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I still think your agent is not working for his/her commission. Of course now that you are out of the "exclusive" agreement they will won't to know even less of you I expect. Of course not everyone works like this but it would appear the majority do. I can understand you don't want to drive 8 hours to meet someone only to find "they have changed their mind". If you know a neighbour well enough leave them with the key but make sure they are the kind of people who could talk a potential purchaser out of the deal – this can happen even when owners get involved! Maybe find out what the house could rent for – there are not that many on realestate.com.au. and include a projected, realistic rent and then maybe advertise it in the Courier Mail and the Gold Coast Bulletin if it works well on expected figures.
Keep at them though and if they still don't get their act together either do your own thing – at least give it a try – or find a new agent. One of the very first properties I ever bought I never even saw an agent! It was with an agent but he was too far away and wouldn't drive anywhere on a weekend – can you believe that! I bought the place and made a fortune on it after 5 years of hard work getting it into some sort of shape.
I do love property when it works well.
May you solve your problems soon.
All the best
Debbie
Hi Adam,
We have been through his quandary too over the years and eventually we came to the conclusion that it is better to buy a second-hand car, outright if you can afford it. Perhaps let your trust purchase it so claims can be made too but I would suggest you speak to your accountant – or get one – here in Australia. We have leased many cars and always hate practically giving them away at the end of the day, we also still make the mistake of buying new cars but we always promise ourselves we will never do this again. I wonder when we will take notice of our own advice?
I wish you well.
DebbieHi TIA,
I hate to hear how badly some realestate salespeople treat their clients – you are the perfect example and I would be giving them the shove if I was you. However, if your property sells whilst you have a contract to sell with these agencies you will be liable for the commission. Have a read through your agreement with them and see if you can cancel at any stage with written notice and what subject to's they include when you do this. I have done this very thing with an agent that was very nice but kept trying to tell me I was expecting too much money for my property – she had no idea I had been working as a REA for close to 10 years at the time. I gave her written notice that I was withdrawing my property for sale after a mini-cyclone had decimated our neighbourhood ( my house and yard were untouched but it worked as a great excuse!) and then put it into the hands of another agent who sold it within a week for close to $50,000 more than she was trying to convince me was its true worth. Hmmm – perhaps she wanted a friend to buy my house?
So, as the agents you have are not working your property well it can't hurt to try www. owner.com.au or the like – as you have already done – but the distance you need to travel could be a problem. May I ask what area of Queensland your property is in? Perhaps you could take the time to get to it once a fortnight and have it as an open house and advertise in the local paper? If it is an investment property you should be able to use your travel as a deduction from any profit you might make on it – check this one out with your accountant though. Have you thought of phoning another agent (all agents) in the area to see what their thoughts are on the saleability of your property? Have you actually considered speaking to the person in the office that you have your house listed with to voice your complaints? Sometimes this can do wonders to get some action moving on having your property sold.
I hope you achieve your goal shortly.
All the best
DebbieHi Steve, Shaun and Marc,
I like all your answers and I love Marc's list, not that it was me that was asking the question but it is a good list to keep around when approaching "salespeople" – very few of them are actually agents. Also thank you Shaun for the ebook which I have downloaded and I will be taking a good read of shortly.
May we all be successful with our properties.
Enjoy
DebbieIf you are still looking to find owner/vendors try this site: http://www.owner.com.au – make sure you get this correct or you end up on the following – RESE is a Real Estate Search Engine – which may still be fine for you. There are also the following:
http://www.smartvendor.com.au/
http://www.australiarealty.com/
However, don't be fooled into thinking you might get a property cheaper by working directly with the owner, they often have an over-inflated idea of what their property is really worth and many vendors need educating by a good agent to make them see sense when a good deal is put to them. Also bear in mind that every agent is (should be) motivated in getting a property sold – that's how they make their living.
On your other question on land or buying a current building, I'd go for the easily-tenanted property over land as it will bring you in money straight away and this makes life a little easier when you apply for a loan.
Happy house hunting.
Debbie
Hi Furnz,
If I was you I would leave your tenants in place and if I was to purchase a property to live in I would suggest you purchase it in the name of a Trust and pay the rent to reside there. There are all sorts of good reasons why you would do this. Discuss these reasons with your accountant and if he is unsure of where to move with a Trust, get a new accountant. I understand how confusion can reign in such situations but that is why it is always a really good idea to have a great accountant who can guide you through the best steps for you to take. On our properties we only pay the Interest, but this is what suits our plans and expectations best.
Have yourself a great week.
DebbieCata,
Thanks for the updated details on Adrian. I have updated my address book now.
Have yourself a great week.Debbie
What a terrible way to think! Someone actually burnt down a house we owned a little over a year ago and one of the first things the fire brigade asked us was if the house was insured – it wasn't.
We were going to demolish the house anyway but right at that stage we didn't need it to be burnt down either. Now that the house was dangerous we had to demolish it sooner rather than later and were then up for a $12,000 bill that has now just added to our holding cost for the land whilst we are waiting for subdivision plans to come out of Council.
Such a thought should never have even made its way to this forum as far as I am concerned.
May good karma reign.
Debbie
Hi Daryl,
You could consider letting people park their boats, caravans, horse floats on your land but this can get a bit messy particularly if the neighbours don't like it or if one of the boarding vehicles goes on the missing list. You would (should) also get planning permission from your local council to do this and of course this too cost money. If you were considering taking the path of placing self storage sheds in situ, this too is ideal for a township area but again there is council approval required and the cost of building the storage sheds.
