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Yes there are proeprties with a twist out there in Sydney, very small units near CBD for about $130,000 that rent for about $250pw. But they are so small it is hard to get finance.
But it is also possible to get ‘normal’ properties which you can make positive geared.
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Australian and USA would have a double tax agreement, so there would not be double taxing. Any income tax paid over there would be taken into account.
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Is the house intended to be an investment property? If so, I think there was a tax ruling or tax determination on this that said deductions were possible.
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Trusts are worth looking at in my opinion. But don’t overkill. I have seen people spend thousands on elaborate structures to save tax, when they don’t make any money!.
A trust can cost as little as $137 to set up and nothing to run. If you are just buying properties, the tax return is easy, and you could do it yourself if necessary.
Trusts can be used for negative gearing. A hyrbid trust is used with units owned by the high income earner who then borrows to buy these units. The money isn’t gifted to the trust (otherwise you couldn’t claim the interest). These can cause more problems when borrowing if you have a company as trustee. Due to the fact the house will be in the company name, but the loan must be in the individual’s name.
There are many different types of trust such as service trusts, testamentary trusts, superannuation trusts etc. But the two main ones are unit and Discretionary. Unit trusts are not safe when it comes to asset protection as the units are owned and can therefore be at risk. Hybrid trusts are therefore not as safe as discretionay.
SG, get another opinion from a different accountant. Most do not understand trusts.
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You had better get some advice. It may be possible to sell the unit CGT free. You could then use the proceeds to pay down the loan on your new main residence, saving interest. Then you could borrow to buy further investments with tax benefits.
You have to weigh up the costs of selling with the costs in extra tax etc of owning the flat as is.
If she really wants to keep, you could do both sell and keep by selling it to a trust you control.
Talk to a tax advisor.
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I get these figs:
After 5 years, ppty worth $161,051
less purchase costs and selling cost = $51,220 capital gainAfter CGT, this becomes a profit of $38,800.
The property would probably be cashflow neutral but negatively geared, so maybe a bit of tax would have been saved during this time as well. If rents increased with inflation, maybe a small profit would emerge.
So for a cash outlay of $nil, the person made $38,800 after tax in 5 years.
Not bad, but SIS made this in 6 months!
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Sold negaitve geared proeprty to buy ‘cashflow positive’ properties. I would have made far much more by holding on.Terryw
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Well done!
So have you finished the Advanced diploma now?
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Last year at least 2 of our clients had found postive geared properties in Sydney. You just have to look for something with a twist.
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also consider http://www.gatherumgoss.com
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I think you will only be allowed to have a loan at the same amount or less than before and no more than the previous LVR. Any increase will result in a retesting of serviceability.
You may not have to settle on the same day for the sale and purchase. The sale can settle first with the bank holding the loan open for up to 3 months – depending on the bank’s policy.
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I have seen a few clients do this, but only between spouses. It can be done when there is a court order, on separation – without stamp duty and CGT. In NSW and Vic, it is also possible for spouses to transfer to each other for $1 stamp duty. I don’t know, or think, it would be possible with other family members.
It can help when one of a couple has credit problems which would result in a much higher interest rate. A transfer is done into the person with the clean record. They then get the loan at normal rates.
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Originally posted by The Mortgage Adviser:How can the ATO slug you for renovating your PPOR and selling before buying another if you live in each property while renovating?
Robert Bou-Hamdan
Mortgage AdviserIf they think you are doing it as a business, they can. It would depend on how many times you h ave done it and how quickly, and possibly the reasons you give.
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Just think long term. Having properties in your husband’s name may save you a bit of tax now, but these properties will become positive geared eventually, and if he is on the top bracket…..half will disappear. Also what would happen if you had to sell one of these? He would have to wear the capital gain on top of other income. Having a trust can help minimise this.
Insurance is good, but what if you go bankrupt? Trust assets may be safe.
There are also estate planning benefits with a trust. this could save your estate CGT and stamp duty fees.
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And, don’t quit your job too soon. It makes it harder to get finance without a job.
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Originally posted by Damo:Thanks for your encouragement Eric,
Sorry about the confusion, by multiple PPOR I meant, I would buy one as my PPOR and then sell it to buy my next PPOR, otherwise I would be slugged for CGT.
Damo.
The ATo can still slug you with CGT if they think you are in the busines of doing this. It would take then a while to realise this though!
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What a challenge. Good luck with it all and keep us posted.
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Principle Place of Residence.
The only way to avoid CGT is to make a house your PPOR. If you then move out and rent it, you can still claim it as your PPOR for up to 6 years. If you sell during this period it will be CGT free. You can only claim one PPOR (per couple), except for a period of 6 months when you may count two.
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http://www.bantacs.com.au is located up there somewhere (??)
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I do not like country towns myself. Some people have made good capital growth (eg 100% over the past year) and good cashflow as well. However, good growth in recent years may mean no growth for many years to come.
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