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    wilko1 wrote:
    Transferring between spouses would come in handy if one Half suddenly got a pay rise whilst the other stopped working. Terry, Are there rules that say that you can only transfer ownership for estate planning reasons over the obvious tax minimisation reasons ? 

    Hi Wilko,

    The ATO has indicated in a few publications that a spouse borrowing to buy the interest of another spouse can claim the interest where the property is or will be an investment property.

    But it is easy to get this wrong and not be able to claim the interest. There is a thread on another forum in which the poster was boasting how they did this – but his spouse had gifted her share of the property to him. You cannot borrow to ‘buy’ a gift and claim the interest!

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    PCF Investor wrote:
    I see. So would it be best to see an accountant and a lawyer at the same time? I guess what I'm asking is where do I go and who do I make an appointment with. To sit down with them, explain my whole financial situation, explain what I'm planning to do and have them tell me my best options? Do you recommend any businesses or services for what I'm asking?

    You could go and see one person who is qualified to advise in all 3 areas.

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    PCF Investor wrote:
    Hi Jamie,

    Thanks for the advice. In regards to the finance person, who would best be able to give me advice on which structure is right for my circumstances? An accountant, lawyer, mortage broker??? All of the above? I'm willing to shell out decent $$$ in order to get my afairs right from the start and to maintain them. I just need advice on where to start.

    Cheers,

    Only lawyers can advise on structures. Accountants can only advise on the tax aspects. A trust is a pure legal thing – person A promising to hold property for person B under whole bunch of conditions stipulated in a deed.

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    Couples can only claim one property between them as the main residence. THis includes defactos.

    Don't forget in VIC there is stamp duty exemptions for transfers between spouses.

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    No minimum time period is specified in the legislation. Must genuniely make the property your main residence.

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    Yes I know about trusts and these sorts of things.

    Seems your understanding of these things needs developing. Who told you "must not currently own property" and why? Probably for asset protection maybe.

    You need legal advice on the transferring of property to a trust as there are several issues – no asset protection if you get it wrong for example.

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    It all depends on the circumstances. Borrowing costs are generally deductible over 5 years but if the LMI is incurred on a PPOR secured loan which is increased to access the equity for possible future purchases then it possibly won't be deductible.

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    Depends on the set up. I would suggest you get some tax advice before doing this.

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    kinderyum wrote:
    How would the person leasing the property go claiming their expenses from the ATO, if the (residentially zoned) property is being used for business purposes?

    Normal situation applies. If the expense of rent relates to their making of income it could still be deductible.

    Residential Tenancy Act

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    Yes. But watch out if the RTA applies

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    Redrawing is treated as new borrowings. If you borrow to fund living expenses the interest will not be deductible and you will end up with a mixed loan. Interest must then be apportioned and it will be impossible to later pay off the non deductible portion first.

    Split the loan first.

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    You don’t give enough details to make an assessment, but

    1. Paying down a loan will result in tax complications if you need to use this money back later.

    2. Ideally borrow to buy income producing investments and keep your cash for personal expenses.

    3. What did you do with the extra money borrowed? There could be complications resulting from this.

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    Get valuation at date of moving out and this will be the cost base – roughly speaking.

    Also have the option for keeping it CGT free for up to 6 years s118-145 ITAA 97

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    Do you own your parent's property?

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    If you have paid off your PPOR then why not consider a trust structure?

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    Rickduff wrote:
    Hello everyone. 

    I have a question about how to increase your borrowing capacity? 

    I currently have a PPOR with my partner that we paid $295,000 for in September 2012 which is in both of our names. 

    I am saving a cash deposit for an investment property which I hope to get mid to end of 2014. 

    My income is $90,000 PA and my partners is $50,000. 

    I am looking at putting the investment property and any other future properties into a family trust for asset protection and to save tax on rental income. 

    I am also thinking of transferring our PPOR to my partners name to free up my full income to buy IPs although I will probably have to go guarantor anyway. 

    If we go ahead and get the IPs, then combined with our PPOR does this mean we will be capped out on borrowing power? Will be putting a 10% deposit down on the IPs for around $250-300,00 and paying costs with cash. 

    Any advice is appreciated. 

    Cheers

    Rick

    Get some legal advice on the implications of transferring your share of the house to your spouse – stamp duty, asset protection, succession, control etc. And then get some legal advice on the trust side of things too. A trust set up wrong will provide little protection.

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    Get person A to ask person B to hold property for person C!

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    I agree – trusts don't help you borrow more!

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    This is a legal question. There are a couple of ways to do this, but far reaching consequences.

    First off – Why do you want to do this?

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    You might want to consider going for as high an LVR as possible and then parking the cash of the SMSF in a 100% offset account attached to the loan. This will save the SMSF interest and keep the funds available. With SMSFs once you pay a loan down you cannot reborrow it.

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