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    Prob about $200 just for a contract – plus disbursements such as title searches, council docs etc.

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    If partner very adverse to risk then one option is to set up separate SMSFs and to use your fund to purchase and to select a lender which does not require a personal guarantee. I dont' think you can really get safer than that.

    Another option is to use a discretionary trust and to keep your partner out of giving guarantees or going on the loan etc. Even one in your own name. This way if something does go wrong then only yourself would be at risk.

    Both owners of the existing house would have to go on the LOC secured over that property however.

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    New residential too – first 5 years after becoming new.

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    Many trusts offer these same advantages.

    For example to avoid vesting, just set up a company trustee and trust in South Australia. Wait 80 years and see if it works.

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    2. Yes, if you are using a proeprty as security the lender will take a mortgage over it.

    2. Yes, the lenders will want to tie you up as much as possible.

    Because of your ages you should consider using a SMSF to invest. This will enable future CGs and income to be tax free.

    You may be able to set up a LOC and to onlend to your SMSF if you don't have enough funds in it (with careful advice) or you could use the LOC as deposit for future property in you own names or via a trust etc.

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    Income tax and GST.

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    It would include the interest up to the day of settlement.

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    New means up to 5 years old. So if you construct and rent it for 4 years and then sell GST may still apply to the sale.

    The substantially bit isn't defined in the GST Act, but there is an ATO ruling which outlines their view.

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    Yes.

    GST generally applies to the sale of residential property if they are 'new' and this includes substantially renovated property.

    But the developer will be able to claim GST paid out on materials.

    They may also be able to use the margin scheme which will enable GST to be reduced by only charging it on a portion of the sale price.

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    eclz4 wrote:

     

    I would have thought the balance of the loan would be $301K + the principal component of the Aug repayment + settlement fees as the $301K already have the Aug component.

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    No, it wouldn't include principle as as this th $301,000 that you are paying back. But it would include interest.

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    I am not sure how it works out without seeing statements, but I suggest you speak to the complaints section there. This sort of thing happens with every lender and they all have a special team to look into these things

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    Beneficiaries get sued all the time. But if the trustee gets sued then it won't affect the beneficiaries.

    I think you need to seek some legal and tax advice about your particular set up as there are many other issues to address.

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    before tax

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    $1500 pw = $78,000 pa

    To get $78,000 pa on a rental yield of 4%:

    = $78,000/0.04

    = $1,950,000

    So you would need about $2 million worth of unencumbered property to get $78,000 before tax if you were getting a yield of 4% after paying costs.

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    I haven't heard of anything, but I am based in NSW so that doesn't mean much!

    In NSW stamp duty is due to be abolished on the transfer of units in unit trusts and shares in private companies from next july. Maybe it was this you thinking of?? Abolishing stamp duty will be a huge revenue loss for the govt so hard to see it happening.

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    Yes, don't have a trading company as trustee.

    You could have two trusts with separate trustees. One trust could own the assets and one trade. This is what they call a service trust and it is a way to divert profit from teh trading trust which is higher risk of being used. The trading trust would pay the service trust a fee for the use of the assets and this would be a deduction to the trading trust. This would divert income to the second trust, the service trust which would then use it to offset the deductions from depreciation.

    I

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    Gee that is very high.

    I could put you onto someone who could more than halve your bill.

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    Zabeel01 wrote:
    The position I would ultimately like to be in one where we can continue to offset our business income with our depreciating assets and also have the assets protected from being sued, we have not been sued or anything but the way some people have dealt with us we feel we need to protect ourselves.

    Re: the current claw back laws, would this be a vulnerability only if we were sued before we changed from Partnership to Company or Trust??

    Still not sure what you mean about offsetting business income. But a trust earning $100,000 in income with a $20,000 deduction for depreciation will result in an income of $80,000. So instead of getting $100,000 income to distribute you have $80,000 hence you have still reduced your income of the business.

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    Re: the current claw back laws, would this be a vulnerability only if we were sued before we changed from Partnership to Company or Trust??

    This would depend how you do it.

    If you transfer for under market value or reduced consideration then the claimback period is 4.5 years from memory. But if you do it with the intention to put the assets out of the reach of creditors – such as for asset protection reasons – then there is no limit on the clawback period.

    You also have to consider the practical side of things. Is a trustee in bankruptcy going to come after you for this at all in say 6 years for a transaction that was valued at say $50k?

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    Zabeel01 wrote:
    Plus I have recently taken over a new property with assets which I will declare this tax year as depreciating for the first time so if I were to add these for the first time to a trust or company I am assuming there would be no transfer / stamp duty??? Is this correct, 

    Incorrect

    You seem to be focused on depreciation. Depreciation has nothing directly to do with stamp duty it is merely writing down the value of an asset and getting a deduction for this loss.

    If you transfer land from yourself to a trust then this will be subject to stamp duty. Stamp duty is calculated for land on the value of the land and the house on it.

    Zabeel01 wrote:
    plus the assets we lost in the flood, and no longer have, is there a way of still claiming what was owed even though we will have closed the partnership and no longer have these assets to transfer to the new company / trust?

    If you have lost assets that are claimable then I think you can write these off immediately by claiming hte remaining decpreciation – check with your accountant

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    Zabeel01 wrote:
    Also in regards to transferring assets into a company  or trust from a partnership, which are already depreciating, would I still have to pay stamp duty for these?

    This wold depend on which state the assets are in and what assets they are.

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