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  • Profile photo of Shaw4DesignShaw4Design
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    June 8, 2011 - 12:11 am

    Sorry about that i havent been on in a few days due to work load. Yes i work in Frankston alot as i live in the area, As i said i put a fair few apps through there each month. Ive just had 3 conditional permits issued in the last weeek. I would not reccomend employing a town planner @ this early stage as any good draftsperson should know this stuff as its the basics.
    For my clients i prepare the above doc's as stated.

    MSS response
    SPP response
    LPPF Response
    Design Response
    Clause 55 Response
    TP Drawings

    You will need to acquire these items as neccesary also:

    Rescode Survey to AHD  $2000+
    Arborist report (if neccesary)  $600ish?
    App Form and fees $770

    i can put you in contact with the surveyor i use if you like. I use them on all my personal projects as they are the cheapest i have founf after ringing around 20 companies in the past.

    If youd like some help or direction let me know.  0430 571 044

    and again apologies for the late response.

    Profile photo of Shaw4DesignShaw4Design
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    June 3, 2011 - 4:29 am
    wealthyjvd wrote:
    Thank you kindly for the advice Simon!

    I have been hearing generally good things with re: to the Frankston council and very few hiccups that i guess is apparent in all councils which is good to hear. The property itself is no more than 1.5 km from the CBD, and an extra 500m from the beach. Its central Frankston, so its relatively close to everything.

    Could you please provide more detail about the CLAUSE 55, and AHD.. I will be getting a town planner to do all of the work so im assuming they will know what that is, right?

    Ive been looking around, and albeit in different arears i have seen 900sqm blocks with 8, 700sqm with 5. So i dont think 591sqm will be a problem for 3.. Just need to get in touch with the right planner and designer.

    Thanks again!

    Clause 55 is planning guide for multi residential developement. Ive lodged about 15 applications with Frankston in the last year and to be honets a town planner is an expensive exercise for such a small project, as i draftsperson i handle all my clients application within the design fee ( i think most drafting servioces do this also from everyone i know in the industry). I dont wish to contradict anyone here or tell you what to do but if a draftsperson cant handle your small application without the help of a town planner youve spoken to the wrong guy. Town planners are usually used more so for developements pushing the envelope and larger context developemnt. They are also usefull for VCAT hearings should it come to this. My advice would be to get a good quality local draftsperson to do the work ( alot of people of for city based companys) not always the best idea as developement in the city is denser and usually they will tell you you can fit on more than you really can without a lot of hassle. Eitherway i hope this helps a little as i dont want to tread on anyones toes with contradicting info, but i do have alot of experoence with Frankston council due to living in the area. All up a set of town planning drawings for 3 small units may cost $3000 as an approx value.

    The best thing you can do is get a full break down of what will be needed with the application. Usually alojng the lines of:

    MSS response
    SPP response
    LPPF Response
    Design Response
    Clause 55 Response
    TP Drawings @ A1$3000ish
    Rescode Survey to AHD  $2000+
    Arborist report (if neccesary)  $600ish?
    App Form and fees $770

    there may be a few other bits and pieces but thats most of it unless youre in floor prone or WMO or DDO or something else special.  Hard to say without looking at specofoc job.

    Again hope this rambling helps ;-)

    Profile photo of Shaw4DesignShaw4Design
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    June 1, 2011 - 5:30 am

    Hi Guys / Girls,

    Im new here and was googling forums on property investing / subdivision etc and found this and have read through for a couple of days and it seems quite active with new posts etc. I thaught id comment here to give you guys some recent feedback from Frankston council. They are quite fussy and not the easiest to deal with in my experience but in saying that all the applications ive ever lodged have been approved without too much hassle. Some planners tend to take a personal opinion on projects which is never good as they get a bit shirty when you point out the floors in there logic. Development close to the CBD is being encouraged and a better quality of housing stock (IE more people on a block) is what they would like to see but in saying that all the amenity (parking, POS, etc) needs to be suitable or else they wont approve it.In Regards to the stated block of 591sqm it seems reasonable. Just need to look into easements, overlays, etc etc. Please be aware also that when you lodge a multi residential development it needs a RESCODE (Clause 55) survey to AHD and this should cost between $200-$2600 with a re-establishment survey included. A small site like this shouldn’t be too much hassle.  Thanks for listening and hope this has helped in some small way. Look forward to participating in the forums more regularly.

    Cheers, Simon

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