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    Discretionary trusts are generally dont pay tax if the income is distriuted but if it is not then the trustee will pay tax at the top rate.

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    Nope. No minimum time listed in law. As long as the property becomes your main residence this section should apply – as long as the other requirements are met.

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    Best to get a valuation to avoid arguments about amount.

    You need to consider deductibility of interest for the purchaser’s loan on the new share and you also need to consider the stamp duty and CGT issues. Don’t forget estate planning such as wills, loss of capacity etc.

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    If your funds are in the offset account you can just withdraw then and the interest on the loan will increase. Providing this loan relates to the purchase of the property the extra interest would be deductible once that PPOR becomes available to rent.

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    CGT won’t apply for something like this as the property will be treated as trading stock. It would be good if you could hold on for a while so you could get CGT applied. The max tax rate would then be 24.5% or so, but this could be much lower. Consider utilising a trust too. Not necessarily the property owned by the trustee though.

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    s 118-145 ITAA 1997

    True in certain instances.

    If you rent the house out first it will always be subject to CGT – but the effect will be small if any.

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    Spousal loans and/or related party loans can work well for asset protection and tax savings.

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    Pete – good points but you have mixed a few things up. Gifts can be attacked even if they are made before death. This is especially the case with elderly. There are many ways to attack such a gift under the laws of equity. There is also the NSW law of notional estate orders under the Family Provision section of the Succession act. Any undermarket value transfer could be attacked if the transfer occured within 3 years of death. NSW law can apply to people living in other states if they have a connection to NSW.

    A gift also doesn’t necesarily mean a life interest. These are 2 separate things. A person can give another person a right to reside in a property until their death (life interest), but they are not directly connected (to the gifting).

    Nothing much is iron clad unless you sell the property and spend the money.

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    Also, I just read that it is possible when I refinance the current PPOR I can make the loan larger and use the cash for other things, which I didn’t realise (I have a fair bit of equity in this loan).

    How would this impact on the capital gains tax scenario?

    That would not result in any tax savings at all. It is NOT possible to increase the loan and claim the interest.

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    Hi Terry,

    I’m just curious to know, how is the St George portfolio loan an unfavourable choice for investing in property from a taxation point of view? I’m guessing that as long as the equity is used to invest, the interest accrued can always be tax-deductible, even if the loan is secured against one’s own PPOR?

    Phil

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    The Portfolio loan is a great product, but it can be a disaster if used a certain way. Some advocate crossing several properties to get one big portilo and this can ruin retirement if a property is sold as the lender may use the funds from the sale to reduce overall debt with the bank. but the main issue is if you are using the LOC as a transaction account. Money going in and out and that could mean a large debt but none of it deductible. There is no possibility of an offset on the Portfolio (i think).

    Best to avoid LOCS for the main loan and only use them to access equity.

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    I have only ever seen a handful of people go bankrupt. Asset protection on death is more important than life because the risk is larger that your assets will fall into places you had not intended.

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    You should seek legal advice as there are many issues

    4. asset protection, estate planning, succession, bankruptcy, divorce, taxation
    5. income tax from rent and/or capital gains tax
    6. future creditors of yourself/your mum. other family members. spouses.

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    More than one caveat can be listed on a property. I seen one once with about 8 listed. Caveats are not a form of security itself, but notice to the world that somone has a non legal interest in the property. Generally first in gets priority over later registered caveats.

    Not sure how she could ‘patent’ a system. Years ago a lawyer tried to patent a trust strategy and failed. Vesty is just a name.

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    1. Trusts are legal relationships – see a lawyer. Only lawyers can set them up, especailly in WA – there is caselaw on this. If the property is in NSW think about trusts very carefully.

    2. I have purchased many – but you are taking a gamble as you won’t see who is next door for example

    3. Look on loan documents if there is more than 1 security then they are crossed. Best to uncross before going ahead.

    4. Yes with spouses one can be on title and both on loans or both on title. But what by inn both names? It can hold you back. If he is self employed with no income having him on the loan is pointless from a servicing point of view and it just doubles the risk too.

    5. Plan ownership structure and loan struction. Buying in one name could allow the 2nd person to be clean for the next one.

    6 learn more.

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    Hi Terry,

    Thanks for your reply.
    1. The property is in Queensland, so it will be under Qld stamp duty rules.
    2. The property is worth around $800k. If she gifts me $800k to buy the property, what are the tax implications for the cash loan?
    3. There are no social security issues. She is not entitled to the pension or anything.
    4. How do I establish no undue influence. If she goes to her own solicitor (on her own, with no one else with her) is that satisfactory?
    5. The tax issues of me renting it later is not an issue for me.

    6. “It might be better for you to buy off her at full market value, borrowing to do so, and she can gift you the cash.” Why do you say that??

    1. ok
    2. loan? loans generally attract interest. Interest received is income. If it is a gift then it is not a loan. No taxes on gifts.
    3. ok
    4. that is a start, Many other legal issues to consider
    5. it could be an issue many years from now. circumstances chage
    6. asset protection for 1 thing

    You really should get some legal advice as there is a lot you don’t know you don’t know.
    6

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    There is no stamp duty or CGT on transfer to a beneficiary under a will or intestacy laws.

    There are also many other advantages to passing via a will.

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    I had 4 separate IP loans with Comm. When I refinanced all the loans came back with every property listed on it. I told the broker (from the bank) that I did not want them crossed. She assured me they weren’t. HELLO!! It says so on the paperwork.
    I refused to sign them. She had to go back and change them so each loan onl had one property listed as security.

    They do try it on. Read EVERYTHING carefully.

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    good thing you know what to look for. Most people have no idea and get ‘stiched up’!

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    Heaps of issues. You should both see separate lawyers.

    Gifts of real property attract stamp duty (unless via a will). If you will be renting it out there are tax issues. It might be better for you to buy off her at full market value, borrowing to do so, and she can gift you the cash.

    Social security issues if she is on the pension. Deeming provisions means she will be assessed on any gift for 5 years – as if she still owned the item and was receiving income from it.

    heaps of other legal issues – undue influence etc.

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    Tracey, no worries, the more the merrier.

    Terry, many thanks much appreciated. I will contact you trough your company.
    err.. which one do you prefer, the Loan Experts or the Property Tax Solutions, please?

    Thanks,
    Catts

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    Depends what you are after. Setting up companies is legal advice – my law firm http://www.finlaw.com.au. The Loan Experts Pty Ltd is a mortgage broking firm.

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    If the company is controlled by the members of the superfund then no the SMSF couldn’t acquire residential property owned by the fund – only business real property.

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