If you do a search of this site at the top of this page you will find this topic is raised alot and many many books are recommended you will be able to print out a long list and go to the library to check them out.
There is generally nothing wrong with nothing down deals using your equity but Fullout doesnt have any equity in this property yet so the bank wont use it to fund another property
Sorry if this sounds a bit sarcastic but it is late and I am tired[]
Why can’t you work and do your investing as well, I just don’t see why you would cut off your income stream and run up debt on non deductable living expenses. Also Terry what are you saying, no bank will lend him money without a job even with pre approval. I know you know more about lending than me but come on man[?]
John, it sounds like pie in the sky, a lovely thought but be realistic 6-12 months off is not to concentrate on investing it is just so you don’t have to work for a while, I suggest you get married and have a baby that worked for me[][][]
Keep your job set your plan for retirement, build your wealth now and retire rich and early. Enjoy the money and time then.
I think I missed the big question here, so I will just give you my two cents.
If owning your own home is something you want to do, then go for the FHOG why give away $7000 when it’s available to you.
Also, as far as IP’s go, I would use the 13k as a 10-20% deposit on something cheaper, the bank will be happier lending you money in the future if you don’t max out your mortgage insurance.
Talk to your dad about accessing the equity built up in the unit, if you have an agreement with him that it is yours then he should be happy to go that next step. Or it may even be time to sort it out and have it transfered to you (sold! which includes more stamp duty).
So I hope you got something out of that, but you may also like to clarify what your problem is. As for being confused, stay here a few more months and you will be buy’n with the best of them[]
Do you think that, being my first property, I should attempt to do initial repairs myself? EnjoLady, would you do this or would you hire someone to do it for you, keeping in mind that this is my first property but also that it’s 4 hours drive away?
The property I just bought is my first positive cashflow investment and is 4.5 hours away, my intention was to handle all repairs and improvements myself (hubby & I) but after travelling there I really didn’t want to be handling little jobs, but would still have done any reno’s. As I mentioned before you need to factor into your numbers if you are going to have someone else do any on going maintenance.
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This is a bit of a general question that will perhaps be difficult to answer if you don’t know anything about the property, but the asking price is $78,500 and I am planning to offer $60,000 to $65,000. Do you think that this is a reasonable thing to offer almost $20,000 below asking price? Will I possibly get laughed at? If so how would/do you best handle that sort of situation? I guess you just know what your max is and stand your ground. After all every offer must be put to the Vendor no matter how unrealistic it might be, right?
That is a big reduction in price, is it substantiated(spell check), does your numbers tell you the deal doesn’t work unless it is reduced so far. I don’t beleive you will be laughed at but the agent may ask you to reconsider your offer. I think the best thing to say here in my opinion is find out more about the sale, why they are selling, when was the last offer etc, because a low offer might just be right but more info will help you to determine that.
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EnjoLady, when you made the “official offer” did you put it in a letter? What did you specifically say?
I purchased Steve MCNights Buyer Beware (available is the resources section) and it has all electronic versions of the templates he designed. I used the offer template which has spaces for all the info you need to fill in and check boxes for terms and conditions. I was complemented on more than one occassion for the professionalism of my offer.
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After you made the offer did the Agent then send you the contract, which you reviewed with your solicitor before going to see the property?
Is it a necessary thing to get the solicitor involved at this early stage before even viewing the property? I guess you think it is.
Did you conduct this tooing & froing over the phone with your solicitor or in person?
I had previously met with my solicitor, so when it came time to buying a house I just sent him the contract gave him a phone call and we talked breifly over the phone about it, and yes I think it is worth involving them asap.
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With the building inspection did you simply arrange that over the phone with the Real Estate Agent allowing them access on your behalf? Would there be any point in trying to arrange the building inspection on the same day that you inspect it or do you think in this case it would be better to have the building inspection already done?
With the building inspection I phone a local builder and he contacted the agent for me, actually I also contacted the agent to let him know I was arranging that and gave him teh builders details, just to keep him in the loop. I chose to have the inspection done before I got there so I could talk to the builder on teh phone and discuss anything that I need to pay specific attention to when I got there. I also met with the builder after I had been to the house to pick up the report. I now have a local contact if I ever need work done. You could arrange for the inpection on the day you go there.
This exact situation happened to me a couple of weeks ago, due to other comittments I just couldn’t get out to see the property 4.5 hours away, however I was pretty sure I was going to buy it based on the numbers.
So I said to the agent how do I get this off the market for 2 weeks, he said you can make an offer and put the inspection into the conditions of sale.
So I made my official offer with these terms, subject to building inspection, purchaser inspecting the property to their satisfaction, solicitor reviewing contract and rental information being made available. The agent ammended the building inspection to include major structural faults, I ammended it back with the advice of my solicitor, the agent also ammended the view property to include a specific date that the property would be viewed and I thought this was fair enough.
The contracts were sent to me to view, I organised a building inspection and picked up the report when I arrived in town after discussing it on the phone with the builder. And signed the contract with the agent in town.
As Steve and Dave say, you can request any terms, it’s up to you how flexible you are prepared to be. I suppose developing a good relationship with an agent helps.
Good luck
Cheers
Leigh K
PS: My advice for a property far away is to concider how little problems will be handled because if you are going to have someone els to the handy man repairs for you then allow for this cost. I am luck mine has turned into a Wrap.
Just on the unlimited deposits, Steve and DAve are a Wrappers (not the doof doof type) so when they do a deal the new purchaser gives them his next deposit, the yield is 7%+ I assume and hence unlimited finance, am I right guys.
You sound like me in February, I didn’t know which way to turn or who to trust. Since Feb I have purchased a positive cashflow house and am looking at an offer on a block of units, I feel like I have come full circle.
How did I do that, well most of the thanks is to Steve & Dave and this forum. I have purchased all of the products available from Steve & Dave (tax deductable) and spent many hours here learning about finance terms and how to calculate all teh things that seem simple now but only a few months ago seems like a nightmare.
My advice is, take your time, just because you have decided to invest doesn’t mean you have to go and buy one today, just by investing the time to learn about your investment vehicle is a start to your investment plan. Now of course I agree with those that will say jump and get started, that’s inevitable (spell check) but you will know when your confidence has built up and you can decide how much and who to trust.
Thanks for the info, just wondering if that is 500k combined loans or 500k current loan being applied for.
I also read your article last night, it helped to clear up a few grey areas, I thought you took an interesting approach and agreed with your conclusion. So thanks for the help.
Folks,
Just about the service from the NAB, we are assigned a personal banker who has been very good, but I think now that the trust is in place he might just be out of his depth a little, so Dale GG gave us a number for his guy at the NAB.
Also we are setting up a LOC with them and asked about value of the property as they don’t have a panel of valuers they do accept valuations from qualified valuers in a written report addressed to the NAB for ‘mortgagee purposes’.
We have a professional package with the NAB, have done for about 5 years now, we don’t get charged bank fees on any of our accounts and no application fees (although they find other ways of applying fees for things you’ve never heard of) and we also get half percent of all mortgage rates.
It has saved us alot of money just on regular savings accounts, so it’s worth it.
Although I am not sure how we will go if we get a loan with the NAB but through a broker if that will still apply!
My advice is to make sure that you have the right people on your team eg, accountant, solicitor, brokers etc that have knowledge in teh field you are investing in and are also on your side.
I would also say read, reading is the fountain of wealth.