Congrats mate. I didn’t know you were getting married… welcome to the club.
No – I’m not melbear – just me.
As for 10 year loans… it’s not that hard to find out, you just need to dig further than the surface.
The infochoice website has it nicely packaged for you – just call the people who offer 5 year fixed terms to see if they also offer 10 year terms. I bet some do (wink, wink) but they just don’t advertise it.
Your problem won’t be buying property, but rather securing finance. No bank I know will lend to a minor.
So, some ideas…
1. Buy on a long settlement so that you tie up a deal today (subject to it meeting your requirements), but it does not settle ’till you’re 18. Of course, you’ll need to qualify for finance at that point.
2. Find deals and get a money partner. Go 50:50 on the profits/losses.
3. Buy in your parent’s name in trust for you until you turn 18. This might be a little more complicated, so see a lawyer.
4. Sell deals to earn cash so that when you turn 18 you can hit the financial road running.
…there’s lots more you can do, but finding solutions to your problems is your responsibility and will define (or not) your ultimate success.
I echo the sentiments that it is great you are thinking about these issues – but so was someone else I know who was ultra keen and progressing vey well at age 17, yet to date he’s not been able to translate his good intentions and steady school days endeavours into investing success.
Maybe you can… best to give it a try at the shallow end of the investing pool and see.
Good luck!
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That’s why Dave and I continued with the accounting business and set up other businesses too.
Banks don’t want low-risk, they want no-risk. Strange isn’t it that they had crazy lending practices in the high rise market, yet didn’t budge much with traditional investing.
If worst comes to worse, do low-doc loans where they just ask for an income declaration and the source doesn’t matter.
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Mel is right about foreclosures. Unless you get to the vendor before the foreclosure, banks are:
1. Unable to release private details due to privacy laws; and
2. Must take the property to auction so that there is no implied funny business.
It is the same in NZ, however it is possible to broker a mass buy-out privately and do the occasional foreclosure pick up.
I think the same will occur here too as the market turns and auction clearance rates fall… you’ll be able to negotiate a great deal after auction if the property doesn’t sell.
In the States, people run classified ads asking people in financial trouble to call them because they buy houses fast and pay cash. Perhaps this market will develop here in Oz???
As for opportunities, who can tell? I just suspect there’ll be more problems calling for people with solutions.
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1. We worked as accountants to save up the capital to start investing.
2. Since we borrowed 80%, we needed to find 20% deposits.
3. We began with B&H, but soon realised that it would eat a lot of our capital, so we switched to the wrap strategy where we only needed bewteen $5k and $10k.
4. We sold some of our B&H property that had appreciated to access profits to buy more wraps. Later our wraps cashed us out and we used the profits to buy back into to B&H property.
5. All the while Dave worked as an accountant. I ‘sold’ information (forst) at wealthtipsonline and here at propertyinvesting.com. All the money we made went to buying property.
6. In the meantime I lived off $400 a month my wife gave me from her salary and Dave did likewise.
…oh, plus we both won lotto… []
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Yet I asked Brian, Andrew and Bruce to contribute as I thought it was necessary to show that my results were not isolated and that others were also achieving good success.
If you read their words they actually contain a lot of information about the struggles they grappled with, which while different, are still common themed.
Ideally, and without any disrespect, what I wanted to leave the reader felling was… if Steve and these other guys (from a broad background) can do it, surely I can too.
Sorry if this spoiled the read for you, but have another read and see if you can’t glean any insights.
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I’m all for blocks of units as it’s great to be in control of the body corporate. Surely the same logic applies that if it makes sense to own one – it makes sense to own the whole block.
There are problems too though… finance is a big one. Most lenders will tell you it’s a commercial deal and will proceed to either say ‘no’ or maybe limit your borrowing to 70%. This being the case, it can be capital intensive.
Also, with more dwellings, the maintenance is usually more of an issue too.
Finally, when it comes time to sell, you may find your market fewer in number as you really need to find another investor who’s willing to pay your price.
Still, I like the idea of owning blocks – provide the investing fundamentals are dealth with and the project makes the required return on my investment.
Good post and great question!
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Thanks for your post and welcome to the community!
Glad you liked the book []
One possible suggestion is to call several accountants in your area. The old-fashioned types still have a bookkeeping service (of varying sorts and ability) that you might find helpful.
Good luck and certainly make a post if you find someone of good ability.
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I agree that buying a -vely geared property would be a mistake to you as you wouldn’t be able to offset the tax loss against other substantial income, so unless you could (1) afford the loss and (2) buy in a time of considerable capital gains – then I think you’d find it a struggle.
My advice, if you are solid in your commitment to begin investing is to consider finding a way to buy the property you are currently in from the government. I understand they offer good deals to tenants who buy them out – so that may be your point of best advantge.
Then, if you can make some money on that deal, you could use your profits to pay the rent elsewhere while you also bought a second investment property.
It’s a medium-to-long shot, but perhaps it’s got legs?!?
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Call me old-fashioned, but this is a question you’d want to have answered before you bought, right?
What if you can’t develop and instead you’re left with the property and it’s -ve cashflow?
My advice:
1. Go to the council asap and work out what’s possible.
2. Compare that with what’s financially feasible.
3. Understand that professional investors don’t invest in a manner where there is so much uncertainty. Work out your plan, finance etc. as without a plan your success is more a matter of chance than choice.
It may not be too late to salvage the situation… but get active quick or risk doing your dough.
Good luck.!
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Failing a post of help here, I suggest you contact WA property investment groups and ask who they use.
One thing to remember is that trust law is 90% impacted by federal rather than state based laws since the biggest issue is usually pertaining to tax law much more than State based legislation.
Still, it’s goo to get some local advice – from a solicitor or an accountant.
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The key is to find reasons why/how it will rather than be resolved that it won’t.
The idea is that, provided (1) you had access to unlimited finance, (2) you could meet the cost of additional borrowing from profits, and (3) the properties were +ve cashflow, you could continue to buy because you’d always be making profits.
The problem is that more debt means higher risk.
Hope this has helped to clarify the issue.
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Seek professional advice at tax time, but I’d be confident you could mount a reasonable argument saying that the costs were incurred in obtaining assessable income, especially since you have gone on to buy elsewhere.
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