I think that your decision will become clearer once you have set a minimum required return on invesment.
Note, I haven’t used CoCR because, in your case, the return would be negative.
What I’m saying is work out how much capital growth you demand, and while it achieves this the great, but when it doesn’t it might be your trigger to sell.
While you don’t have this benchmark, it’s difficult to see the sell signals until perhaps it is too late.
Finally, definitely work out a plan for paying off the debt. Interest only repayments on a large amount of debt can be quite risky. A few dollars a week will add up, even if you only create an interest offset account and have your salary put into that account… at least the daily interest will be lower for a few days. Having said that, some IO facilities don’t allow interest offset facilities.
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I’ll have a stab at some of the answers although I recommend seeing an appropriately qualified and experienced professional re: tax matters.
Finance
I’ve looked into this and most major Australian lenders will lend on OS property, but they want Australian property as security.
This makes it tricky, so to get around this I have just jumped through the finance application hopes in the OS areas where I invest (don’t ask).
Such borrowers have lent 70% LVR, but I know of people who have secured 80% LVR. It all depends on the risk profile of the applicant.
CGT
I don’t know the answer to this one, but I would have thought that CGT only applies to Australian assets (ie. Australian source).
What is more likely is that there will be a double-tax treaty with Aust. and the overseas country that will outline how profits are taxed.
Bottom line: you’ll have to pay tax, but you shouldn’t be taxed twice.
Inspections and tax
If you have Australian income then expenses associated with earning that income are deductible. It’s a matter of the timing of the expense and whether or not you’re showing (or are likely to show) a profit from the investment on your Australian tax return.
If not (or in addition to?) Australia, then you should be able to claim the expense against any tax in the country where you are investing.
FHOG
I think so… but check this out. My understanding is the grant is only applicable to and in relation to properties in Australia. I’d imagine that you would have to be an Australian citizen though, in addition to all the other qualifying criteria.
Stomach Churning…
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Congrats mate. I didn’t know you were getting married… welcome to the club.
No – I’m not melbear – just me.
As for 10 year loans… it’s not that hard to find out, you just need to dig further than the surface.
The infochoice website has it nicely packaged for you – just call the people who offer 5 year fixed terms to see if they also offer 10 year terms. I bet some do (wink, wink) but they just don’t advertise it.
Your problem won’t be buying property, but rather securing finance. No bank I know will lend to a minor.
So, some ideas…
1. Buy on a long settlement so that you tie up a deal today (subject to it meeting your requirements), but it does not settle ’till you’re 18. Of course, you’ll need to qualify for finance at that point.
2. Find deals and get a money partner. Go 50:50 on the profits/losses.
3. Buy in your parent’s name in trust for you until you turn 18. This might be a little more complicated, so see a lawyer.
4. Sell deals to earn cash so that when you turn 18 you can hit the financial road running.
…there’s lots more you can do, but finding solutions to your problems is your responsibility and will define (or not) your ultimate success.
I echo the sentiments that it is great you are thinking about these issues – but so was someone else I know who was ultra keen and progressing vey well at age 17, yet to date he’s not been able to translate his good intentions and steady school days endeavours into investing success.
Maybe you can… best to give it a try at the shallow end of the investing pool and see.
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That’s why Dave and I continued with the accounting business and set up other businesses too.
Banks don’t want low-risk, they want no-risk. Strange isn’t it that they had crazy lending practices in the high rise market, yet didn’t budge much with traditional investing.
If worst comes to worse, do low-doc loans where they just ask for an income declaration and the source doesn’t matter.
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Mel is right about foreclosures. Unless you get to the vendor before the foreclosure, banks are:
1. Unable to release private details due to privacy laws; and
2. Must take the property to auction so that there is no implied funny business.
It is the same in NZ, however it is possible to broker a mass buy-out privately and do the occasional foreclosure pick up.
I think the same will occur here too as the market turns and auction clearance rates fall… you’ll be able to negotiate a great deal after auction if the property doesn’t sell.
In the States, people run classified ads asking people in financial trouble to call them because they buy houses fast and pay cash. Perhaps this market will develop here in Oz???
As for opportunities, who can tell? I just suspect there’ll be more problems calling for people with solutions.
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1. We worked as accountants to save up the capital to start investing.
2. Since we borrowed 80%, we needed to find 20% deposits.
3. We began with B&H, but soon realised that it would eat a lot of our capital, so we switched to the wrap strategy where we only needed bewteen $5k and $10k.
4. We sold some of our B&H property that had appreciated to access profits to buy more wraps. Later our wraps cashed us out and we used the profits to buy back into to B&H property.
5. All the while Dave worked as an accountant. I ‘sold’ information (forst) at wealthtipsonline and here at propertyinvesting.com. All the money we made went to buying property.
6. In the meantime I lived off $400 a month my wife gave me from her salary and Dave did likewise.
…oh, plus we both won lotto… []
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Yet I asked Brian, Andrew and Bruce to contribute as I thought it was necessary to show that my results were not isolated and that others were also achieving good success.
If you read their words they actually contain a lot of information about the struggles they grappled with, which while different, are still common themed.
Ideally, and without any disrespect, what I wanted to leave the reader felling was… if Steve and these other guys (from a broad background) can do it, surely I can too.
Sorry if this spoiled the read for you, but have another read and see if you can’t glean any insights.
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I’m all for blocks of units as it’s great to be in control of the body corporate. Surely the same logic applies that if it makes sense to own one – it makes sense to own the whole block.
There are problems too though… finance is a big one. Most lenders will tell you it’s a commercial deal and will proceed to either say ‘no’ or maybe limit your borrowing to 70%. This being the case, it can be capital intensive.
Also, with more dwellings, the maintenance is usually more of an issue too.
Finally, when it comes time to sell, you may find your market fewer in number as you really need to find another investor who’s willing to pay your price.
Still, I like the idea of owning blocks – provide the investing fundamentals are dealth with and the project makes the required return on my investment.
Good post and great question!
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Thanks for your post and welcome to the community!
Glad you liked the book []
One possible suggestion is to call several accountants in your area. The old-fashioned types still have a bookkeeping service (of varying sorts and ability) that you might find helpful.
Good luck and certainly make a post if you find someone of good ability.
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I agree that buying a -vely geared property would be a mistake to you as you wouldn’t be able to offset the tax loss against other substantial income, so unless you could (1) afford the loss and (2) buy in a time of considerable capital gains – then I think you’d find it a struggle.
My advice, if you are solid in your commitment to begin investing is to consider finding a way to buy the property you are currently in from the government. I understand they offer good deals to tenants who buy them out – so that may be your point of best advantge.
Then, if you can make some money on that deal, you could use your profits to pay the rent elsewhere while you also bought a second investment property.
It’s a medium-to-long shot, but perhaps it’s got legs?!?
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