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    biggaz13 wrote:
    I read somewhere that if you seek capital growth then Texas is a really good price to seek it. 
    But your entry cost is substantially higher since a lot more people are competing for the properties. 
    If you seek positive cash flow then you seek outside Texas.
    Perhaps a good balanced strategy is one property in Texas and two cheapies in Kansas City or Atlanta.
     

    Hey Biggaz

    To an extent I agree, if you were chasing a growth strategy then I suggest TX
    has the basics in place to a achieve that but they still have properties that achieve
    good positive cashflow as well which is my reason to be here. This week I have been looking
    at properties around $50k-$90k. After all costs and loan repayments are take into
    account (and I am doing my numbers on only getting 50% financed here) I am left with
    an average of $500 a week. Sure I could spend less and get some cheapies and aim
    for Section 8 tenants but that’s not a market that personally interests me. I did that option
    7 years ago in Phoenix and nothing but trouble and higher maintenance due to Sect 8
    standards that need to be maintained to keep qualified

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    petejac1 wrote:
    It's a big call to say Dallas is the place to be, you are aware how big the US is?

    Morpheusbushy, I felt exactly the same way.  I recently completed TLD International's Mastermind training in Florida and I now have a greater understanding of the whole buying process in Florida if not the states, as every state is slightly different.  While over there I picked up 3 properties in Fort Myers and can't be happier with them.

    I don’t think it’s that big a call at all. Just need to look at the fundamentals that apply to Texas.
    FACT. Over 70% of all jobs created in the US have been in Texas
    FACT. The cost of living index is the lowest in Texas. Houston #1 & Dallas #2
    FACT. The current migration trends clearly show huge amounts of people moving
    to Texas. Greater then the huge migration to New York in the 1930’s
    FACT. The shadow inventory banks are holding is going to have a huge impact on markets already effected
    by record foreclosures. The NY times ran an article on that today. Dallas has only 6 months
    of inventory which when taken with the other facts produces a simple supply and demand issue

    Yes the US is a huge market with markets within markets but this is the whole point of morpheusbushy’s original post…needing
    To narrow down the selected cities based upon current FACTS not based upon past performance

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    Hey just be aware that TX is a non disclosure state so sites like Zillow & Trulia do not work as well as other states
    Zillow actually states this if you dig into their sites. I am actually in Dallas right now and getting a couple of deals
    done this week

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    RickH wrote:
    there will always be a mark up if a company buys and renovates to on sell. They will always add the renovation cost as well as a margin (profit).
    I believe they do make good money on reselling but you are paying for the service and also it seems they work the prices out to achieve a gross return somewhere between 10 and 15%.
    My thoughts are not aimed at any certain company but just in general across the board.

    Rick… your spot on. You can't expect any company to take all the risk when they

    (a) buy the property with their cash,
    (b) do all the refurbishment at their expense and
    (c) lease the property to a tenant

    and still expect a bargain !! ….life just doesn't work that way.

    If you are chasing that bargain property then you need to go to the US yourself….snap up that bargain ahead of a US investor on the ground, do and organise all of the refurbishment yourself and then lease it out which is out of the question for most investors in Australia. This is the reason why all these companies have popped up in the first place….it would literally take weeks extending to months to do it on your own.

    I do believe the issue however is just how much profit do they need to make at your expense PLUS charge you fee's on top again. (This wasn't aimed at you by the way Rick…I know you are happy with your purchase and you have the right investment attitude and wish you every success)

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    Russ,

    Nothing beats being able to leverage in the US and yes the finance I have lined up is through a local Dallas lender. The property prices I am looking at range from $50K to $90K & Yes I also made the trip over in October as well…..mostly because I wanted to see for myself first hand and meet the people I would deal with face to face…gave me a lot of confidence.
    Just so I don't confuse the issue….you don't have to go to the US of course…it could have all been done by distance and I would have gotten the same outcome and to be honest….this is most likely how I will invest in the future now that I have made the contacts and built a high level of trust with them.
    Happy to pass on the details to you if you PM me…don't think I am allowed to plug them or give them free advertising on this site but also reiterate…in both cases the lenders would allow me to borrow purely because of the reputation and who I purchased through….I couldn't just buy using any agent or company and expect to get finance approved…..still seems to be a case of who you know while finance is so tight over there

