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    hey regi

    Im young and lookin to buy my first ip too in victoria

    i set myself a 6 month research goal and another 6 months to find a place (on the assumption that first one is always the hardest to get/slowest coming

    i read a book a month on average, on all sorts of topics to do with property and have learned SO much so far.

    theres plenty still to learn but i feel confident enough to make an offer now (wheras i didnt, even 3 months ago!)

    all i can advise is u start reading
    if u want a list of books ive read and found hugely useful, feel free to drop me a line [email protected]

    Cheers, and good luck hunting!
    S
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    Hi Everyone,

    Great to hear what everyone does. So many different industries!

    One question tho, why is everyone SO bored??

    That and property is the only thing everyone seems to have in common – good for us!

    BTW im fast approaching 30, single and live in St Kilda Vic. I work for a bank (yes, that one!) as a document processer (sobs!)

    I am looking to buy my first IP before xmas!

    Happy hunting!
    Smyshyr

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    Hi guys,

    I think the trick is to find a PM who is actually proactive (just how you do this, im not so sure – maybe by interviewing them, just like u would if u were offering them a job!)

    I just dont understand tho, why anyone in their right minds would want to both build a property portfolio AND manage those pptys themselves! I think theyre mutually exclusive.

    If it costs you 5 to 7% to get them managed by experts (and as above, youve gotta find a PM whos an expert, but im guessing it can be done!) WHY WOULDNT YOU!

    I just SO couldnt be arsed, fixing sprinklers, finding new tenants, making sure the carpets are clean etc etc etc!

    I think if i had to do this, id ratehr stick with my J.O.B (just over broke).

    Get a professional to do it, and save urself all the hassle

    ” This has been my two cents worth”

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    Thanks for replying dennis,

    The thought only came to me recently, if you need to get 3 reports done anyway, were there any ppl out there who did everything in one hit.

    I thought as far as vendor/current tenant was concerned, the less ppl tramping thru the house the better,

    and as far as purchaser was concerned, any potential problems would come to light straight away and could be used to negotiate price downwards.

    anyone else have any comments?

    K

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    HI Maggie,

    Although I have had no experience with real estate agents myself, it sounds like you are dealing with a classic mode of operation of real estate agents.

    My understanding is that in order to get your business they tell you an inflated price, then once you have signed the contract to list with them (often tehre is a clause that forces you to pay them a commission even if you go to anotehr agent who subsequently sells your house – in effect you have to pay two commissions!!).

    Their next ploy is to try to get you to be “realistic” in your expectations of price, so they speak negatively about “the market” and your house so to “condition” you to accept a lower price.

    According to my research, the only thing these real estate agents seem to be intersted in is getting their commission for doing the least amount of work!

    This seems to be the way tradtional real estate agents work, so you need to be VERY careful!

    All this info is in a book called “dont sign anything” by Neil Jenman an ex-real estate agent, who believes in ethical agents. You can get his book from most bookshops.

    alternatively try the website: jenman.com.au, you might be able to get some info from them

    Good luck!
    K

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    HI there,

    I grew up in the tropics and all the houses up ther are steel framed or reinforced steel to be cyclone and termite resistant.

    We lived in our place for about 10 years and I cant remember it ever creaking! (even during high winds)

    If you are thinking about wooden frames I would try a termite-proof hardwood (yes such things DO exist) such as Jarrah. I lived in Perth for 5 yrs and all the houses there that are not double-brick are jarrah framed.

    I did read somewhere (no doubt hardwood propaganda), that during a fire sometimes steel roof frames can melt and the roof collapses (and by implication the wooden ones didnt collapse), but ud have to check this out for yourself I guess.

    Good luck
    K

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    Hey, Id do a ring around of some brokers, just to see what your options are!

    Be aware that what some brokers say cant be done, others will be able to do, so get 4 to 5 opinions.

    Set yourself a 3 to 6 month Research Project and just to find out all the different ways u and your uncle can work a deal.

    Remeber, the golden rule! ALWAYS ALWAYS put your agreement down in writing!

    Im going into partnership with my mum, and were planning to put our agreement in writing, just so both parties know where they stand.

    Good luck!
    K

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    I have read Dolf De Roos book and think its great!

    Although Id love to know more about his strategies $500 for a cd series and over $2K for seminar tickets is a little out of my league at the moment no ppor or ip…YET! but halfway thru my due dilligence atm.

    Is anyone with the audio cd willing to lend me a copy for a week or so, so I can listen to it myself?

    Id appreciate any help any of you can give me (and i promise cross my heart hope to die, poke a burnt stick in my eye! ill take good care of it – and ill even pay the postage!)

    Thanks
    K
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    Hi Vluu,

    I agree with some of the ideas of the other posters, but it seems that all the responses are from an arms length viewpoint. You sound like someone who doesnt want to be too hard on someone and since this is the first ip youve bought, u are understandably nervous about upsetting anyone. It also sounds like both u and the vendor are discussing things in a “take it or leave it way”. Why dont u go to him/her, tell them how much u have to make to cover payments, include a buffer and put it in the vendors hands. “Heres my problem, this is the minimum i need per week, now how can we make it a win win situation for both of us?” Negotiate it so that you both have to give up something. I think, judging by the rent he wants to pay you, he thinks ur a bit soft, and maybe hes taking advantage of that. Show him ur sums and negotiate some middle ground. You should get ur minimum payments plus something extra. If he cant afford to pay now, he needs to give up something on settlement.

    AND IN FUTURE, MAKE SURE U HAVE EVERYTHING IN WRITING FIRST!

    Good luck, please let us all know what u end up doing. I look forward to hearing how u handle the situation.Cheers K

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    Hi Guys,

    I was going to respond to Novices booklist with some others s/he might like to read, but then i thought I wouldnt be selfish and share the titles with everyone!

    They are:

    “are you dumb enough to be rich” g william barnett II http://www.areyoudumbenoughtoberich.com
    and
    “real estate riches” dolf de roos (one of the “rich dad/poor dad” advisor series) http://www.dolfderoos.com

    I knoow you can order the “are u dumb enough” book thru Borders bookstores in oz and the other i think u need to order thru the website, but both very good for non-traditional property.

    For the record i have 0 ppor and 0 ip, but hoping to buy an ip in melbourne by end of year with my partner

    We are also looking for cash investors atm as well, if anyone knows any! (We are offering capital guarantee and an interst rate to investors) – maybe this a silly question, as im sure everyone on here is too

    cheers
    K

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