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    FWIW – The Aussie Rob sales team did a sales presentation to us at home one afternoon, several weeks after the Darling Harbour Mega-Conference.
    We showed considerable sales resistance, and we were very confused and unable to grasp how this whole program was operating, and had more questions than answers like who ran the information systems behind the scenes, and with all this money to be made, why bother jacking up this high profile sales organisation and be out there selling it to everyone, why not just employ 300 people like a call centre, train them and pay them wages ? Or don’t sell it just play it yourselves with a bigger bankroll ?

    We expressed our suspicions at being quoted past results. We asked how we could assess this program by being provided with future predictions but it was not practical.

    Unable to overcome our doubts, and with no clear reasons to reject the product other than the lack of clear reasons to support purchasing it, we walked away.

    Hope you can get a refund if you request it.

    Cheers
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    Hi Vet80.
    Sounds like a refund opportunity.
    If you’re seeking passive retirement income, you might like to checkout my posts on motel investment ( passive ).
    Motel leaseholds return around 9% to landlords, sometimes 10% if setup right by the landlord offering a new lease.
    Cheers
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    20:20 hindsight is easy to sell.
    There are horseracing betting systems for sale taking credit for past success, easy after the races have run and results are in though.
    I’d like to see a trading system offered for sale with a 100% unconditional money back guarantee.
    cheers
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    First I’d locate and engage a very property investing savvy accountant and ask them the same questions.
    Then bring a short listod options and scenarios to the forum and refine it.
    My 2c worth.
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    Over the last 2 years we have had some educational experiences with banks who financed our motel investment, and in the hope it might help someone else, we’ll share it here.
    Bank A – agreed to finance our plan to sell our freehold motel, buy a leasehold motel and double the return for the same investment.
    Then use the extra income to buy 1-2 brm units nearby to fill through the motel as serviced apartments.
    As soon as we sold the freehold motel, the bank said “oh sorry we don’t finance leasehold motels unless you hold some freehold property” – . . . . . we asked ” um doh , do you mean like the freehold property we just sold ?”
    Gotta love that one. Sgt George .

    Bank B. Then we found another bank to finance the same plan, reached agreement, but as soon as we wanted to go ahead, they moved the LVR into an impossible position for us thereby killing the deal. They wanted a massive deposit. Then they asked us if we’d like to borrow $XYZ and we said sure, that’s heaps more than we’d asked for, then they refused it a week later but during that week they recorded it as a credit enquiry by us for the extra huge amount on our credit record, for all to see, and then told us that due to circumstances of over a month ago that amount could not have been lent anyway.
    Gotta love that one too. NAB.

    We decided to try all the finance brokers we knew, but none could find finance for us.

    Bank C. Then as a last resort, we decided to ask the vendor’s bank, on the assumption that the vendor’s bank had been enjoying the direct cashflow income of the motel business for a number of years and should be confident of the figures from the vendor. After all, if the vendor’s bank had refused to finance it, we would’ve had good reason to doubt the vendor’s figures and walk away. The bank agreed to finance it provided we reduced the LVR a little over the first 12 months, and then on IO for 5 years. They agreed that their firsthand knowledge of the property and business made it possible. Very competitive interest rate, great service, friendly helpful.
    Thank you CBA.

    In this case, the journey was educational but lousy, but the outcome excellent.

    Posted in case it helps someone get a deal across the line.

    Cheers
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    Anyone care to add to this post n let us all know what they’re seeking in a motel and share their story ?
    The journey is always amazing.
    Cheers
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    Hi Kenneth.
    You’re talking pesos, right ?

    cheers
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    Hi Alex
    Nice big quote. Did u mean to copy all that ? :-)
    Agree it’s very interesting.
    Cheers
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    Hi John.
    That’s a very clever strategy.
    It converts personal living expenses the tenant can’t claim on tax,
    into expenses the landlord can claim.

    Can someone familiar with Australian Tax Laws tell us if
    there are any FBT implications in supplying “free” utilities to a tenant ?

    What else can the landlord supply for the same effect – groceries, full room n board, gardening services, ironing or housemaid services, ???

    It’s good of you to post this info for everyone on the forum, we all benefit.
    Hopefully our Australian tax man doesn’t move to plug that hole.

