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    Is this a coincidence? Two Jamies in a threat with one posting about passing go and the other running a company incorporating 'pass go".

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    wilko1 wrote:
    Terry could you give a example of how having 2 or more directors all giving personal guarantees would hurt serviceability moving forward.

    Am i wrong in thinking. Person A, B and C have signed personal guarantees. Net loans in the trust 1.5 million all for investment purposes. Person A then wants to go off and buy their own PPOR or do their own individual borrowing in another trust or in their own personal name. Their income is only 75k but the group total income was 250k.

    Does this then mean that if your using the same bank they will say… You have given a personal guarantee for 1.5 million your income of 75,000 is not enough to service any future loans.

    Is this avoided by going to another bank. Cant remember i have ever been asked if i have given a personal guarantee for another trust

    thanks wilko

    Hi wilko

    I was thinking along the lines of esch guarsntor beingnliable for the whole debt they have guaranteed. So if a b and c guarantee a $1mil loan by a trustee then if a went to borrow for something in his own name then he would be assessed as having $1mil in debt.

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    TheFinanceShop wrote:
    No lender will accept capital gains as taxable income for servicing unless (and this is a maybe not a certainty) you can seriously show that the capital gains is repetitive. By this I mean you need to show the lender a history (minimum of 2 years) capital gains income, you need to show that you are full time in this profession (i.e. a property developer) and provide a stack of further information from the accountant justifying it. It is an incredibly hard sell. 

    Documentation is dependent on the credit assessor but the accountant would need to a) confirm the nature of the business b) confirm that the business operates as a developer and the income is distributed via the trust entity c)  the CG income is consist for the past 5 years as it is their primary source of business income.

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    Shahin

    If this was the case it is unlikely that the income is trested as a capital gain.

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    If you or a related entity is declaring profits on capital account it is likely to be treated one off. Even when using a discretionary trust the income would flow thru as a capital gain usually.

    If you are trading or treating the sales on the revenue account then you are unlikely to be treated as a residential customer and more likely to be a commercial loan client

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    Sounds like you have borrowed money to invest in a non interest bearing savings account. Dangerous

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    I agree with richard and alistair above. Must have enough income in the trust and remaining directors to service and thrn get the loan redone. Income of trust can be taken into account. But if it is one off capital gains from the sale of property then this is unlikely to be considered income for loan servicing.

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    Qlds007 wrote:
    No gets better Terry they had the 2 properties crossed but they told him that even though he had 110% borrowings the loans wouldn't be crossed going forward.

    Must be magic.

    Cheers

    Yours in Finance

     bet they regret it already

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    prob straigt income tax. gst on the sale of new land for first 5 years. may be able to apply margin scheme.

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    it depends on what state the property is in. i am a solicitor and sold a property in tasmania last year, the agent did most of the contract. before i knew it he had a contract prepared and a signature on it so i just countersigned and that was it.

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    and they probably have kept their loans crossed too:-):-)

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    yes this is nothing new. a lot of forum members used to waste the time of brokers trying to work out which lender and how to structure their loans and then trot off to a refund broker. not the sort of client you would want to have anyway.

     this part of the reason why i now charge clients to do their first loan. the other reason is because i also offer my knowledge of tax, law and financial planning skills.

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    s0805 wrote:
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    Hi Terry,

    I had identical situation and had just settled on my first IP. I need your opinion to understand if I've done this right or not. Bank allowed me to borrow $90K as equity of my PPOR as separate loan, when I was settling on $90K loan I advised bank to open new offset account and link it to $90K and put all money into the newly created offset (which they did), same day I wrote a cheque for 10% deposit of IP and given to RE agency's trust account.  Have I done the right thing here?

    Later on, I used rest of the money from this newly created offset on final settlement. Even after the final settlement this account still has 8K. I do not want to keep newly created offset as it is costing me admin fee. I had chat to my Account and he advised that i can park this 8K in to Offset linked to PPOR and when it come TAX time, he can proportionate the 8K amount (which has not used for investment purposes). Do you think it is right thing to do? Is there any better way this situation can be handled

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    S0805

    Strictly speaking what you have done has created a mess. Interest wouldn't be deductible because you borrowed money and placed in a savings account. However ato may not be so strict and may allow the dectiin if you can clearly trace the funds. Mixing borrowed money with not borrowed will result in even more mess. It will cause the original loan to be a mixed purpose loan and any subsequent repayments must come off each portion. Bit of a mess. But interest on $8k will be minimal.

    Hi Terry,

    Thanks for your reply. Just to be clear, I haven't yet mixed my 8K with my home loan offset.

    You've said

    Strictly speaking what you have done has created a mess. Interest wouldn't be deductible because you borrowed money and placed in a savings account. However ato may not be so strict and may allow the dectiin if you can clearly trace the funds.

    I quite don't understand this, I understand that I borrowed money and place it savings account(offset), but this was brand new offset account created on the same day when 90K was drawn and only linked to this 90K loan, ,on the same day 32K was given to agent and it had 90K-32K sitting in it for 40 days. On 41st day I used the rest of the money from this offset for my final settlement and at the end of that till now it has 8K sitting in it offsetting my 90K initially drawn. These are the only transactions (both transaction for investment purposes) happened on these offset account.  is this still incorrect method?

