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    I have answered your criticism to the best of my
    ability, using quotes from the tax office booklets that prove my arguments, if im still wrong then im just going on what the booklets say, but i think you hav lost your case… Where are u getting this information from anyway saying that im wrong?? so far u havn’t proven a thing… just told me that im wrong lol perhaps its you who cannot read my friend…..

    That is alll!!!!

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    To auspiciousdna; (again)

    Isn’t having a place VACANT for 3-4 years whilst still using it as ur main residence meaning that ur living there, but unoficially??? as in “just on paper”???

    And, may i ask who has knocked on your front door recently to confirm that you are there???

    Its just a matter of how u read the rules and interpret them… in the example given the person rented for 6y and had it empty for 4 years, then sold. Where was her time to actually “live” there?
    But it was still her primary residence, as the example said…

    pg 53 of the same booklet also states that there is NO MINIMUM time in which a person has to live in a dwelling to make it their main residence…

    call em if u like, u know the number…

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    To auspiciousdna;

    How certain are you of this??? If someone pointed out to me that I was incorrect and I found this to be true, then I would have retracted my statement and apologised… Calling my comments illegal, and being an “advertisment on how to break the law” is just going way too far in my opinion… unless you are an accountant or a Lawyer (are you??)……..

    Ok, now this is what I found in the most recent Booklet from the ATO….

    One period of absence of 10 years

    Home ceases to be the main residence and is used to produce income for one period of six years.
    Lisa buys a house after 20 Sep 1985 but ceases to use it as her main residence for the 10 years immediately before she sells it. During this period she rents it out for six years and leaves it vacant for four years.

    Lisa chooses to treat the dwelling as her main residence for the period after she ceased living in it, so any capital gain or capital loss she makes on the sale is DISREGARDED. The maximum period the dwelling can continue to be her main residence while it is used to produced income is six years. However while the house is vacant, the period is unlimited, which meant the exemption applies for the whole 10 years.

    In addition to this, because the dwelling is fully exempt as a result of Lisa making this choice, the ‘home first used to produce income’ rule (explained on page 56) does not apply.

    Home used to produce income for more than one period totalling six years

    In the 10-year period after Lisa stopped living in the dwelling she rents it out for 3 years, leaves it vacant for 2 years, rents it out for the next 3 years, then once more leaves it vacant for 2 years.

    If she chooses to treat the dwelling as her main residence for the period after she ceased living in it, any capital gain or capital loss she makes on selling it again is DESREGARDED. This is because the period the home was used to produce income during each absence is not more then 6 years.

    Pg 59, Guide to CGT, 2002-2003

    Well??? what do u think of that??? it does sorta reflect what i was saying doesnt it???

    As i also stated in my first response “I may be wrong” Im just human, but please, in future perhaps you should use a different aproach when you ‘believe’ that someone is incorrect!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jason….

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    Hey there Muppet,

    One property scam thats been doing the rounds on TV is Qld units being sold to SYD investors at inflated prices…

    Jason :)

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    Hey there Muppet,

    One property scam thats been doing the rounds on TV is Qld units being sold to SYD investors at inflated prices…

    Jason :)

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    Hello Troy,

    Cashflow +ve properties no longer exist in Sydney, the last of them went about 2 years ago..

    Even 200 km away, places in Bathurst, and Goulburn are no longer +ve… but 3-6 months ago u may hav found a few…..

    because of the property boom, investors are looking far and wide for places such as what u mentioned… they are out there, and the only way i found places was by driving to the locations personally… i wouldnt trust this sort of thing to another person.. and as others hav said, its heaps more fun!

    i would use the equity in other investment places u hav, and and put the cash you already have into your main home loan, if u hav it under morgage, as long as the cash is from your own money, and not from another investment…

    Happy hunting

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    Hello RentMaster,

    Not wanting to sound like a smart alec, but are people “braging” on this site perhaps? after all it is a site thats based on people buying investment properties! my self and many others hav probably mentioned what places they own, and what they are worth, but surley u dont see this as a “mines bigger then yours” statemnt? we are here after all to help each other…

    As for your second question, i personally do prefer cheaper properties, but this does NOT mean “crap”. But as Slum Lord mentioned, i do also have some premium places, the reason is that some day i may want to live in one myself…
    and yes, the cheaper places are by far the easiest to rent out!!!