As for the gathering of information as to the cost of billboard advertising, why not just phone one of the big companies to see what they charge?
Is there a reason as to why you are considering holding onto the land until some later date?
I wish you well.
Debbie
Hi John,
We don't have any direct dealings with anyone in Victoria but as we are also a part of the Ed Burton "Inner Circle" we were given the following accountant's details a few years ago who at the time was working in the Ringwood area, if that is any nearer for you. Okay, yes it must be closer than Beenleigh for you but maybe still not near enough. Here are the details:
Adrian Hill (03) 9812 2257
or e-mail
[email protected]As I say, we have had no direct contact with Adrian but in this day and age I still wouldn't put Compass Services in the too-far basket – they really do know what they are talking about and here are the details if Adrian is still not who you are looking for:
MARK.L.SEABROOKMANAGING DIRECTOR
PH: 61 (07) 38079670
FAX: 61 (07) 38072574
MOBILE : 0418733810
LEVEL I , TRINITY PLACE
1 JAMES ST BEENLEIGH QLD 4207
QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIAe-mail:
[email protected]Mark seems to know the answers to any questions you may have buzzing around in your head even before you ask.
I wish you well.
Debbie
Grim it gives one good heart to know that not every property investor has no heart when it comes to caring for their tenants – whatever their age and situation.
May good karma be coming right back at you.
Debbie
Hi Ems.
You could give my accountant a try. We have been with him for over 10 years now and we really make him work for his money.
Graham Donnelly
Financial Intelligence Specialist
Suite 5, 1 Trinity Place
1 James Street
PO Box 1134
Beenleigh Qld 4207
(07) 3382 6541
(07) 3382 6542
http://www.hlmsolutions.com.au
Also, parking outside his office is usually straight forward and no parking charges for this area so far.
Cheers
Debbie
If you have enough money hanging around why not put some of it into gold? It is just not everyone's cup of tea as it doesn't pay dividends or interest but even though it is quite high now my husband assures me it is going to go up even further. Otherwise, if that is a little too foreign for you ING has a great savings account on-line with no banking fees.
Dear John,
Make sure your account does know what he is talking about though. If you live in the Brisbane area I can recommend Compass Services who really do look after me and my trusts.
All the best and do take care of your investments – it is better to be safe than sorry.
Debbie
Oh but I just thought Martin,
If you buy an acreage property you only get CGT free on the land component that is 5 acres or less.
Property investment is full of twisty-turny things so keep a good accountant by your side at all times.
I've made great money at this fun game so I am sure the average person can too.
Debbie
Dear Martin, There shouldn't be any CGT to pay on your principal place of residence even if you do sell under 12 months. This is a great plan and I wish you well in your endeavours.
Debbie
Why are you looking at buying a property to hold? You should be looking at a property that will ultimately bring you in money. Now if you are looking at holding onto a property because the Local Area Plan (LAP) shows it as being a potential property for subdivision you should still have something that you can either rent out or live in as, I can tell you now, that most Councils will take around 2 years to give subdivision approval now that there are so many reports that have to be submitted along with your application. However, if you are looking at holding onto a property with the though of a straight forward capital gain, stop and think again. With the current changing tide of the property market I would tread very carefully. Perhaps you could give us all a little more idea of what it is you have in mind, that way we can probably give you some value insight into what questions to ask.
Have a good one.
Debbie
Okay, I used to work as a Buyers Agent and I loved my job at the time. I knew my market well and could always get the best deal possible for my purchasers but it did take a lot of work. Often investors don't know the difference between an investment and a liability, get swept up in emotion and don't realise that a lick of paint required can get them a great buy. I would suggest that if you don't know the area you are looking at purchasing in intimately, track down a Buyers Agent. I was only ever paid a salesperson's commission but I did a great job, made sure my purchasers got their moneys worth and they bought through me time and time again.
Time to do your own due diligence on this I think.
I wish you well.
Debbie
I think you should just get married but beside that, why even bother to tempt the stamp duty demon? Leave things as they are unless there is some tax advantage in the deal. In the eyes of the law a de facto relationship is as good as any other contract and you are both in on these properties at the end of the day. However, if you do wish to tie everything up into both your names to make it all a little neater, when it comes to paying the stamp duty it will be levied at whatever the current market value is. This I know from my own past experience when I purchased my mother's property when she could no longer afford the mortgage repayments I hunted around to get the lowest valuation I could and that is what the stamp duty was levied at.
I wish you well.
Debbie
As everyone else has said, "this is a tough spot to be in when you are a softy". Why not do some of the renovations and when it comes time to renew the lease put the rent payable up just a little? If the oldies love the place so much they will pay the extra and if they can't you will then have the opportunity to completely do your renovations and secure a new tenant at a market-value rent. I've taken the softies route too many times and I have found that at the end of the day "if it's to be, it's up to me". I have also found that with I.P's they either attract great tenants all the time or bad tenants all the time – it must just be how they resonate after a good or bad experience. I am talking about the property here by the way. I have even ended up moving into the homes where the bad tenants have been to give the place a break. It seems with a clean break the property then heals its soul and good tenants beat the path to your door.
May you be guided to make the right decision.
I wish you well.
Debbie