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    There are at least 3 lenders that don't have an employment duration policy. Tackle that option first before venturing into personal loans. 

    Personal loans can work but they also do hurt your application strength. Again re-visit the possibility of your mate getting a loan.

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    Hi David,

    You are looking at it the wrong way – most of Sydney is good to buy. The question is the opportunity – i.e. what can you do to the property to create a higher yielding property or create CG.

    I know your budget is tight so your options are limited particularly in the Sydney market but what is your exact budget and whats your IP strategy?

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    That is a major issue but easy to fix $700 is way way way too much. What is he doing for $700? 

    The problem is that the water will be leaking to the membrane and the flooring underneath the house. This is very bad. 

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    I read it as if he is taking 80% of the value of the property and then subtracting the existing loan amount for this to get his equity. 

    Paul – what is the current value and loan amount?

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    Honestly I hate Guildford – there is/has been massive development in the area for several years and there is an over supply. Its not a very desirable suburb – its quite industrial. Its not on the train line to the City whereas Harris Park and Granville are. 

    Harris Park goes quickly because there is no more units that can go up – its developed to the rim (which is expected because its a small area/suburb).

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    It doesn't quite work that way. Just a few things – in the above scenario you will may not be able to use rental income as part of the servicing (depending on how the application is structured).

    If you have an aggressive IP strategy have you considered borrowing as much as possible on the first purchase and leaving a higher deposit amount for the second purchase? Having adequate deposit for an IP purchase is an extremely common issue. 

    Just because you have a $600k will not mean that you have $600k to spend on 2 properties especially later on. 

    Strategy is a good one though – just need to ensure that the finance is set up correctly not just for what you want to do today but also for your next IP purchase.

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    If its units I would stick to Harris Park and Granville – yield is better and CG potential is stronger as well. 

    The only issue with Harris Park is the crime rate but thats been an issue for a very long time. 

    Granville had the same stigma but its changed a lot over the last few years. 

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    Start with the upfront val to determine the equity and tee up a time to see your banker and broker about the numbers. 

    Also re finance submit the loan as the worst case (high loan amount) you think you will need in case you decide to use the funds for renovations, subdivision, etc.

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    Yes and no – there are certain sections that the State policies refer to the DCP so they work side by side. 

    Would it be worth it? Depends on the area – every is doing Sepp 5's in Kurring gai because its almost impossible to do it via the council policy. Land value is high so numbers stack up in that area.

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    Units or houses? What's the strategy? I know those areas quite well.

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    No stamp duty is included in the above numbers. 

    The total loan amount is tax deductible. Not sure when you purchased the property at $371k but definitely look at an upfront val. They are free and will let you know exactly what you can do with the equity. 

    I get the feeling you haven't discussed this with your banker or broker?

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    In short if you are purchasing a property for $190k in NSW with a $40k deposit then your LVR is almost 82% and the LMI would be around $800. You can capitalise this on top of the loan. 

    Therefore the costs are not as much as you think. The other costs would be the conveyancing costs which is around $1,500 and the Building and Pest Inspection Report which is $500. 

    What is the loan against your PPOR? Also if possible get an upfront valuation on the PPOR to ensure that you have the equity that you need for the IP purchase.

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    No issues with 10% but what are the costs you are referring to re 'purchasing costs'? Do you mean stamp duty costs, tc?

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    Re postcodes it depends – some banks will not lend to some postcodes and other will have restrictions on either the LVR or the loan amount or both. Double check but you should be fine. 

    Re structuring the loan – this is the set up:

    Property 1:

    PPOR Value: $400K (example)

    PPOR Loan (a/c 123): $280k (example)

    Loan 2 – Deposit for other purchase (a/c 456): $40k

    Total LVR: 80%

    Property 2:

    IP Value: $190k

    IP Loan: $150k 

    Total LVR: 80%

    Therefore you will have 2 new loans one for $40k against your PPOR and one against the IP itself. 

    You can do this with different lenders but with those loan amounts you are better off with one lender. Shop around and see if there are better deals in the market. Using equity doesn't affect the PPOR if you do it as per the above. Depends on if you are going to convert the PPOR to an IP. If no then best to park all available funds against the PPOR since its not tax deductible.

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    Hunter Valley is a massive area so you need to speak to your banker or broker to check that there are no restrictions on postcode but I highly doubt that there would be so you should be ok. 

    You are also calculating equity correctly which is great. 

    You shouldn't have any issues with finance and the application seems straight forward. Keep the facilities separate/standalone and have a linked offset.  

    Perhaps get some upfront vals to double check the equity.

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    Ok you need to make sure that the sum insured is equal or more than the valuation amount for the building. At $320k you should be fine.

    Spend a couple of bucks more and go for the higher amount.

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    Which state are we talking about? Whats the postcode? How are you calculating equity? 

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    I would highly doubt you can speak to the bank rep directly. It would have to go via the agent.

    Who did speak to in the bank?

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    Yeah I was using NAB quite a bit on those applications but they recently changed it to 3. Also yes they are definitely 4 dwellings on one title. They need to be dwellings though – not boarding homes, etc. 

    Sammy – please lets us know how you go. 

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    Who is your building insurer when you settled the property and what was the amount insured? Or has settlement not taken place yet?

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