Well I personally enjoy reading his books and am currently reading my third (Retire Young, Retire Rich) and I beleive in taking most things for face value, he never said he was going to write a text book. Like Steve, Robert’s books have motivated me into action, that is worth the price of a book.
As to whether rich dad is real or dead, I dont care much (except that you have shattered my illusions that he is real, and thanks for that[]) I also think depending on your stage of investing, experienced/inexperienced you do get detail out of his books you just have to look for it, it’s there often diguised in a story about his own experience.
By the way, let’s not forget that he also has other products in his range, such as the cashflow board games, and I read a comment by Dale Gunther-Goss (Melbourne Accountant) that the board game “blew him away”. So there is more to this “conman”.
There!
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I have read about this case in API Mag this month. Interesting situation from a newbie point of view.
Roughly the Harts had $X of deductions for compound interest, rejected by the ATO and now there is an appeal with final ruling due in June as to whether “people” with “split loans” will have to pay back the claimed deductions received to date as well as fines etc.
It is all centred around loan packages aimed at minimising tax, I beleive the ATO claim it is tax evasion.
I guess that is why so many people are asking questions hear about structuring and line of credit loans etc. We all want to make the right choices and stay under the tax mans radar.
I hope I wasnt too vague there, I have a horrible lurgy[xx(]
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I was just having another read of ths thread and wondered what it was that prompted you to raise this topic. Was it an observation that many questions revolve around the getting every little dollar discount or tax deduction etc.? Was it a test? And what was your take?
Anyway thanks it was thought provoking.
Cheers
Leigh K []
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
Thanks for sharing that experience and incite. I have been reading Retire Young Retire Rich by Robert Kyosaki, and it seems that you have both had the same revelations, congratulations.
I too (believe I have) have come the same revelation but! I have noticed that, like with dieting, there are always people that want to hold you back even those that care about you. They think your plans are pie in the sky, your dreaming etc. It challenges your beliefs and makes discussing your plans with people around you difficult. Their reality is different to mine/yours/ours and it’s hard for them to see our vision for our future.
Phooper, your new found reality is going to be challenged, but remember what you wrote here today.
Quasi, I like your style!
Cheers
Leigh K[]
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
My husband and I are also new to property investing, and in December last year we felt that we had best get on and start investing. We had been to a number of FREE negative gearing information evening and had the representatives visit our home so we could pump them for advice [][][][][xx(].
So whilst perusing the internet one night I came across an apartment in a location in NSW that we thought was a good area having lived there previously. So that was our due diligence. It gave us a negative return so we were happy [][][][][xx(].
Now only 3 months later we have still got good equity in our PPOR to use and thought lets start looking again, however this time we saw the reno kings on Today Tonight which prompted me to do some information searching and I found Steve McKnight and PI.com.
Well I have learnt so much in the past month that my advice to you is; the 3 L’s of property are not “location location location”, but “learn learn learn”. Spend the next week reading every thing you can and then think again – what else do I need to learn.
Education is leverage. Use it well.
Cheers & Good luck
Leigh K[]
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I think (without disrespect) that Margret Lomas is refering very generally to a type of property investor in the market place. Being the average mum and dad with some equity to use and a friend said an investment property would be a good idea. They go looking for a place similar to their own … “so if we need to we can move into it”.
Since learning more about PI I have come to learn that professional investors buy without emotion because there is due diligence to be done and they know that it is business.
However, Quasimodo, I think that the low balling strategy you mention is an interesting strategy if it works for you, but I don’t want to have a WTF reputation. I plan to develop working relationships with agents and other contacts that will ultimately enable me to grow my wealth.
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I agree with AD that property investing is about people (learnt that from you[]), however I also think that to be a professional property investor is a life decision and you have to be in it for the long haul. Therefore looking at the big picture.
You should be able to say, can I see myself doing this in XX years? And the answer should be yes.
