My thoughts were along the same lines as Mel, in a trust the trustee is the technical owner of the property so if the company became the trustee would the company assests flow onto the beneficiaries.
Please let us know how you go with this as it would be of interest to many people I am sure.
Depending on what your plans are … ie: if you are planning to have many properties then a family trust is a good idea. Multiple trusts help you to minimise land tax, as you only pay tax in the entity they are owned.
I do reccommend you get hold of Buyer Beware by Steve McKnight AND Trust Magic by Dale Gatherum Goss. BB can be purchased throught this forum at the resources section and TM can be purchased through API Magazine.
Even you know that your last statement was just antagonistic and I don’t believe that you really believe in what you wrote. The TV stations know full well what they are doing and know exactly what type of story they want to promote.
Personally I think we will see less of these stories as property becomes less of the flavour of the month and they move into other “hot” topics.
Why don’t you just add a small line about deposit finance assistance available, or something like that. And let the buyers decide whether it is a straight forward sale or partially financed.
I wrapped my first buy and hold to the tentant about 6 months ago .. they are such different people now. He had a huge chip on his shoulders when I first met him and the last time I was in town a couple of months ago he was yackin’ away about all their plans for the house and yard. And couldn’t stop thanking me for the help.
It may not be a perfect system, but it does work in the right situation. It’s not for everyone (wrappees and wrappers) but for those that do it with integrity do a good job.
Location is always important as you wouldn’t buy just because it was 15k and only the prospect if a handful of people every in the rental market. So now location is important for a different reason.
Price – well my last 3 deals were $72k, 55k and 60k now renting for $153 (wrap), $130 and $140 pw. The money goes into an account seperate to my regular banking and the mortgages come out of the same account and I just have a look at them to see all is OK, doesn’t cost me to have them.
If I have only $90 000 to spend I would look for property of such value only which is rare to find and possibly in the middle of nowhere.
Do you have $90k to spend or can you only borrow $90k?
Our properties aren’t in the middle of nowhere (exactly) in the middle of Melbourne and Adelaide actually, so location isn’t important from the point of view that you can just drive by to have a ook at it, like if it was in teh area you live.
Thanks for
signing my book that I bought at the seminar and my husband still refuses to read it.
I can’t remember if I read it here or somewhere else but if you want your hubby to read the book pick a chapter that is profound for your situation and say tohim, babe (insert your cutesy word here), I don’t understand this part would you have a look and help me. They can’t help themselves – ah a damsle in distress.
Why don’t you do both, buy Central Coast now and wait for that elusive Northern Beaches property.
But I am sure that even the Central Coast will be neg geared, so my real advice to you is that it depends on what your goal is. Take some time to learn about your investing options then when you are confident to answer that question yourself you will make the right choice. Don’t forget that you need to have an investing plan.
Deals exist everywhere, you (we) just have to learn how to spot them.
There are also lots of resources available to you form this site and others. the web links page is very helpful, check it out.
I for one hate the lack of info, if you are going to have and use such a powerful resource use it well.
Quick story:
We just sold our house before xmas and had the best agent in the world. We had professional photography inc. an interactive floor plan and the copy made me want to buy it. All land size info was included as well as a brief area description.
We sold our house exactly 2 weeks from signing the agency agreement – the first week was getting everything like advertising ready.
Now we are trying to buy a house in Sydney while we live in Melb and the web sites are sending me crazy, and the agents aren’t much better when you call … um I don’t really know what size the land is[8] What do you mean you don’t know-aaggghh!
The End
Personally one of my criteria is land size, as I intend to build a second rental on most of my properties in the future.
Turn that frown upside down and remember you can’t please all the people all of the time. Soon enough they will rent somewhere else and discover what a great landlord they had in you.
Might I suggest though that you find out what it is that “They” want – did they ask for a bigger hot water system, or would some movie tickets have greater value to them or an air con etc.
Just because the HWS adds value to your property doesn’t mean it will have the same value to someone who has got hotwater anyway!
Just some food for thought and keep up the compassion that you have demonstrated.
Hubby and I have got a Hybrid Trust with a Corporate Trustee, which provides the maximum assest protection available. Why do we need to the maximum protection – why not!
It cost us $2700 to set up the Trust and the Company including all other costs such as the accountant, stamp duty etc.
Our research included first buying Steve’s Wealth Guardian, it is my personal opinion that this is without a doubt the best book to buy to understand how investing works in relation to all of your structure options. Then we got Trust Magic by Dale Gatherum Goss (he is also our accountant) and it really tells the full story about trusts. It can be purchased via the link rovided by Melbear or the Property Investor Magazine. We also went to a talk being given by Dale discussing Trusts.
Who know’s why the writer of that article reported that way, it was possibly the people he/she interviewed, lack of research, maybe they were not in a position invest and therefore could not see the benefits of a trust. But it certainly does not fit with the research that we have done onthe subject.
We are expecting to have higher accounting fees this year only because we have got a lot more work for him than before with 4 new properties and the Trust, but as Dale told us the better our recordeds the less work he has to do and the less our fees.