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    Kenny,

    Guarantee that you will find this quite common. They will tell you stories like Zillow or Trulia is out of date, were renovated since, blah, blah, blah. <moderator: delete language> I think you would find plenty of info on MyUSAProperty in these forums which will give you the right idea. They will also suggest that financing is easy through LoansUSA but I haven't seen 1 poster yet that obtained it through them.
    I am going to Dallas this Sunday to purchase some properties myself without the assistance of a so called "Aussie Buyers Agent" and have the ability to get finance up to 50% minimum over a normal 30 year term. I likewise purchased last October ….again without a buyers agent and again had finance approved over a 20 year term.
    Appreciate that not everybody has the time to research and go to the US themselves to do it all and some assistance is needed but there are alternatives to the same company names that keep popping up (MyUSAProperty, Cash Flow Gold, 888 Wealth, Homebuyers USA and yet another new one US Invest)
    PM me if you want details or wait until I return early June so I can pass on the details after I have been through the process

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    Just sent the email with contact details now James

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    James,

    Tried to send you a PM….with the name of a NZ broker that is excellent to work with an experienced n dealing with investors but your profile doesn't accept emails

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    Hey Russ,

    a) You can raise cash through the equity in your own home here in Australia and effectively then become a cash buyer in the US. An Australian bank is not able to lend you funds using a US property as security
    OR
    b) raise cash through the equity in your own home here in Australia to use as a deposit and get the rest of the funding from a US source.

    Issues…

    • most people on the forum will tell you the difficulty in getting finance from US banks/lenders due to the lack of funding available.
    • only a few banks operate nationally in the USA (Eg Bank of America, Citibank etc) and none of these have lending programmes that allow lending to a foreign national (which is what you are called) since the GFC.
    • need to use lenders that will lend in your state of purchase or in the geographical area you invest in
    • issues involved getting funding for homes in foreclosure. Homes need to be liveable condition at the time of approval with no maintenance issues or structural issues allowed.
    • can use what are called "hard money lenders" but rates tend to be quite high (above 12%) and for short loan terms which can effect projected cashflow and as the name suggests…these people don't muck around.

    I purchased a home last October and fortunately it was relatively easy for me to get funding for 70% of the price paid. Loan in the name of my LLC over a 20 year term. I am heading to DFW this weekend to purchase some more homes and have finance pre-arranged for at least 50%….hoping to get this up to at least 65% and will be over a 30 year term. Very few have been able to achieve this and NO….I have not used a buyers agent in Australia

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    Adam2011 wrote:
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    Hi RickH & Biggaz,

    Congratulations to the both you on your purchases. Rick…I had been following you from the beginning….determination on your part got you there in the end.
    I can appreciate that most people don't have the time, the resources or the ability to invest in US property themselves so there is a reason why most will go to the Aussie "buyers agents". Rick…again I know you had done huge amounts of research yourself on Kansas City. Biggaz..you commented that you invested in Cleveland OH but still have reservations ?? Do you mind of I ask why you invested there anyway….even with the reservations. Was it because this was the city that MyUSAProperty recommended the most ?
    I made my first purchase in October last year and all is working out well for me to. I invested in an area north of Dallas TX. This was all done without a buyers agent. I'm not opposed to the concept….it's just that I was going there anyway so had no need to involve one. I had researched for 12 months solid myself so had the basics down. I was able to secure a property…get finance…get a great property manager…referred to an attorney & CPA….insurance, appraisals, title companies etc etc. I'm flying to DFW again in 3 weeks to secure my second property. A good friend of mine who lives in the US has just done the Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad course and part of it was investing in single family homes. He was then introduced to a property company in Dallas where he purchased 3 homes. 4 months down the track he told me about them. I contacted them and loved what I heard.  They have dealt with lots of Australian buyers so are familiar with our tax laws (including SMSF's). The statistics about Dallas are staggering and will amaze you. The prices have appreciated in the last 12 months and it's population is growing at a huge rate. I am looking at a place for $85,000-00. It has been refurbed extensively and it rented for $1100 a month. I will get finance from a local private bank for minimum 50% (but likely 65%) LVR so after taxes, insurances, loan repayments etc I am left with $600 a month net (@50% LVR). 15 minutes to downtown Dallas. Property Management is provided and all done on a web portal. Again I pay no buyers agents fee's as I am dealing direct with the wholesaler. If anybody is interested I might post details each day that I am in DFW as I am spending a week there looking at the options available
    Biggaz….one thing I suggest you do is look into seriously is then impact of owning the property in your name. You are automatically classed as a foreign owner at present and this will have big impacts on things like withholding tax (look up FIRPTA), US estate and gift taxes and eventually when you sell it.