    Mixing borrowed money with not borrowed will result in even more mess. It will cause the original loan to be a mixed purpose loan and any subsequent repayments must come off each portion.

    I Agree on this 100%. The 8K left on my newly created offset account which is offsetting my 90K loan is my problem now, not really sure where to park this money (as i want to close my offset account) . My Accountant has suggested that we take this 8K and put in my Home Offset and in tax time we'll proportionate (deducting) interest on 8K before filing return.  The only way i see out of this is to leave the offset with 8K open unless you think proportionating 8K interest every year should not be an issue from ATO point of view. I am going to use this 8K in future only & only for investment purposes if the need arises otherwise it will be sitting there for good.

    Apologies if my questions are repetitive, i need to advise my account which way i should progress and i want to get my head around this.

    thanks

    S0805

    Hi s

    This is what you pay your accountant for-advice.

    Whar you did was borrowe money and place it in savings account. Once there it is no longer borriwings.

    The $8k could be redeposited into the loan.

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    s0805 wrote:
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    jmsrachel wrote:
    kat13 wrote:
    We pulled out the equity on our house – 90K which got paid into cash into our offset account until we were ready to get something…but we are also using 30K for personal improvements which is maybe why it was done that way????

    We are currently waiting on preapproval for the rest (not sure how much we can get – but broker indicated up to 400K all up).  

    What should we be doing?  What sort of account do I need to stash it in?

    Can I be a pain and ask where should Kat put the money once the equity is pulled out as cash. Now that I have learnt not to put it in the offset, where do you park it? Or do you wait till you've signed contracts then organise to pull it out?

    You have to be careful to pay the money straight from the loan to the investment without passing through any savings account. So best method is to use a LOC or increase the loan without taking the money and then use a bank cheque to pay the deposit etc.

    Hi Terry,

    I had identical situation and had just settled on my first IP. I need your opinion to understand if I've done this right or not. Bank allowed me to borrow $90K as equity of my PPOR as separate loan, when I was settling on $90K loan I advised bank to open new offset account and link it to $90K and put all money into the newly created offset (which they did), same day I wrote a cheque for 10% deposit of IP and given to RE agency's trust account.  Have I done the right thing here?

    Later on, I used rest of the money from this newly created offset on final settlement. Even after the final settlement this account still has 8K. I do not want to keep newly created offset as it is costing me admin fee. I had chat to my Account and he advised that i can park this 8K in to Offset linked to PPOR and when it come TAX time, he can proportionate the 8K amount (which has not used for investment purposes). Do you think it is right thing to do? Is there any better way this situation can be handled

    thanks

    S0805

     

    Strictly speaking what you have done has created a mess. Interest wouldn’t be deductible because
    you borrowed money and placed in a savings account.

    However ato may not be so strict and may allow the dectiin if you can clearly trace the funds.

    Mixing borrowed money with not borrowed will result in even more mess. It will cause the original loan to be a mixed purpose loan and any subsequent repayments must come off each portion.

    Bit of a mess. But interest on $8k will be minimal.

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    buying with the intention of selling for a profit would not fall under cgt provisions but just ordinary income tax.

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    Hi

    You will need a contract of sale drawn up before the agent can start marketting the property. But I would first talk to some agents to get a feel for the market and what price rhey could achieve. Take 10% off whatever they tell you too.

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    One of my goals is to be legally able to offer advice on 4 main areas of investing
    1 law
    2 financial planning
    3 finance
    4 taxation.

    I plan to open my own law firm and a separate company for financial planning. Aim is first half of 2013

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    There are heaps of legal issues with using your parents equity. Most people dont consider but wjat woulf happen if either or both parties:
    Died
    Divorced
    Went bankrupt
    On centrelink benefits
    Etc

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    The property cannot be used as security for any loan. But the smsf could possibly borrow from a member without offering security. But legal advice would be needed as any stuff up could mean tjose funds could count as a contributiin.

    Same with buying stuff for the project. The smsf must buy it and jave the trustees name on any invoices. Otherwise it would probably be classed as a contribution.

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    My point iz that small thi gs lime this can escalate way beyond expectations. So if one is contemplating court action you should thi k carefully a d get legal advice first.

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    Freckle wrote:
    New South Wales Consolidated Acts

    LOCAL COURT ACT 2007 – SECT 39

    Appeals as of right

    39 Appeals as of right

    (cf LCA 1982, section 73)

    (1) A party to proceedings before the Court sitting in its General Division who is dissatisfied with a judgment or order of the Court may appeal to the Supreme Court, but only on a question of law.

    (2) A party to proceedings before the Court sitting in its Small Claims Division who is dissatisfied with a judgment or order of the Court may appeal to the District Court, but only on the ground of lack of jurisdiction or denial of procedural fairness.

    That is the small claims court.

    What would happen if one party appealed and went to the district court? More grounds to appeal and more escalation of court costs. I know someone who lost 3 houses because he thought a $10k dispute which was a appealed

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