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If you sell within 12 months there is no discount. So the gain less some expenses will be added to your income, and you will pay tax accordingly. Not sure what the % is for $30K.
If you use a company, then the tax rate is 30%. Consider a trust.
If title is in 3 names, then all 3 will have to apply for finance and each will be liable for the whole amount.
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Or, use an independent buyers agent.
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Why not just buy on your own? This is probably a less risky way.
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I think the returns would have to be much higher for a risky business start up.
I have seen investors offering 15% pa for borrowing money for property related investments – relatively safe.
For most businesses I think you should expect more than 100% pa. If you are going to be making that much money, you could afford a hihg return.
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Hi Mike
What if you signed a contract on 29th of June with a subject to finance clause which was only met on the 2nd of July? ie the contract was not unconditional until the new financial year.
When would be the timing of the event?
I am now inclined to think it is the date of the contract still.
Would this be correct?
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I agree with Derek, but more specifically beleive it is actually the date of the contract when the contract goes unconditional. ie you might sign today, but with a subject to finance clause which isn’t satisfied for a week. better check with your accountant to be sure.
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This happened to one of mine in Vic a few years ago. My agent when and got a court order for me that the property had been abondoned by the tenant, and I had the right to enter and take possession. I also was awarded a sum for lost rent etc. Once you have this you can pursue the ex-tenant for these sums. (may have to wait a few years for them to get back on their feet, and then pounce).
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It would probably be cashflow postive, but that does not necessarily make it a good investment.
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Yes, just make sure you have a lease drawn up just in case. make sure everything is in writing.
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You never lose the equity by selling, but you have to look into capital gains tax.
Now it would appear your apartment is exempt. You could probably sell now or within the next 6 years and still claim this exemption. But you can only claim one property at any one time, so if you had a period where you owned 2 properties, you have to chose between the 2 – for the main residence selection.
Better talk to your accountant. It may be wise to get an independent valuation done now.
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With cash you can generally settle much faster, so you could possibly use this as a selling point.
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I have concerns about these sorts of things.
Firstly WA seems to be booming now. Who knows what will happen in 2008. Be prepared for the worst.
2nd, going thirds. Did you know when you go for finance in the future, you will be assessed as owing the whole amount (if there is a loan) but will only be able to take into account 1/3 of the income.
3rd, getting finance for these sorts of things can be very hard
4th possibly hard to sell due to the specialised nature of the market.
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Originally posted by aliandmike:Originally posted by Terryw:Also, probably best to get loans in one name only. ie not with a partner. This will allow you to go further eventually.
Terry, when you say partner, do you mean a business partner or Wife/Husband. My wife and I have 1 IP and our PPOR and are looking around for another IP at the mo. I don’t think I could get a loan in my name only (or my wife’s) due to income restrictions and existing joint debt. Can you please advise of the benefits, and why you can go further (eventually) when in one name only.
Also, my FI encourages cross collatoral in order to borrow 100% for new property, why is this a bad idea?
Thanks for your input
MikeHi Mike
The others have answered your question on cross collateralisation. I now think it is not such a bad thing, but best to avoid if possible.
I have seen a lot of clients come to me after buying bits of various properties with partners. The trouble with this is the lender assesses you on the whole debt, but only allows you to take into account the income on the percentage you own. This can hurt!
What I had in mind mainly however, is people getting low doc loans. Most lenders had a maximum exposure level per person. This used to be rather low, but now is around $2.5mil. So getting loans jointly meant you reached the limit quickly.
So where possible, where income allows it, get the loan in single names. eg. a couple with one person working, one person staying at home. Why have the loan in joint names if the second person has no income? Keep them free for a possible low doc/no doc down the track.
it also makes no sense from an asset protection point of view.
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hi Stuck
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or $275 at lawcentral.unit trusts are a bit more. Bare trusts are available on Law Central, but you could easily set one up yourself.
Hybrids are not available on these sites. Set up is about $1200
Online they can be estalished in 5 min.
Please join lawcentral and go thru the process of setting up a trust – no cost unless you want to proceed to the end.
BUT, if you are unsure, then you should probably go through an accountant to set up your trust initially. costs about $1000+
Process:
1) get the trust deed online or from accountant
2) sign it, with witnesses
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4) Pay stamp duty ($200 in NSW, Nil in QLD)
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The postcode won’t be a problem with the majority of lenders as mortgage insurer PMI will lend up to 100% there (for full doc up to $400,000) and even 80% LVR there for a low doc loan up to $500,000
see
http://www.pmigroup.com.au/LocationWizard.aspIf you have enough equity, you should be able to capitalise interest
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On some fixed loans, there are penalties for paying extra over a certain amount.
Also, many fixed loans do not allow a 100% offset account to be linked.
One more point for variable is, what if you want to change lenders mid way through a fixed loans? Maybe to be able to borrow more money for a new ppty. If you have fixed, there could be large exit fees.
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You have to make a choice on how you feel the market for rates is going to go.
I myself never fix anymore. I was stuck once when I fixed, and then sold a property. Rates had moved, and I had a huge exit fee as a result.
variable is more flexible – what if you want to increase your loan in a years time and your lender won’t lend. You may want to move to a different lender. If you have fixed, then it may be costly to exit.
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If the mum has no property, what about buying in her name? That way when sold, there will be no CGT. Check with an accountant on what effect this will have on her pension etc.
I beleive a 12 year old could own property, but cannot get a loan. Not sure of the tax implications tho. Children are generally tax at around 66% on income above a certain amount (approx $800 pa). So if the child does not live there the ppty may be subject to CGT. Again, better talk to an accountant about this.
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There is nothing much to it. Just keep all loans separate (not cross col) and gradually increase the loans as the values rise. Use the increase for the deposit on the next one.
Also, probably best to get loans in one name only. ie not with a partner. This will allow you to go further eventually.
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I am based in Sydney, but am currently in Bangkok. If you send me some details, I can work it out for you.
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