The trick is, you can make money, but on paper, losses can show you are either having no income at all, or you are under the taxable threshold for any earnings to pay any tax. Any further taxable losses, then get carried over to the next year, further again increasing your paper loss, yet still producing earnings and profits.
Instead of offsetting the income against my wage, i have been able to offset it against the +ve cashflow properties, leaving my income full intact, but once you add in expense, my income taxable threshold decreases very quickly, add in the depreciation and then on paper it shows, im making a huge lost, but yet at the same time, im still able to keep all earnings due to this large effect.
So the full amount of money that comes in, is totally offesetted, yet the depreciation, offsets it, even further more, till its shows, i have no income or on paper profit, but all paper losses.
I love this question, alrightie then, remember all my properties are offsetting against each other,
(+ve + -ve = 0) so any real money i make is neutralled out.
This then shows that i only really do have income from my job (but yes, i will admit i do have +ve cash flow coming in, as the amount of cashflow coming in is greater than, all the expense in total.) Showing that just my own income from my job is what i am only really earning. Plus only a little bit each week from the +ve cashflow.
With all expense and cost against the properties, im still able to claim a large amount of deductibles, (which is a major cause of offsetting)
So this still leaves me in a position of my job producing well over the HECs threshold.
With the benefits of some expenses, that can be claimed against my earnings, again this will show as a loss against my wage, meaning on paper that i have lost money and further reduce my taxable threshold.
With about 5 of the properties being able to claim depreciation, my taxable threshold still decreases, while my income from my jobs still remains the same, with full tax refund, but at the same time able to roll over alot of tax losses into the next financial year.
for eg.
lets say i have $100k coming in and $95k going out, it shows that i have a cashflow of an extra $5k a year, but lets add in all the added expense that are claimable and that can reduce my tax threshold + my job earnings, i am making profit on paper and in the bank, but these extra expense like depreciation, will show that i have a tax benefit of claiming large amounts of losses, which show up on paper that im losing money but reducing my tax threshold were its roughly saying that i lost more than enough, that i had made no earnings but a loss and that my paper deductions are showing im earning $0 dollars but have been able to claim tax benefits, showing i have a -ve income of about $15k.
What i mean is, when i sit down with the accountant, my earnings for the year look like i have a -ve earnings of $15k under $0 (again showing, i have no income at all,) yet i have expenses and tax benefits that show a paper loss, but an actual profit in hand(bank).
Being able to do this, im showing no income on paper but complete losses, while in hand and in bank, im truly earning, which proves and provides to the ATO, i can’t pay HEC’s cause i have no income coming in due to, the expense and depreciation, that is claimable but lowered my on paper losses under $0 dollar earnings.
Ok, im not sure if you understood it all, but ill try to keep explaining, so you can see how it works.
Another good person to add to that list, i think is Margaret Lomas,
Shes a more in between Jans Somers and Wakelin/Fitgerald… her strategy involves purchasing -ve geared property, that can be highly depreciated but at the same time returning +ve dollars back in tax rebate. You could probably say she is also an all rounder, which i honestly feel is better, as you have more balanced but more diversed portfolio.
Though each of these 5 people mentioned, you could easily say, they have a strategy, they stick to and it works for them…
so really, maybe there is a strategy out there for everyone, its just knowing which strategy works best for you…
… remember that conversation i had with you the other day? well the agent who has been continously calling, may have got my details from that website, though i will admit, since they have called they have been giving me accurate indication of how much the property is worth…
Actually a few months back, i remember there were like 2 – 3 churches for sale in Tasmania, dont know why? But just curious what can you really do with a churh, i mean the only real thing i can see you do with it, is refurbish the inside of the church and use it as a funeral palor? Though still, that could be a good idea.
1998 – ATO issues ruling TR98/22 claiming that the only purpose for capitalising the interest was to reduce the debt on the private residence so the interest on the capitalised interest was a cost of the private mortgage not the rental property mortgage therefore not deductible. This is a subjective interpretation.
Just looking at notes, the TR98/22 Income Tax – (the taxation consequences for tax payers entering into certain linked or split loan facilities.)
Isnt that still going under some sort of ruling still with the High Court? or has that been ruled now?
lol,.. Trust me you dont want the full version of the mens one, alot of replies and post to it will go off the swear and abuse meter and the next thread to that post, well…. i’d get in big trouble or looked upon by heaps of people.
by doing this way, all the rude and crap post that people dont wanna read can be avoided and no hard feelins or a offence will be taken.