    As an investor im looking for income, based on cost, and will give you an example:

    3 places (2 houses, 1 Villa) in regional NSW total purchase value of $247K making an income of $405 pw, (5-20% capital growth per property in the last 3-6 months)

    1 place (unit) a friend bought in the Sydney CBD around the same time, purchase “value” of $465K, vacant for 2 months, finally a tennent at $370 pw and nill capital growth (thus far)….

    which would you choose??? i know what ill stick to…

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    Hey there Skalle

    Purchase costs would be 5-8% of price, depending on state, lender etc and if u get mortgage insurance…

    ongoing costs vary, an older place has more maintenence then a newer place… but to add u hav :

    rates,
    water,
    insurance(s) of some sort,
    agent fees,
    strata fees,

    These can be assumed to remain constant, with small increases yearly… but then u hav to worry about what can (and will) go wrong in the place u buy…

    Houses get internal as well as external problems, last year i had to replace 24 metres of boundary fencing, after an “act of God”, then the hot water system blew, then shower screen fell of rail and broke.. in the space of 3 weeks… cost me $2700… this yr (so far) its been $20 on leaking taps…

    there is no set formula in other words, u just hav to hope for the best, and be prepared to hav “just in case” money ready to fix things that happen…

    hope it helps!

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    Hey Lawrey73

    Im a part time mum, part time dad, part time doctor, part time maths whiz, part time shrink, part time scientist, part time comedian, part time coach, part time mediator, part time art critic…..

    AND a Full Time Casual Primary school teacher

    And its the best job i know!

    Cheers !

    Jason :) :)

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    Woops!!!

    Sorry Rosscoe, as other ppl hav mentioned my info was incorrect, i guess i should hav looked into it b4 opening my mouth… hmmm i was going on what a friend told me he did with his place, sorry :(

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    Hey Michael

    I personally believe that in the next 5-7 months we will see our first rate increase. i think just last month the US has had their first month where they hav had a small ammount of growth in their economy…..

    Keep track of what the banks do with their fixed rates, just this monday Members Equity has increased some or at least 1 of its fixed rates.. could this be a sign of whats to come???

    But as others hav said… u pretty much need a crystal ball lol

    Cheers :)

    Jason

    PS i very much doubt that rates will go into double figures any time soon if ever, the public backlash from first home buyers and anyone else thats got a mortgage will be huge… just my thought i guess :)

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    Hey there Ranger :)

    Thanx for the kind words, some more advice, buy at the lower end of the market (if not the lowest) and then when all the cheapies are gone you hav increased the value of your place to around the next cheapest place available… (depending on the properties compared of course)

    Dont EVER take no for an answer!!! i sometimes had to apply for loans at 2 places at the same time caus 1 would say that it may not get approved… I hav only just started using this site, and wish i knew about it many years earlier lol… the wealth of information is amazing :)

    All the best!

    Jason :)

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    Hey there Vluu

    No matter how good you think u are at maintaining your debt, the main banks seem to still want blood out of a stone…

    Unless you hav a full time job, or a business number more then 2 years old its very hard, no matter what ur circumstances are… i did exactly the same thing 3 months ago, i re financed all my places, had about $240K of play money to use, and just thought i could stroll into a bank and say, here is 20 % deposit to cover ur bums, lend me the rest…. (i had this “crazy” idea of buying 5-8 more places)

    still needed group certificates, still needed work history, and still needed work, even though my loan repayments were about 50 % of my gross rental income… i got declined….

    i had to buy the places outrite.. which i didnt want to do…

    2 years ago i bought a unit in Worrawong, past Wollongong, cost $71 K, rented at $125 pw, and the repayments on 80 % loan were about $65 pw interest only… that was not enough for the lender… i STILL needed a job…

    doesnt make sense, and its not fair sometimes… (70% of my work is casual by choice – banks still wont touch me lol)

    My suggestion is, as mentioned by other ppl, get an ABN asap, get as much property as you can while ur still working and then decide about quitting working… its funny how after u get a 25 or 30 year loan u never get bothered again about work or even if ur in the same job….
    go figure…

    All the best!

