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Sydney's west is huge – which area specifically? Mount Druitt? Blacktown? Wenty? Parra?
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What is the your price range (purchase price) and which state are you looking to buy in?
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Interestingly, all of the these investors have specifically purchased units and I would say 9 out of 10 have been off the plan.
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Sit down with your broker or banker and crunch the numbers. In short, 'Pros' – you both have exceptional incomes so the sky is the limit in terms of what you can borrow. 'Cons' – you are deposit poor. Therefore the maximum you could purchase a house with a deposit of $30k (of this depending on which state you are buying in) would be somewhere around $325k-$330k.
There are a couple of strategies you can implement which can be determined once you have gone through each scenario and option. Based on the limited information above I would be ok with a high LVR loan for the IP. Basically the less deposit you use the better as you are young and sound like you have an aggressive IP strategy. Also since you are high income earners – you need you understand the importance of saving as may not hit the servicing wall but rather the deposit wall. LMI on the above scenario would cost you give or take $10k.
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Youtube is great for specific reno videos but always leave the complex work to the professionals. It may cost you more to incorrectly do it yourself and then try and pay someone to fix your work (this has happened to a 'friend' of mine).
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Whilst I don't think there is anything wrong with purchasing a property without seeing it – I do think its worth paying a couple of hundred dollars in airfares and a few hundred more in accommodation and inspecting the property. I did this twice (but didnt end of buying) but did make a weekend of it with my wife.
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I have a lot of Japanese (and other nationalities that happen to have worsening economies) investors purchasing in high end areas of Sydney. Does that have anything to do with the state of Japan? Not sure but a lot of them are saying we want to be earning aussie dollar (they may be referring to dollar's strength, stability or both)?
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Based on your initial post you are definitely cross securitised but you do have enough equity to unlink them. You can get your broker or banker to restructure them but you would be up for another set of LMI if the larger security was pushed into LMI territory but this is not the case so you should be fine.
Its best to set up standalone facilities for a lot of reasons but make sure that the equity you will use against the higher security is a standalone facility so the interest is not contaminated.
Some of the disadvantages of cross securitising your loan are;
1. If you are in LMI territory then the LMI calculated will be on the higher loan and LVR amount rather than the individual and lower LVR and loan amount.
2 If you sell one of the securities then the bank may reassess your financial position and if both of you are unemployed at the time of assessment then this may cause issues.
3. If you sell your property in order to use the funds elsewhere then the bank may ask you to deposit the proceeds into the loan.
4. If the valuation on one of the securities come back lower then you don't have the flexibility of moving that specific security to another bank.
5. Generally speaking you lose the flexibility to moving or negotiating with the bank as they have 'tangled' your properties.
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Is it better to accumulate properties within SMSF or outside? You need to ascertain a list of the benefits and put this against the restrictions/disadvantages. You have already noted a benefit but here are some more:
1. You can use your Super money as a Deposit instead existing cash (or lack of)
2. Tax benefits. The maximum rate you pay on the rental income is 15% and once you are in your pension stage then this is 0%.
3. CG benefits which you have already highlighted which is that you will not be taxed on the CG within the retirement stage.
Some of the restrictions or cons include:
1. Higher set up costs of approximately $2k-3k
2. Higher interest rate than 'normal' loans
3. You can renovate an SMSF property but cannot borrow funds to renovate it
4. SMSF entities are sophisticated investment vehicles so you need to ensure everything is done properly and by the book (such as the yearly audits) otherwise you will be whacked with penalties.
This is why I was saying that it works well at your age particularly if you have a buy and hold strategy as opposed to a buy and flip strategy.
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I would invest in APM or RP Data reports which will show you recent sales. This can help you do 2 things:
1. Help you determine a reasonable price based on recent sales in either the street or surrounding streets
2. Help you justify why you are putting a potentially low offer.
At the end of the day if the vendor wants to sell the property for $100k more than its worth then there is not much you can do.
Real Estate agents are professional negotiators – you cannot 'beat them' at neogitating but having some stats and information will help your confidence and case.
Most brokers and bankers can run these reports for you for free.