    Cheers
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    TripAdvisor lists only one motel in Narromine, might be other accomm though.
    Cheers
    thecrest

    http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotels-g529007-Narromine_New_South_Wales-Hotels.html

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    Hi All.
    We are pleased to announce finally after many hiccups over the last 18 months of searching
    for the right motel, , that we have
    settled and purchased the leasehold of :

    The Best Western Ambassador Motor Inn, Wagga Wagga NSW.
    4 star, 22 rooms plus 6 x 2 brm apartments, pool, no restaurant,
    strong business, excellent location, very strong motel town.

    Still happy to help anyone else with motel investment, but
    time a bit more limited while operating this motor inn.

    Finance was crucial, nearly stopped us,
    and then we found finance ourselves through a
    creative process with CBA.

    Steep learning curve, to another level I guess.

    Our thanks to all those who helped and encouraged us to
    persevere through a difficult process.

    Family and friends are priceless.

    The next 6 months operating the business ourselves will prove the figures
    beyond doubt. Looking forward to that point in time.

    Hope you all enjoyed a happy Xmas and
    we wish you a very successful 2012.

    Cheers
    thecrest

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    Ask the vendor, who needs to be not only willing, but legally able.
    Cheers
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    Some good suggestions here, if you want only payroll, MYOB and QB entry level are around $700 & $500 respectively.

    I’d really appreciate as many suggestions as possible, something will ideally suit this purpose,
    and I’ll look at just about anything. Sometimes the simplest are best.

    Cheers
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    HI Naisy.
    I totally agree with Pazza & Xdrew – education first.
    Spend little or nothing until you have a sound strategy.
    Search this forum for lists of essential reading and usually you’ll find people suggesting starting with a book like Rich Dad Poor Dad.
    And continue to haunt the forum as you have, and you will learn fast.
    Good luck on your journey.
    Cheers
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    OMG. Didn’t notice. Picked it out of the active posts list. Duh.
    Oh well, more typing practice.
    Thanks for the heads up.
    Cheers
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    Sounds like Shangri-la.
    That was a nice movie.

    Maybe I’ve missed something in trying to quickly read all the volume of your posts.
    Cheers
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    Hi Tracey.
    Assuming the valuer agrees with the $120K nett return, and that return has existed for a long enough period,
    then there must be some reasons in the written valuation stating
    how the valuer reached a figure below the capitalisation rate you were expecting.
    That’s not to say the stated reasons are correct.
    BTW, what is the general cap rate the valuer was using for your type of property ?
    Does that cap rate compare with properties of similar use in other geographical areas ?
    Has the valuer valued this type of property elsewhere where this type of property is more prevalent like near a university ?
    I share your frustration when excessively tough LVR’s lock up too much capital or equity and delay expansion plans.
    Cheers
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    Question To Steve.
    If you think your Apprentice Property Investing Cert IV Program is suitable for young beginners, please explain why and
    how you think they could cope with learning it alongside mature age beginners.

    Cheers
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    Hi Scott.
    Thanks for that info. I’m very interested in locating that article and will start searching.
    The Echo Point location would have to be considered very strong in the tourism sector.
    It’s an awsome view, well setup for buses and a “must see” . As I remember, it’s free too.
    Great motel for someone with good maintenance skills and ripe for a reno.

    We’ve been avoiding anything with a restaurant, so the one at Mudgee next to the RSL is perfect, and the
    other one is in Bathurst and although it has a restaurant, it’s across the road from a hotel/motel with 2 restaurants so for that location we’d make an exception. But banks LVR’s are so harsh with motel purchase that we ran out of deposit funds after we committed to the Wagga purchase. Then these plums pop up, ggrrrr.

    Cheers
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    This is what I mean about opportunities coming along after you hit the borrowing wall.

    Here are 2 motels which just came onto the market , just when I’m out of funds to buy, and I wish I could buy both.

    http://motelsales.info/index.php?page=properties.php&session=1248287338&id=774

    http://motelsales.info/index.php?page=properties.php&session=1248287338&id=766

    If anyone is interested in these, I’m happy to discuss and assist.

    Cheers
    thecrest

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