Other people are attracted to passionate people, they really know when you love what you do, it builds trust and rapport, two qualities I beleive are critical to helping others realise there property ownership dreams.
Hmmm!
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
LOC stands for Line of credit, and when I started using this site a few people told me to use the search facility in this forum as many topics are discussed frequently and you can learn a lot by reading back through these discussions.
So go to the search engine and type in LOC or line of credit and see how you go.
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I took am not overly strong on the financial side of things. But I do beleive, that’s just a problem for me to solve – I can learn that.
Since spending time in this forum (mostly) and others my financial understand has already increased. I have learnt to work out my Debt Servicing Ratio, Cash on Cash Returns amoungst other things.
As you are probably aware my husband and I are going to be attending the Australian Property Investing Masters, and I am confident of two results, 1) We will both learn A LOT, about financials aswell as other property related issues and, 2) We/I will come away with a list of issues that we will need to learn more about.
Either way I figure will be ahead. Especially if we are one of the lucky ten!
Steve, this lucky ten is really starting to feel like something out of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory[8D]
So Willie, I hope to be seeing you there.
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I hope I didn’t imply you were a “pompus git”[] well snobby at least[]. I really just ment don’t a.s.s.u.m.e!
The other comment I was thinking about earlier was, that when you are buying in rural areas a rent of $80 or $110 is only relative. In the country rent is cheaper without any reflection on socio economic status. (It’s getting a bit late to be using such language)[]
And I also enjoyed that renter from hell story! But that is part of the risk, all investment has a component of risk, it is just how well you assess your risk that counts.
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
We sound as though we are at similar stages of our investing strategies, and with similar questions. The only thing I wanted to add was, don’t pre judge people without the facts.
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We were also discussing the “Renters from Hell” post by Steve. So my husband’s argument is supported by the fact that cheaper rental properties may also attract the not so favourable tenant who trashes the place or leaves without paying rent etc. This in turn would eat into your positive cashflow.
You don’t need to be a low income earner to trash a house, look at rock/movie stars trashing hotel rooms, cricket and footballers demonstrating poor behaviour on planes and in hotels. Tenants from hell can be found in any income bracket. So if we don’t try we won’t make any mistakes at all … but will that increase my wealth – NO.
You’ve got to be in it to win it.
Good luck with yours.
Cheers
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
Sensational, I look forward to meeting you guys and girls.
But surely there are more out there come on let yourself be known.
[]WHO’S GOING TO THE MASTERS?
4walls, best of luck I hope you can wrangle things.
[][][]Leigh K[][][]
PS: You will know who I am, I’ll the one carring the ‘ENJO’ bag. Of course. Be sure to come and say hi to me and Matt (my husband).
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
I too am new to PI and have spent almost 3 weeks researching and spending a lot of time around this and other web site learning as much as I can. I would highly recommend purchasing the Buyer Beware or Serets of Property Investment by Steve McKnight found in teh resources section of this web site.
I recently finished both and have found them to be very valuable. It is best to do as much reading about this next step in your investing strategy in order to avoid costly mistakes.
Cheers and good luck
Leigh K
“If you will take on your self-doubt and laziness, you will find the door to your freedom.”
-Robert Kiyosaki
Not meaning to speak for Steve McKnight, but as quoted from his initial message there would seem to me to be no reason for you to be excluded. Your chance would be as good as anyone’s.
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I filled in the form to the best of my ability, trying with all my heart to come across as someone who wouldn’t let them down.
This is the sort of dedication I’ll be looking for… someone who wants this for what I perceive to be a worthy purpose and has the passion to succeed.
If this is you then you stand a good chance.
In fact to look at your situation in a positive light, your story might make a very interesting angle for Steve’s book, so you might even have a better chance than some. Hmmmm!
I haev been searching the forum as well and have come up with some more info about them. I will check out those links also Brent. Although I think this little fish might just Keep It Simple until I am confident about the main part of PI.