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Hi There,
It pays to sit down and explore these items in more detail but here are some general comments:
1. Re setting up a trust – there is 2 components accounting/tax and finance. You need to speak to an accountant about the pros and cons of not only a trust vs investing under an individual entity but also the difference between the trusts, i.e. Family, Unit Trust, etc. They need to go through the asset protection and income distribution details. Also get them to go through the cost structure with you.
From a finance perspective there is not too much to worry about if the trust is a unit or family trust however you will find quite harsh restrictions when it comes to a hybrid trusts.
2. If you have a buy and hold strategy SMSF is a great option and 41 is a good age. Having said that SMSF is different to traditional property purchases. They are fine but you just need to understand that they work and cost differently. Again have a good accountant and broker/banker explain not only the benefits but also the restrictions. Get a good and experienced one as you will pay for it later on.
Also note the max personal contributions you can make to the SMSF per year.
3. Diversify. I am a passionate property investor however even I don't put all my cash in property. You mentioned you have managed funds which is great but just be wary of putting everything in property.
Sorry for the long post and good luck.
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I have a lot of investors who have or are purchasing these types of homes. Many of them generally miss out because someone else sees the opportunity but ends up overpaying for the property. So you need to be very careful that you don't overpay because you are distracted by the 'potential to make money'.
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Different lenders have different policies. Some will take average of 2 years, some will take the lower amount and some take last year's figures only (such as ANZ). Also if you are going with the lenders that require the first 2 then you would need to explain why there has been such a large increase or decrease in figures as part of the laon submission.
If the profit is capital gains then you have no hope of using it as income unless you are a developer and you can show this over a number of years and you have a load of documentation from your accountant supporting this. The bank will say yes they made a profit for the last 2 years developing property but whats to say that they will not make a capital loss next year?
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You can change it to a IO and then change it back to an P&I. From a tax deductibility perspective try paying off the car loan as soon as you can even ahead of the PPOR as this is bad debt (going IO temporarily may help this without affecting your current cashflow).
If you are wanting to use existing equity to fund a new IP purchase I don't recommend a LOC but rather standard variable with a linked offset but just make sure its a separate a/c for tax purposes.
There is a few other ways to increase servicing (depending on the lender), you can fix a portion of your loan (I would recommend that you do this purely from a risk mitigation perspective and not purely to increase your servicing) and negative gearing benefits. You may not be able to borrow $500k but it may work out quite close that figure.
Also you shouldn't sell your property because of finance as there is generally a solution. You should only consider selling a property if its costing you money and not going anywhere or a better opportunity comes up and you need the funds or of course you are in financial diffiiculty.
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Who has told you that you can borrow only $250k if you keep the existing property? There a lot of of ways to increase your servicing/borrowing capacity which includes:
1. Jumping onto an IO loan if you are on a P&I loan
2. Using the PPOR as an investment property so that you can use the rental income on the property whilst potentially renting or boarding rent free with family, etc
3. Comparing what other banks are prepared to lend you as there is a massive difference (particuartly with the numbers you have presented) in what different lenders will lend you
There are a few more strategies to increase your servicing capacity.
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Hi Blade,
I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Try working backwards to determine what property strategy works well for what you want to achieve.
Now NRAS is a type of strategy. It is a great strategy but its not for anyone and not any type of NRAS property is good. It has a lot of benefits and certain restrictions so just ensure that what ever strategy to you choose – these benefits (which the sales guy will give you) but more importantly the restrictions are explained to you by a professional and not the sales guy plugging the property.
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Lenders will look at your taxable income however this is calculated by dividing your taxable income by the 12 month sales noted in your BAS Statements. This must fall within a certain percentage (generally under 50%).
Lenders require different information when it comes to lo docs and in fact CBA charges a higher interest rate for their lo doc loans as they are seen as higher risk loans (it may have something to do with the fact that they have a higher percentage of defaults for lo doc loans).
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Yes! It's actually quite surprising how many people think that claiming depreciation is only applicable on OTP properties.
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Very interesting thread – I had 2 Japanese investors purchasing here and both mentioned that they 'escaped' Japan as they believe the economy is terrible and they have no confidence and things are going to get any better anytime soon. No real concrete evidence or numbers but just the word from the people living in the country.
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Gosh these groups just keep popping up im losing count. Andrew's comment above is great – I personally like to see a track record and talk to people who have used their services before.
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