purchases as they are being sold at auction on the same day & only certain terms available to me.
    Since the value will not be very large (in my case) due to being very cheap commission houses (less than 100K), I'll just be going with the flow – but this 12 month thing would affect investors buying a few large value properties per year, wouldn't it.

    I wonder how the revenue office decides on the duties payable if purchased spaced say every 3 months?
     And over which 12 months – Calendar, Financial or rolling?

    Could they charge you retrospectively? 
    Coz to be honest, I am thinking of purchasing a few more of these type of cheaper properties down the track.

    [edit] Actually…….. I've just remembered we've already done two purchases 3 months apart before (3 years ago) and we didn't get stung with this – maybe it's only if they notice (or is actually adjoining)?

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    JamesSampson wrote:
    wow banks are asking for annual fees on top of the interest…didnt know that was happening.

    Not sure of the above case, but it's usually a fee for a product that actually gives you a lower interest rate.
     

    example:
    We get 0.6% off each of our loans for a fee.  The savings are much more than the fee, especially if applied across a few loans.

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    Jamie M wrote:

    Sounds fine – why not use the LOC for a 20% deposit? That way you can avoid paying lenders mortgage insurance. In most cases, I have no probs with paying lenders mortgage insurance to purchase a property, but if you've got a $250k line of credit then it might be worthwhile chipping in the additional 10% for the deposit.

    Jamie

    I'm actually using the LOC for the full amount (100%), not just the 10% deposit – so no LMI at that stage as it would be fully financed via the LOC with no mortgage at settlement.

    Was intending to then get refinanced with a standard IP loan later down the track, after I have lease ageements in hand (probably a few months or so).   I thought it would be harder to refinance without a lease and I can't get a lease until well after settlement, due to reno's needed.  I would then put the 80% back into the LOC after refinanced to use on the next purchase.

    In fact, depending on the bank valuation, I suppose it may be possible to put the full amount back into the LOC due to purchasing underpriced in the first place?  Is that possible?

    Hope that explains more completely.

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    littleaussie wrote:
    Hi Jacquie,
    We have properties in Maryborough and Maldon.  ( Maldon is not this cheap anymore)
    None of our properties are x-commission but they are old houses.  Both of these towns have seen considerable price rises over the last 2 – 3 years, but Maryborough in particular is still cheap in comparison to other towns.
    Ex. One of the houses was purchased in Feb 2007 for 127,000. In Sep 2008 it was valued by the Bendigo Bank at $150,000. It is rented at $200 p/w.
    Our most expensive property was 145,000. Which will be up for rent soon for $220 ( we have been living in this one)
    As for tenants, my fist tenant was a disaster. She nearly destroyed the house and it did cost a lot to repair, both in time and money. I put the property with a different agent and have had wonderful tenants ever since.
    If you are considering purchasing investment properties here, do your best to avoid the commission areas as they are rough and tenants won't stay there long.
    Renovating is a good strategy here.

    Hi littleaussie,

    I am looking at Maryborough at the moment.  Do you mind letting me know who your current agent is or perhaps your previous one was so we can try to avoid the same problem?  Private message is fine if you don't want to say in public.

    Cheers……..TV

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