I guess it depends on what phase of wealth creation you're in, like acquisition or whatever.
I liquidated and rented, while seeking the right motel property to buy (which returns me 20%+, ) so for me renting frees up the bulk of my capital for a better use of that capital than buying a PPOR.
Also, if I did buy a PPOR and use it as security for buying a commercial property, the bank will undervalue the PPOR and I lose about 20% of that equity's buying power, whereas cash is valued at 100%, not 80%.
After I buy a motel, I can continue renting and stockpile cash or invest the motel proceeds in a PPOR. It just depends if I want to reinvest the proceeds in another motel or quit trying to grow fast and buy a PPOR.
If you owned the freehold of a motel with a tenant in place, it is a passive investment, where the tenant operates the business and pays you rent. Typical rent returns around say 9% – 9.5%.
There are a number of criteria for the selection of an investment, and location is one of them. The strength and stability of the investment is only as good as the strength and stability of the tenant and his business.
While there are highway junctions out there where a motel would not prosper, high traffic flow is usually beneficial.
Assuming your $1.5m is in cash, and a lending body is willing to finance your investment, LVR at say 60%, then you might be able to buy an investment motel around the $3.7m mark. Unfortunately if interest rates rise once or twice, commercial loans will most likely be around 9-9.5%, so while the returns on your own cash input would be 9-9.5%, there would be little or no return on any borrowed funds, and the risk of future negative gearing on those borrowed funds if interest rates increased still further again.
Sorry I don't have a motel for sale, I'm an active buyer seeking a suitable leasehold to operate under management.
Brokers websites may be found by googling this and adding your target state on the end , for example " motel for sale queensland " . Then sift through all the brokers' websites and motels for sale in the categories you want.
Does that help ? Hope you find something you like. Let us know how it goes. Cheers thecrest
Hi st81hp79 Glad & sad someone else is seeking the same solution.
Perhaps I should fax my accountant and request a quote from him for engaging a tax / trust specialist to look at my situation and propose a plan and report back to my accountant and include in the quote the cost of my accountant's evaluation of the proposed plan. Might try that, see if it works.
If you send your car to a general workshop and it needs work in the transmission or electrics, they send it to a transmission specialist or an auto electrician. How hard is it. And I'm sure my accountant's car goes the same route. So this is not rocket science. I don't understand .
Hi st81hp79 Looks like your intended words didn't make it on your post, only a quote of my post. Please try again. Any comments welcome. Cheers thecrest
Hi Ruth There are enough big country towns with growth, say over 20,000+ population so maybe those are a better risk. In NSW there are strong growing towns like Dubbo, Orange, Parkes, Bathurst, Goulburn, Wagga, plenty to choose from. Cheers thecrest
A rent increase demand for the stated reason of offsetting water costs would very likely be overturned by a Tribunal even if morally reasonable because the legislation states that you can only charge for water as per the individual meter for that tenant. No meter : no charge. A rent increase demand for "market" reasons will stick if the increase is legal under the lease conditions and reasonable for the premises in the current market. Mention water without a meter and you're sunk ( oops that's a groaner, sorry) Cheers thecrest
Might help to review in detail all the ways the agent is marketing the property, assuming you've been getting advertising invoices. Put signs on the fence and building for those who want to expand in the area or are driving around prospecting. List with 2 other agents, competition creates urgency and activity. Insist on being included in tenant vetting procedure so you know about every enquiry before any are declined. Letterbox drop the industrial local area in case anyone wants more space nearby. Good luck Cheers thecrest
Hi RXracer Yuk factor of 10. Wonder if the ant and maggot problem is related ? Have they got pets ? Sounds like the pest controller needs to kill the whole food chain before it enlarges any further. Suggestion – After the pest treatment, request in writing to the tenants to schedule some weekly inspections inside the house for the next few months "just to monitor the situation and ensure the treatments have been effective", which would monitor the cleanliness of the tenants, or they'd let you off the hook if they refuse. Then you'd know they're the grubs.
" I guess we're seeking a great accountant / financial planner who understands property, tax and investment structures, who is friendly, has a sense of humour, likes people and genuinely wants to help them with their wealth creation. "
Thanks for your thoughts. There are many great people out there, including "great" accountants, we'll end up with the right one. Cheers thecrest
Here's an update for anyone following this thread. Current offering by NAB is 60% LVR on a strong motel business, (leasehold), and can be improved to 70% if there is sufficient experience in the CV's of those operating the business.
Leaseholds selling for above $700K and returning 30% ROI should show at least a 20% return ROI under management even. Assuming you know how and are prepared to operate the motel yourself in hard times, you can replace the managers and save about $60K, a nice buffer for the bank. Very few businesses out there can pare back expenses in hard times and still maintain all services to customers as well as a motel can do it.
So right now, with commercial loans around 81/2 – 9% , a business returning 20%-30% with a 25-30 year lease incl a free home is a good investment for some.
Commercial property investors must be feeling the squeeze right now, with commercial loan interest rates near 9% which is about the same for many returns on commercial property. Makes it hard unless you have a big deposit. But, don't forget, for those interested in motel leasehold investment, that motel leaseholds operated under management costing over $700K should return at least 20% under management, 30% plus a free home if you manage it yourself. I'm a fan. Cheers thecrest
Suggest you see the ad in the right hand column "1 on 1 mentoring, make your own enquiries. Our mentor was Brendan, highly successful for us. Cheers thecrest
Hi Rechargelife It's a long path from where you are now to the front door of a motel of your own. But it can be done. I suggest you read all the posts on this forum about motels, talk to the Chains and ask them about the benefits of membership vs fees. You usually don't inherit previous owners' chain agreements, usually free to make your own decisions. Chains are popular and usually helpful for newcomers. I've sent you a message on FB. Borrowing criteria for motels is complicated, there are good finance brokers on this site, suggest you talk to them. Choose the ones with lots of posts to their credit, they've been here helping forum members for a long time. Start analysing P & Ls from those 2 motels and any others of interest until you understand them. You need an accountant to help you. Keep learning until you have enough knowledge that buying is a well informed decision. Cheers thecrest
Hi Alec
Welcome to the forum, enjoy yourself, it’s a powerhouse of info and help from members, it’s been a big help to me.
Like any Forum, add your help and input and members will help you in return.
Hope it’s as profitable and enjoyable for you as it has been for me (and many others).
Cheers
thecrest
Just spent a few weeks trawling through heaps of advertised leaseholds on the market and noticed a few with rent as low as 16% and quoted as being in good condition. Without full details on the individual motels one can't say it's a great deal, but some of the rent ratios look quite favourable.
I'd just like to mention again to Tim that I'm looking for a leasehold in Wagga so please contact me – private message on this forum or email would be appreciated.
Here's a little Xmas cheer with mixed feelings. There are some excellent motel leaseholds on the market right now for those seeking a motel. And the buyers market continues. We've found a great motel leasehold in good condition at the right price and in a strong location. Now we're trying to move the purchasing process forward. However ….
In the market of motel leases and freeholds, we have entered the end of calendar year blank spot, where you can't get help on crunching numbers from an accountant, or find an active solicitor, or a broker who wants to work, so it means that making progress in the process of buying a motel leasehold or freehold very difficult. Naturally there's no sense from a Bank either at this time of the year. Feeling slightly frustrated by the Xmas blank spot, while at the same time enjoying the time with family and friends. Ho ho hmmm.
So guess I'll just go back and crunch the same numbers again in a different order and use the time to plan further. A definition of "mixed feelings' could be the arrival of Xmas when you're trying to progress a property deal.