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    Isn't this part of the problem when interest rate rises are used to exert some control over the economy?  If the objective is to spend less, then maybe an increase of the GST would be better and more effective. The political party who does that would be committing suicide.

    If the property market appears to be flattening out, interest rates can steady or come back down again. The RBA would have to be complete bonkers to keep increasing in a flat property market surely. 

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    ummester wrote:
    dreamtobelieve wrote:
    From 1999 – 2009 wages went up from 30-50%, on averge. Houses went up around 200% on averge.

    A cheap mortgage now cost a third as much PA as a cheap rental.

    Do the maths and use a bit of logic.

    Interesting, where do those figures come from? Also what do you mean by "A cheap mortgage now cost a third as much as PA as a cheap rental"?

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    pashabulker1 wrote:
    Hey thanks for your replies Surrealist/mattnz. Surrealist you say that 10 years ago people had the same arguments. Thats most probably true, people have always complained about property prices. But they say that property goes through 10 year cycles, well I would say that properties have been increasing for the past 10 years easily. And whenever there is a property boom there is a bust. Also 10 years ago Australia didn't have the excessive debt that it now has.

    Yes personal bad debt, no doubt the key difference from a decade ago. Maybe should of included this in your opening post as it certainly supports your argument.

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    Thanks marx and Joanne. Been reading through a number of threads and find some very interesting and others entertaining. :-) Joanne I'd say Canberra has changed dramatically since 1993. Your plan sounds great though. There's an interesting article in the current API magazine about a recent profitable project development in Scullin. Not sure if it is this magazine or the other, but it lists a few hot spots to keep an eye out on in Canberra currently, and surrounding suburbs.

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    I'm very new to this so my arguments are simply speculation based on hearsay and what I read.  You raise some interesting points. A person i worked with previously argued something very similar that what happened in America was due to hit Australia in the next couple of years because it is just not sustainable. Property prices have also been inflated due to government grants and such which are being phased down / out. I see wages a major factor in all this in addition to inflation, interest rates and other variables that are somewhat controlled aspects in an otherwise free market economy. The thing is however, were not these same arguments being expressed 10 years ago and longer? Yet despite the doomsday forecasts, property prices have continued to rise and with it, capital growth and the acquisition of wealth for people positioned in the market. I only own my home I just bought 3 months ago and have to say I'm a little nervous about interest rate increases atm. At least the RBA has some control over property as they can lower interest rates if the need arises, but seems their going to continue going up a little further in the near future. Intereesting topic though would be good to see some perspectives from those practising property investing.

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    Hey mate, welcome to the forum. I'm a newbie myself and one thing I find quite remarkable is the amount of young people that are already getting into property investing. I was brought up in a very risk averse household that ironically has shown to be more detrimental than having had taken some risk years ago,  now I'm getting on with little to show for it. Good luck with your goals, hopefully by the time you are half-way to my age you'll be financially comfortable or maybe retired! ;-)

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    Hi Joanne

    Thank you for your reply and advice. Canberra is not a bad place at all. Moved here from Sydney for work. I live in the north side of Canberra though travel frequently to the south to go to Southern Cross Health. I looked at a few properties down there at the time when I was seeking but they were generally higher priced yet smaller and / or older. I think this one was kinda lucky because the full FHOG was about to expire and this was only a walk away from where I was renting so only had to move stuff across.

    Thanks again for your advice, encouragement and kind words.

    Steve

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