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    NM,

    I wouldn't like to say too much public, but you could have utilised a dsicretionary trust and possibly a post death testamentary discretionary trust depending on the circumstances.

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    Terryw wrote:
    Perfect structure NM. Can't get much better than that.

    Hi NM

    I just read your other post about the inheritance. You could have structured this much better by utlisiing some asset protection techniques and could have possibly set it up more tax effective too. Still doing well though.

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    hi Karl

    A LOC is no good for a normal loan. In fact it can be very very bad if you were to use one on your home and to later rent it out.

    What is ideal is this:

    $100,000 home

    $80,000 loan. This can be IO or PI with 100% offset account. All rents and incomes go into this account.

    After your home grows in value:
    $200,000 home value
    original loan is $80,000
    now you can set up a LOC for $80,000

    You must never use this LOC unless it is for a new investment property.
     you buy a $100,000 IP
    Loan is $80,000 interest only with the remaining $20,000 and stamp duty etc costs coming from the LOC.

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    Perfect structure NM. Can't get much better than that.

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    Many tax issues with LOCs. You should avoid them for general use and only use then to access equity for further investments.

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    The main reason is that you should pay off nondeductible debt first – ie home you are living in. If this is paid off you could use IO or PI for investments. using IO could help spread your investments more though.

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    It should be just a mathemetical calculation in that case???? Which is larger 0.05% of the loan or $395?

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    Yes,  the Fin planner has admitted he got it wrong again! 2 things wrong with the one client. That could have been very costly!

    Thanks Mike,

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    ATO has a new online 'calculator' on GST
    https://expertsystems.ato.gov.au/scripts/net/GSTProperty/Introduction/GSTPropertyIntro.aspx?Task=da80fe99-4af2-4f1c-87e8-e0c361999fb6&NavGraph=Home&View=HomeView&PID=68&ms=Tax%20Professionals

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    You could get hte package fee waived and then go back later and complain about the high interest rate!

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    Refinancing won't help with CGT though

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    trevj wrote:
    Hi,
    Currently have IP in my name with significant capital gain.The wife has significant share losses in her name.
    Is there anything i can do to offset the gains with the losses ?
    I believe i can  transfer the IP to my wifes name with no stamp duty but when this occurs does a CGT "event" occur at this point in time so that i would have to pay the CGT.
    Medium term i will be selling this to fund house construction in Mt Waverley

    cheers
    Trev

    If only the house was owned in a discretionary trust!

    Transferring to wife would be a CGT event. In VIC it could be stamp duty exempt though.

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    This is the date for that the land tax in NSW is calculated on. So buying on 1 Jan instead can mean you have 1 year without having to pay.

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    New year.

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    Anthony, Yes read that ruling and it makes it clear that it woudn't be possible.

    I am surprised that this Fin planner put it in writing in his statement of advice even though it is clearly prohibited. he didn't know about that ruling it seems.

    He has also suggested that my friend use the recontribution strategy to bring down the taxable component of his super. This is a good strategy as he has no tax dependants so his adult children will pay tax on any taxable component of his super that they receive as death benefits.

    But the fin planner is suggesting he contribute $450,000 in one year by bring forward 3 years of $150,000. However my mate is over 65 so I beleive the bring forward part is not available and he will be limited to $150,000 pa while still working and under 75. Excess constributions  can have serious consequences. excess can be taxed at 46.5%! $300,000 x 46.5% = a lot.

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    Boney

    Don't forget to make sure you set up good wills – both and wife. Consider who you would want to be guardian of your children if you were to both die before they reach 18.

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    Business names are different to trusts. A name is not a legal entity and is really just a name. eg you can trade as ris4rob if you register this name – but the entity will be yourself. or you could set up a company ALB Pty Ltd and have this trade as ris4rob.

    There are many issues surrounding structures with lots to consider. What you may be referring to is to set up a company and then have this act as trustee for a trust. This will not help you increase borrowing power, but should be looked into for other reasons.

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    Hi Anthony,

    Yep, was referring to s 66(3).

    I was just wondering because I have a friend who leases a land and has constructed a commercial builidng on it. A fin planner had suggested he sell building to his SMSF (but not the land). I pointed out that this would breach s66 and the business real property exemption wouldn't apply (lease cannot be transferred).

    However if he were to transfer the building to a unit trust and then later redeem and issue units then i think s66(3) would prevent this.

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    Thanks Anthony. Very interesting. Do you think the ss3 about entering into a scheme could apply?

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    I don't know much about super, but am slowly learning more.

    a SMSF is generally prohibited from acquiring assets from a related party. A trust or a company would be a related party. There is an exemption at s66 SIS Act for the transfer of business real property – but this would only apply to non residential property.

    I have heard a strategy of buying in a unit trust and then transferring the units over to your SMSF on retirement, but think now that his will be caught by the restrictions.

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