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    I wouldn't do it like that myself.
    You would be borrowing to pay the interest on line 1. Although you would be putting the rent into loan 2 there would still be a shortfall – probably.

    Have a read of TD 2012/1
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    Get tax advice before you act on your structure.

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    Think it logically thru.

    If you take th $60k out of the offset what will happen?

    A: Your interest on the home loan will increase by about $4,200 per year. This won't be deductible because it relates to non deductible loan expenses.

    Q: If you were to pay $60k off the loan and then reborrow it?
    A: If the new borrowings were used for investment purposes then you could claim the interest.
    Approx $4,200 in extra tax deductions. Approx $1953 saved in tax if on the top tax rate. This is each year too. Imagine how much sooner you could pay off your home loan with this?

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    Taking money out of redraw = new borrowings. So the interest on this will only be deductible if the redrawn money was used for investment purposes.

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    Yep, FHOG would require you live in the place at sometime during the first 12 months and stay for at least 6months.

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    Hi Nick

    this must have been what you were requiring the PI insurance for?? I paid around $800 from memory.

    Where are you located?

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    PI Insurance for what? Lawyers pay about $8k plus pa. Mortgage brokers about $800 but it all depends.

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    When you have money in the offset and are buying your second property you need to reassess at that time.

    Ideally you would want to keep your money in the offset and borrow the lot to buy the second IP. But you may not have enough equity at that stage. So you could either
    1. use the cash in the offset or
    2. pay down the existing loan and reborrow it.

    2 may be preferrable if you were going to move back into the first property at some stage.

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    Oh, sorry, yes with a SMSF you can restricted and cannot borrow against a property more than once – they can only borrow to acquire a single asset.

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    Qualifying for finance may be an issue – you may be classed as an owner builder.

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    1. The legilsation doesn't have a time limit, so basically as long as you can establish that it is your main residence you should qualify.

    2. Best not to pay off principle but to put extra in the offset. It should save the same interest (unless u r tempted to spend). If you pay down principle then you will be paying more interest if you need to buy a new house to live in – your funds would be tied up and you would need to borrow more.

    4. No, you can borrow against equity in the first to buy the second.

    Yes, you are generally right on track, but you could tweat the strategy a bit to improve it. Paying down debt is good – but could lead to tax complications later.

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    Move in. move out.

    under s118-145 ITAA 1997 a person can be absent from their main residence yet still count it as their main residence for it to be CGT exempt for up to 6 years. To get the full exemption you need to live in the house initially and establish it as your main residence. You can then rent it out and claim all associated costs – yet still retain the CGT exemption.

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    Watch out for finance issues.
     

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    Hi Dru

    Why not
    1. Buy a place to live in and then rent it out. You can retain its CGT free status for up to 6 years. CGT could be considerable if you are sucessfull in adding value so it may be worth the hassle of moving in and out.

    3. Def do the IO with offset. But, you say you want to pay down the principle of the second one – this is not adviseable as if you were later to buy a property to live in again then your cash would be tied up.

    4. Yes, good idea. The only problem with super is that the equity in the properties cannot be used. ie you cannot borrow against the first one for the second. But it is still a good strategy as the properties can be CGT and income tax free once you hit pension phase or meet a condition of release. Super is also a great asset protection vehicle and generally falls outside your estate and there are tax benefits to your depenants if you were to die too.

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    You would have to add up all the expenses and see if these are less than the rent. If rent exceeds expenses then it would be cashflow positive.

    If you had $100k in the offset you would be saving around $6,500 in interest pa so it probably would be cashflow positive.. But if you removed the money it may turn into negative.

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    What will your income be like when you are not working?

    If might be better to open a savings account in your own name and earn some tax free interest and let your husband save more tax on the negative gearing – but this will depend on the savings rate.

    I seen one on TV tonite which was around 6.01% at call for the first 4 months with Rabo bank.

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    Which do you think will show greater capital growth?

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    me too

    Lots of spam on this site.

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    Summary
    1. Never deposit funds into a loan
    2. Use IO loan with 100% offet

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    My impression is that Cintaku wants to buy a holiday house but still claim all associated costs with it.

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    You would get getting a 6.5% approx return if you use the offset
    v
    4.5% approx in a savings account.

    Are both names on title for the IP? Does one spouse have very low income?

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