    Speedygonzales,

    You say above your friend recently did the Robert Kiyosaki seminar and he recommended investing in single family homes?  I have been following Robert Kiyosaki and all he has been preaching about of late is investing in silver and gold?  Do you know anymore regarding the seminar your friend went to, as I would be very interested to hear some points of the advice, private message me if you can,

    Adam

    Hi Adam,

    My friend did the Rich Dad course in the USA where he lives. It was a course specifically covering single family homes. I agree…his latest books and emails indicate silver as his best choice but he hasn't went away from his same old philosophy….cash is king and that still includes real estate. Rather then giving a free plug to the company that he was then referred to I'll PM you the details….perhaps when I come back and have 100% of the info myself

    Speedy

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    Hey Portpirate,

    In my opinion….if they are so uncontactable now…..imagine what it's going to be like after the purchase (if you get there). Reading the posts….seems to be a common denominator with them.
    Why are you so keen to buy from them specifically ? Is is the fact they are Aussies so you feel you can trust them or is it that they are providing a one stop shop ?

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    PropertInvestor wrote:
    Anyone able to get FINANCE for USA property ?

    Hi Propertyinvestor,

    Let me make it clear….I am not offering to get US finance…not in the business. As an Aussie investing in the US market I sidestepped all the buyers agents and went to the US myself to do the groundwork. For my first property I purchased in the north of Texas…late last year I got finance at 70% LTV, 20 year term loan @ 6.75%. This was from a local lender and they will only lend in there specific area. Speaking to them….they have approved finance for another Aussie investor since but you have to purchase in this area and use a specific purchasing source known to the bank (and a customer of theirs)……the ONLY way you'll get in the front door
    I am heading to DFW in 2 weeks time for my second purchase and have finance lined up…..minimum 50% LTV but up to 65% depending upon how much paperwork I can provide them. It will be a 30 year loan this time and the rate will be a little higher but running my numbers I am still way out in front by leveraging. Again the only reason this is possible is due to the purchasing source being known to the lender.
    I'm not going to post details of the lenders etc….not pushing their barrow….you'll have to PM me to get details. It gave me great comfort knowing that the lenders did there own appraisals so I know I paid a local market value and didn't pay too much. It is very difficult in Texas as sites like Zillow or Trulia and the like don't work well in Texas. TX is a non disclosure state so sales prices do not get disclosed at the local county office and if you know how Zillow & Trulia get zestimates etc…you'll appreciate that in TX it's way off track.
    So it is possible for an Aussie to get finance….just need to know the right contacts

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    Younginvestor,

    I used to work in real estate/finance/marketing in Phoenix from 2001-2005 so I saw first had the boom beginning to take place….crazy times. I  am an active investor in US real estate and am heading to DFW in 2 weeks time to purchase another property.
    Personally I would stay clear of Phoenix for quite some time yet….I have many many contacts & friends and it would be really easy for me to purchase there but I won't be for some time. House prices have dropped by 42.5% in the last 5 years and dropped 13.4% in the last year with more to come.
    I cannot comment on the operators but you have large vacancies in Phoenix with a large inventory of stock available and plenty more to come yet.
    What on earth lead you to head to Phoenix…..must have had a convincing arguement !!

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    Hi Natasha,

    I flew into Gladstone last Wednesday to see the Gladstone market first hand for myself. I had a good friend of mine buy a house & land package in Gladstone last Sept and the home is being handed over this week so I did the inspection on behalf of my friend. (A formal building inspection was also done by a licensed builder)
    Gave me a good chance to see things first hand…spoke to local taxi drivers and they gave me a great insight into the rental market and what’s happening locally. FYI…when my friend signed the land contract the expected rent as $450 per week…..now rented for $550 per week for 6 months as agents expect rents to rise again once all the work starts. Having seen the standard of finish I am now going ahead with the same builder. PM if you would like more details that I can pass on

