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Is the 228sqm including courtyard or is the actual interior floorspace?
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Yes I have done 3 at 90% and 1 at 95%. All were approved. They all came back with 4's for market but they were countered by recent sales and overall the applications with either good or strong.
They will only decline it if the application itself is borderline and you need the rental for servicing and of course you get a bunch of 4's for rating (even one actually).
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A 228sqm is gargantuan – is this normal for the suburb?
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You can definitely do it with CBA. The issue will be around the risk ratings. If there are any 5's then its not doable.
You cannot order the vals upfront for a property that has 4 units on the one title.
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Is this a villa or unit? Either way 228sqm is massive for a villa or unit.
Going back to your question – there is no black and white rule. It will ultimately come down to supply and demand of the area, are there any plans to drive people in or out of the suburb, etc?
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They do 4 unless the loan amount is over $1mil.
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Ok recent sales will help you. Print these out and give them to the broker to submit as part the application. Im sure the valuer will know this anyway but better to be safe. If you are using the rental on the dwellings then you need to ensure that they are in a rentable state as the valuation will also value the rent.
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Step 1: Ask for an extension to the cooling off period. Assuming the rest of the application is ok, i,e, servicing etc, your biggest issue will the valuation.
Also you will not be able to do the valuation upfront so you need to buy time ASAP as the valuation will be done after assessment. So we will not know where you are at until vals done. Your biggest problem will be the rating that come back with the valuation. If its a 4 then the senior credit officer will consider but if its a 5 then you are gone. The big question is 'are there recent and comparable sales in the area'? If yes then this is good.
Step 2: Tell your broker it can be done via CBA under a residential application. He needs to ensure that the overall application is as strong as possible. This will assist credit's decision if things are tight with the val ratings.
Step 3: Get him to escalate the application ASAP because vals will not be initiated until assessment has been completed.
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To be surprised if CBA credit will only go to 90% if again things are tight with the valuation. So be prepared for this as plan B.
Are the dwellings fully self contained? Are they rentable? Do you need rental as part of the servicing?
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What is the Purchase price amount? What is the LVR you are wanting? What is the postcode? What are the dwellings, i.e. houses, units, boarding homes, etc?
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What are the current outgoings i.e. strata, water bills, loan interest and what is the proposed rental return? If your strata is only $160 then the yield should be good. If the yield is decent then this is a good thing. This helps with CG but there are other factors such as supply and demand for the area that comes into play with CG.
I was thinking whether you could add value to the property via a reno but it was built in 08 so there is not much you can do other than hope for decent organic CG.
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Which area of Sydney are you looking at?
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$160 per quarter for strata is dirt cheap. What is the net yield on the property?
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Hi Mate,
I understood what you meant – I just couldn't believe the agent told you that.
As a side note do you know that you need to do a building and pest inspection and also have your solicitor/conveyancer review the contract?
You can certainly do this in the cooling off period but you will lose your deposit if the B & P Inspection comes back with a huge problem. It depends on where you are buying and what type of property you are buying. Just be mindful of that.
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What the? Which state are you in?
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For me cashflow positive is deducting all the outgoings (this both upfront and ongoing), council, maintenance, building insurance, landlord insurance, etc from the rental income and potentially the negative gearing benefits.
Instead of a property coach align yourself with a good Solicitor/Conveyancer, Broker or Banker and Accountant.
Why a good Solicitor? You need them to be quick,responsive and knowledgeable particularly when it comes to things like SMSF transactions. If you need to jump onto a deal then you need them to order the Building and Pest inspection same day.
Why a good banker/broker? You need to to structure the loan correctly, put you with the right lender not just for what you want to do today but also in the future. For example you have just purchased a property and want to build 3 properties on the one title at an LVR of 90% – you shouldn't go to ANZ as they maybe cheap today but will cost you later on.
Why a good Accountant? They need to give you appropriate tax and structuring advise particuarly if you need to set up a trust entity.
I am also a fan of BA's. I think there are some good ones out there that find excellent deals for customers and they are worth their fee.
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What's the plan if you sell the property? i.e. is there a better deal out there?
What are your capital growth projections for the next 5 years? do they outweigh the loss you are currently incurring?
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You want to get the most you can out of the block – build as much dwellings as you can. Don't limit yourself to 2 if you can do 3. Do you DD – speak to a couple of agents, show them concept plans and finishes and get an idea of resale and what things work and what doesn't. For example, single storey villa's or double storey townhouses, units, etc.
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Yes that is correct but you will not have any issues with either resale or renting it out due to the demographic in Hornsby and Kuring Gai (im from Gordon). The benefit of the Sepp is that you are following State Development Guidelines rather than the outdated and backward council DCP.
Do you due diligence on both and see which one looks better. Michael said it took him 5 months – I think you should count yourself lucky it took you that long.
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Cashflow positive properties are not easy to find. How are you calculating cashflow positive?
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