    Jason

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    Hey Vik_fam

    Im 24, bought my first IP at 20 and my 6th will settle in 13 days, still live at home with mum and dad, would hav got heaps more if the banks and lenders werent so anal about having a full time job… i did all this while at uni full time for 5 years and stacking shelves at coles…

    Anything is possible!!!

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    Hey there Julie :)

    I just found this site a few days ago, and must admit havn’t read the book.. but buying places starts off slow, and the more you get the more you can get…

    I bought my first place at 20, then another at 21, then another 3 months after that, then another 6 months after that, then another about every 6 months after that… im onto my 6th now and hav just turned 24…

    first of all people obviously dont buy places outright when starting off or do so vary rarely, they get them under mortgage so they hav control of the property. buy places that firstly pay for themselves, then save the extra and keep on saving all you can… for the first few years an over seas trip or a new car is a very bad idea… all these things will come with patience when you can more afford them.. (and when you can afford not to work)

    Hopefully the places you buy increase in value, you then use the equity to buy another place, and it goes on and on…

    soon you will hav a small portfolio of real estate, you will also be in a great deal of debt, but as long as its well spread out, and your not letting the money go to your head you will eventually have many places at your disposal. if things go bad you sell one, or 2 lol…

    a secure, full time job helps with getting the loan(s), as well as minimal debts and expenses..

    just remember, if u put your mind to it you can achieve anything!

    Jason…

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    Yup ur rite

    interest on an IP is tax deductable, so is pretty much all other expenses, in terms of maintenence and upkeep. travelling, phone calls, stationary, agent management fees, insurance, advertising… whatever comes out of your pocket is tax deductable, but i think larger items like the replacement of part of a fence, or a Hot water service are broken down into yearly installments over a few years.. this includes stamp duty (cant remember if its the loan or the purchase stamp duty) thats also deductable over a few years….

    get a free booklet from the ATO sent to you, speak to an accountant :)

    thats why interest only loans are available i guess,,, interest on investments is commonly referred to as “good debt”

    All the best :)

    Jason

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    How High?

    Well i hav heard that house prices double every 7 years… as a general rule i guess…

    look at past trends, it sounds crazy now i guess, but sure enough, a $600K house would hav been worth about half 7 years ago, and as crazy as it sounds in another 7 years it will probably be worth $1.2 mil. there are obviously exeptions to the rule, some real estate i hav dealt with has doubled in 2 years, a friend of mine bought a place in bathurst 12 years ago for $42K and its now worth about $57K…

    Just dont get me started on the “value” of inner city apartments in sydney thats all lol

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    Hey there Cattie

    Take a look at my response under the question “what to look for when researching”

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3412

    Just to add, u want growth as well im guessing, use realestate.com and do a “sold properties” search, which will show you how has the market has moved in the last year or so…

    Happy hunting :)

    Jason

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    I would re-finance the townhouse and inject the extra funds into your new house, remembering that interest on an investment is tax deductable but interest on where you live is not…

    hope it helps :)

    Jason.

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    Hey there Mary,

    I hav a house insurance policy with the Commonwealth that also has Landlords insurance linked to it. i remember that it was the cheapest option by far here in sydney when i was making the phone calls. If i remembeer right they also gave a discount on the home insurance?? its been 10 months but lol so i may be mistaken.

    44 py sounds VERY cheap… what exactly does this buy? sounds sus to me….

    do your research, call around and read the fine print!

    Hope this helps!

    Jason :)

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