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    Hi RickH & Biggaz,

    Congratulations to the both you on your purchases. Rick…I had been following you from the beginning….determination on your part got you there in the end.
    I can appreciate that most people don't have the time, the resources or the ability to invest in US property themselves so there is a reason why most will go to the Aussie "buyers agents". Rick…again I know you had done huge amounts of research yourself on Kansas City. Biggaz..you commented that you invested in Cleveland OH but still have reservations ?? Do you mind of I ask why you invested there anyway….even with the reservations. Was it because this was the city that MyUSAProperty recommended the most ?
    I made my first purchase in October last year and all is working out well for me to. I invested in an area north of Dallas TX. This was all done without a buyers agent. I'm not opposed to the concept….it's just that I was going there anyway so had no need to involve one. I had researched for 12 months solid myself so had the basics down. I was able to secure a property…get finance…get a great property manager…referred to an attorney & CPA….insurance, appraisals, title companies etc etc. I'm flying to DFW again in 3 weeks to secure my second property. A good friend of mine who lives in the US has just done the Robert Kiyosaki Rich Dad course and part of it was investing in single family homes. He was then introduced to a property company in Dallas where he purchased 3 homes. 4 months down the track he told me about them. I contacted them and loved what I heard.  They have dealt with lots of Australian buyers so are familiar with our tax laws (including SMSF's). The statistics about Dallas are staggering and will amaze you. The prices have appreciated in the last 12 months and it's population is growing at a huge rate. I am looking at a place for $85,000-00. It has been refurbed extensively and it rented for $1100 a month. I will get finance from a local private bank for minimum 50% (but likely 65%) LVR so after taxes, insurances, loan repayments etc I am left with $600 a month net (@50% LVR). 15 minutes to downtown Dallas. Property Management is provided and all done on a web portal. Again I pay no buyers agents fee's as I am dealing direct with the wholesaler. If anybody is interested I might post details each day that I am in DFW as I am spending a week there looking at the options available
    Biggaz….one thing I suggest you do is look into seriously is then impact of owning the property in your name. You are automatically classed as a foreign owner at present and this will have big impacts on things like withholding tax (look up FIRPTA), US estate and gift taxes and eventually when you sell it.

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    It's not what the loan is secured by which determines it's deductibility….it's the purpose of the loan funds that determines whether or not the ATO will allow deductibility. So if you use all of the home equity loan to fund a deposit for an investment property then you should be okay. Just be mindful no personal income or expenses go through the equity loan.

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    Hi Bigaz13,

    Litigation is one aspect of why it helps having the property in the name of the LLC. A second reason which nobody has mentioned in this forum is the impact of FIRPTA (Foreign Investment In Real Property Tax Act) Withholding Tax. This applies not only to the sale of the property but also to the rental income you receive as a foreign investor. If you purchase in your individual name you will be classed as a foreign investor and your Property Manager then becomes the withholding agent for the IRS and withholds 30% of your gross rent each month. This is then forwarded and reported to the IRS by March each year.
    Once you lodge a tax return as the individual the tax withheld will marry up with your tax return and adjustments will then be made. You can then elect to have tax deducted as if you were carrying on a business in the US (rate then reduced to zero) and you then pay tax to the IRS net of all expenses. If your property manager doesn't know anything about it I suggest that they make themselves familiar with it as the IRS law considers them to be the withholding agent and will actively pursue the property manager for the tax they should have collected plus penalties. It's becoming one of the most common civil actions taken by the IRS

    If you purchased in the name of a LLC, it is considered a US corporation and the property manager would not deduct the 30%. Note that the LLC may also be liable for withholding 30% of the dividends it pay's to you but you will need to speak to a CPA for more details on how this can be minimised.

    An LLC also gives you some benefits with regards to estate and gift taxes being treated as a US corporation as opposed to owning it personally as a foreign investor

    Just an opinion formed and confirmed by a reliable source. I also have a link to the IRS website which explains this if you need it

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    Hi Steve,

    I suggest you at least contact USTaxCentral. James Simango based in Brisbane is a US & Australian CPA so he can assist with the US returns and also how it impacts on your Australian returns. He fully understands US real estate investing issues, LLC's etc.

    I'll point out that I am not associated with the company or it's directors…just giving you a suggestion. Just don't file late returns with the IRS or your opening yourself to penalties. The ATO might slap you on the wrist…the IRS use a big club and throw you in jail

    http://www.ustaxcentral.com

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    Hi Leo,

    If you are Australian and meet a few requirements (no criminal record etc) you can travel to the US on a Visa Waiver programme that entitles you to stay in the US for up to 90 days at a time. Don't forget that you need to do register with the Dept of Homeland at least 72 hours prior to departing and get travel authorisation…costs about $14 I think.

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    Hi 1 EyeOpen

    I would be interested in your views on why you would invest in Cleveland….not to make any criticism's at all….just curious from one investor to another.

    As of the 2000 census the city itself had a population of 478,403 and was the 33rd largest city in the US. The cities population has been shrinking since it peaked at 914,808 in 1950. As of the 2010 census which was released this month…it has declined a further 17% to 396,815 residents making it amongst the fastest declining cities in the last decade and now the 43rd largest city in the US

    As a property investor one of the basic fundamentals that I have looked at in the past is population growth. Without a growing population you can never expect appreciation, business will move on and more jobs will disappear which makes it hard to sustain a rental income long term.

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