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    Most people will have a PPOR Loan and one or more investment loans. PPOR loan is not tax deductible and IP loan/s are SO you want to keep the PPOR Loan as low as possible (without paying down the principle in case you are going to convert it to an IP in the future) and you want to keep the IP loan/s as high as possible.

    Most lenders provide free upfront valuations so you should be paying anything. 

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    Is there a reason why you are with ANZ? Did you previously pay LMI with them?

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    Yes but thats a medi product so not applicable to us mere mortals. 

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    You do not need to cross securitise your properties in order to access equity. You just need to set them up as separate. It is more likely that the lender will recommend that you cross securitise your properties (in order to make it harder for you to leave the bank) but tell him/her that you want the properties to be standalone.

    Is there a reason you are going 90% because you enough equity to go less. 

    Also if you are going into LMI aim for 88% rather than 90%.

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    2 ways of borrowing 105%.

    One way is to access the 25% equity of your current property (assuming you have that equity) and 80% of the new purchase or say 10% equity against your current property and 95% against the new property. You just need to make sure the loans are seperate in this scenario.

    Second way is to go with the Adelaide Bank product which comes with a $20,000 credit card that can be used to pay for the stamp duty. You need to have quite a decent income for this option.

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    Get your broker to order some upfront valuations (different valuers and different ypes of valuations – i.e. kerbside, full valuation and modelled estimates). You may access the equity you need and not need to go to 90% and pay LMI.

    Re the equity releases – how you actually do it will somewhat depend on the lender (and their limitations). I would generally go for an standard product with a linked offset and I would do this for each loan account or do it as a redraw as some lenders like ING , Citibank, etc have restrictions in the number of offset each client can have or they charge you for additional offsets (like ANZ).  Lenders like Westpac have unlimited offsets. Most lenders charge a premium for the LOC product and some dont (like Macquarie) so if you were with Macquarie I would set it up as a LOC and then convert it once you have access the funds. 

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    You have some misconceptions which may stop you from doing what you want to do so best to have a decent conversation with your banker or broker.

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    Dont change it when you convert it – change it now and dont reduce the principle any further. Create the offset and park your principle payments in there.

    Different lenders will lend different amounts – $435k still seems very low so I think it hasnt been structured correctly to utilise a higher borrowing capacity. 

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    Is it a new dwelling and did you claim the FHOG?

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    If its NAB then you shouldnt have any dramas switching to an IO. 

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    Hi Mate,

    I would consider changing your PPOR loan from principle and interest to interest only. There is a active thread about this:

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/help-needed/4349432

    If you are going to convert the townhouse into an IP then YOU DO NOT want to pay the loan down because you will reduce the amount you can negatively gear.

    Is there a reason why you are limiting yourself to a smaller budget because you can definitely borrow a higher amount?

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    …..and don't forget to set up the offset.

    Which bank is it?

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    If you are going to convert the current PPOR to an IP then you definitely want to call the bank tomorrow and convert to IO and set up the offset. Also consider upfront valuations to see if you can avoid LMI for the time being. 

    And no to your last comment – you do not need to pay a lump sum. After the IO period (aim for maximum period) you will need to again extend if possible.

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    Can't comment on how long you should hold the property but I like to keep property and sell only when I need to money for a better project/opportunity. This is because entry and exit costs associated with property here is quite high. 

    Going interest only allows you to have the money liquid in case you get a crappy valuation and cannot access the equity. So even if you are not going to sell it – its still a good strategy to go IO.

    Are you not going to convert the unit to an investment property and upgrade within the next 1 or so years?

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    LMI is not a bad thing depending a a number of things (loan size, risk tolerance, etc). For me personally, its the cost of doing business. 

    I would personally convert all loans to interest only and create a "superman" offset account against the PPOR loan. Have all income traffic (i.e. salary, rent, bonus, etc) going into this account since it is not tax deductible. So you want to keep this as low as possible and the IPs as high as possible.

    I would also consider upfront valuations to see how much equity I can tap into – it is most likely that different lenders/valuers will value your property differently. 

    Lastly, if you are going to go LMI – aim for a 88% LVR as LMI skews at point 88% and 90%. so definitely aim for 88%.

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    Ok so let's say you pay your loan down and becomes zero. When you go to convert the property into an IP and you want to negative gear – then the amount that you can negative gear is $0. Whereas if you kept the loan as interest only as did not pay the loan down then you can obivously claim the higher amount when you convert the property to an IP.

    Instead of paying the principle down – save the money in the offset. In fact have all your salary go into this account as the bank calculates interest on a daily basis so you want as much of your money physically in the offset account as possible.

    The only negative with this strategy is that if you are not disciplined with your funds then you will spend the principle that you have saved in the offset – since the offset is a savings account (i.e can be accessed anytime). 

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    Easy.

    Don't pay Principle and Interest – instead go for interest only and accumulate savings + principle repayments in the offset. Keep the principle of the loan as high as possible. Then after a period of time you can convert the unit into an IP, claim the maximum principle amount and use the funds you have accumulated in the offset to upgrade your PPOR.

    Also don't forget that you may be able to do an equity draw against the IP to bump up the deposit of the PPOR purchase.

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    What's the actual question?

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    Not many lenders will accept 6 units in a single title. There are only 2 that will accept it. Your biggest issue with be valuation so you need to address this upfront as much as possible.

    Are each of the units fully self contained?

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    If the loan amount is under $1mil then regardless of LVR ME Bank will accept the COS and will not order a valuation. Quite a handy niche.

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