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    3. No, trusts will only pay tax if the income is not distributed. If there is a loss it will be carried forward

    It is still possible – but many things to consider – structure of the trust, structure of trustee, land tax, type of loan to the trust etc etc

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    Sounds good Richard

    If Richard’s system is not for you then you could possibly get your mum to repay you what you have lent her (will only work if she was paying extra off the loan). Get the loan done and then you could gift or lend back to mum. Another option is for a family pledge type loan.

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    Read the contract carefully – not necessarily locked in as many things can happen such as death and bankruptcy, more problems with the building can arise too, others can also make claims on the property and take priority. The longer the settlement the more the risk of these things happening.

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    What state?

    Seek legal advice as generally stamp duty payable again as it could be considered a subsale. In VIC perhaps not.

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    intention. A mere transfer is not a loan. You need to carefully document whether the transfer is a loan or a gift etc. Loan agreements can be oral, but for tax reasons they should be in writing – and other reasons too.

    You can claim depreciation against the income that is generated from the asset. If this results in a loss it can be used to offset other income, including trust income that you receive personally.

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    1. Not to you. It could be deductible to the trust if you are on lending. If you are just paying the trust’s loan it won’t be deductible at all.

    2. No. You dont own the property so cannot claim depreciation. The trust could claim depreciation.
    If you are living overseas who is the trustee of the trust? If a company is there a resident director? If no company and you are trustee you may have a foreign trust for tax purposes. Better get some advice on this as foreign trusts are taxed differently and you could be breaching the corporations act

    3.Think carefully about structuring the ownership and structuring the loans, well before entering a contract.

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    I doubt you will find a lender willing to allow you to go on the mortgage or guarantee the loan if you are not on title to the property.

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    In Vict it is possible. s44 Duties act from memory. Not in other states.

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    Is that right?

    Nope.

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    Yes, possible.

    Change of owner means new loan applications.

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    Could you briefly explain how to limit the risk please terry.

    A very simple strategy is to have just 1 director and make sure the non director provides no personal guarantees. This may not always work due to servicing, but it would still be a good idea not to have 2 directors, but allow the other non director to give a guarantee. the non director would be liable to the bank, but not to others such as trade creditors, builders, ato etc.

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    That is one way to do it, but it may or may not be a good idea – you need some legal advice.

    That is one way to do it, but it may or may not be a good idea – you need some legal advice.

    If the development fails you will both go down with the company.

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    thanks Terry, are you sayiing for me (A) to lend my partner (B) allowing her to purchase the developments site?

    That is one way to do it, but it may or may not be a good idea – you need some legal advice.

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    If the purchaser has not taken a caveat then you may be able to get finance using both properties as security – depends on what you have agreed to. If servicing is an issue then you may be able to use bridging finance as well.

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    Think about tax and asset protection. You should never develop with your own money because of the risks involved. You could consider setting up 2 separate structures with A lending to B with A taking a first mortgage over property owned by B. This would allow you to avoid banks but also provide good asset protection if things go wrong. It may also provide tax advantages on several fronts.

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    Are there any “portable” homes in the area people want to dispose of (ie give away – most give them away but you have to pay for transport), depending on your CGT liability, if someone was to dump an old house on the land, check what services you have to have connected (living without grid connected electricity isnt illegal is it?), move into it and sell the block… you may get lucky and find someone who will take it with the house, otherwise you may have to pay to have it dismantled and disposed of… if you CGT liability is 50k it wouldnt be worth it as that stuff isnt exacly cheap even for one of those houses, if it was 500k this strategy would save you the cost of a house (literally!)… obviously you would have to do enough to “prove” to the ATO that you actually lived in it if they came snooping… just an idea though.

    But this would not backdate the exemption to the date of purchase, but from now onwards. Would also need an occupation certificate to be considered a residence – probably.

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    Don’t forget the 50% CGT discount

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    Look for Vendorfinancelawyer.com.au or google Tony Cordato

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    There are many grounds under which you could pull out. The contract may be defective for example or a condition may not be complied with. Seek legal advice.

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    What if someone slipped and injured themselves? The vendors would be exposing themselves necessarily.

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