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What's your definition of overpriced? Also re the subdivison and construction – I can't see good margins there – how are you finding it?
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So many questions that need to be clarified.
Ok what does the DA say? How is it staged? Its either constructions first subdivision thereafter or vice versa. I dare say its construction first subdivision later as most DA's (in most Sydney councils) are structured this way. This is why the valuer has valued it as 3 dwellings on one title.
What is the building contract amount? Are there additional work outside the Building Contract?
One option is to order upfront vals with other lenders to see if they are prepared to give a higher valuation amount.
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Equity can be accessed for the purchase of multiple properties. The assumption is that there is adequate equity to do this since the loan is completely paid off against the current property.
It is important that the facilities are standalone and that the interest is not contaminated between the IP's/purposes. The strategy then is do you go 95%, 90% or 80%. This requires a lot of research and discussion. This is a common strategy for a lot of investors.
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I am finding a big difference in the valuations across banks. It may be a good idea to get a few upfront vals to see exactly how much equity you can squeeze out. Also get your broker or banker to contest the val and milk every dollar that he or she can.
There are many banks that do upfront vals.
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Colorbond fencing is a bit tacky in my view however they are far more durable than palings. Make sure you also get a few quotes.
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Are you purchasing just one IP or do you have an aggressive plan over the next 3-5 years?
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St George cops a bit because their service has been ordinary however they do have good servicing which is a very underestimated aspect of finance particularly for aggressive investors. If you can get 4.99% with St George then you have done well. I bet you will start sleeping well at night with a rate of 4.99%.
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I have a few investors who have purchased near the uni and getting quite strong yields – I would prefer houses to units though.
It would be good to speak to an expert (whether it be agent or investor) who knows the area inside out.
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Well it depends if you can someone smart enough to pick that up but yes that will be an issue that you need to be prepared for. In that particular case you cannot say that you are leaving for the rate – you will need to have a primary reason as say bad service or something a little stronger and then say that Westpac is offering 4.99%. Its still going to be tougher because you have fixed loans and nevertheless good luck.
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No Steve! Do a proper analysis before choosing a lender. Bankwest has terrible servicing and quite frankly terrible policies.
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That is ridiculous – how are you expected to put in an offer if you don’t have visibility of the COS? I would politely move on. What state is this?
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It's CBA chances are that you will get another douche bag or douchette.
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I had a client yesterday with similar borrowings but a lower LVR have St George price match the 4.99% offer.
Give them a call, ask for the discharges unit and take it from there.
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The broker cannot call unless they have third party authority. You will either need to grant that (which I would not suggest) or you would need to call yourself.
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You have several options here. Many banks will do non genuine savings to 90% plus LMI.
If you have been renting for 12 months – there are many banks that will consider this as genuine savings.
You have a few options so compare the products and see which ones works out best. There may be other factors you need to consider like servicing etc as generally those lenders that do 90% plus LMI non genuine savings have conservative servicing. There is only one lender that does this and has good servicing but you need to ensure that the application is strong as they have hard credit scoring.
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That will not be an issue Joe unless you are calling them every week.
I would personally give it a week before trying again.
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Many serviced apartments have a condition in the clause where you cannot live in the property which many lenders consider as unacceptable security. There are only 3 lenders that will accept this.
Several lenders do serviced apartment but it is dependent on a number of things:
1. Is it pure investment or can you use the property as PPOR. If there is a clause that you cannot use it as PPOR in the lease agreement then you knock out CBA, Westpac, Macquarie and a handfulof other lenders leaving you with Citibank, Widebay and St George. From that selection many will have a policy whereby they will only finance up to 25% of the units within the complex.
2. Must be fully contained
3. Different lender will do different LVRs
Here are the Pros and Cons:
Pros:
1. Great net cashflow
Cons:
1. Hard to resell
2. Finance is extremely difficult for reasons mentioned above
3. A firesale in the complex and you are stuff when it comes to drawing equity on the property or refinancing
Overall I would strongly suggest avoiding SA's as an investment vehicle.
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That is very surprising for 2 reasons; one CBA are notorious for throwing everything but the kitchen sink at customers who are moving away and secondly I think that there is room for rates to go down again.
Not sure what your LVR or loan amounts look like but 5.50% is a good variable rate Joe.
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Hi Mate,
It doesn't work that way. If there are internal projects then they are deemed as one organisation however when it comes to the sales channel (whether it be 1st part or 3rd party) then its game on. Call STG – I had one customer last night you called and got them to price match but she does have a higher amount of lending.
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Call the bank and ask them to put you through to their discharges area. Tell them that you have been dealing with a broker and he has prepared an application to take to to Westpac who are offering 4.99% on a 2 year fixed rate. You can through in other features that Westpac do that other lenders don't do. Then tell them to send you the discharge forms. They will start will offering other things but will generally get to match the price. This is no guarantee though that they will price match as lenders will differ in what they can offer (CBA and NAB are quite good at keeping customers though).
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