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    What background are you from? ie do you have experience in property development, finance etc….IF not then i dont know of anybody that will “fork out the cash” for a joint ventrue :( sorry.

    I have connection with a range of people who are willing to provide private funds in joint partnership BUT generally speaking; In any joint venture – you will have to either

    1. Provide Cash
    2. Provide experience, connection and backing for the venture.

    If you dont have any of the 2 above, and just want to start from scratch ! no chance lol.

    Your best option is to stick with the residential property for now, and once y our IP or PPOR builds up at least 35% equity- you can use this as your “cash” to fund your commercial deals.

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    Phillyc wrote:

    Is it possible to reset the cost base by moving out and renting the dwelling during the DA process? I hope to be lodging in a matter of weeks.

    ie When I asked if it was possible to rent the property out again to reset the cost base to today's value. But was told.
    * There is no possibilityy of “resetting” the cost base as the 6 year rule prevents the “Home first used to produce income” rule being invoked. Basically if you rent the property out it is still classified as your main residence under the 6 year rule and therefore the cost base remains your purchase price.

    Why can't i elect to say that it was my PPoR until now. Get it valued to reset the cost base and then rent out until the DA is approved?

    You can;t reset a 6 years rule!
    since you bought it in 1999, it;s to late- you will still pay GCT for the part it was a IP.

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    Phillyc wrote:
    Hi All,

    From the headline it seems a bit tricky. I have received some property tax advice and want to double check it or find better!

    Situation details as follows
    * I bought my first home in 1999.
    * I lived their for ~18mths
    * I rented the house out for ~18mths
    * I moved back in and have lived there since
    * I have bought 2 IP's.

    During the period of ownership, zoning changes have been made. Allowing for re-development.

    * My house is very old & unrenovated.
    * I'm now married and have a young family.
    * I wish to build a new home for my family.
    * I wish to maximise the value of my property. Hence a subdivision.
    * Building is quite expensive as we know.
     
    I don't feel comfortable with a large personal mortgage and want to sell off 1 half of the block. With or without a house on it.

    I've been told by the ppty tax accountant that
    * if i subdivide the newly created subdivided vacant block i will pay $45k in CGT
    * build a house on that newly created subdivided vacant block i will pay GST & CGT totalling $110k

    I asked if it was possible to rent the property out again to reset the cost base to today's value. But was told.
    * There is no possibilityy of “resetting” the cost base as the 6 year rule prevents the “Home first used to produce income” rule being invoked. Basically if you rent the property out it is still classified as your main residence under the 6 year rule and therefore the cost base remains your purchase price.

    What is the best way to move forward on this?

    Regards and thanks

    Phil

    I suggest you get a 2nd advice of a tax accountant who specialize in GCT as this can save you THOUSAND!!

    Yes GCT is payable for your situation, because you fall outside the 6 years rule. But i think your numbers are not quite right.

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    Hi,

    1. You can claim any place as your residence but only one place will be your PPOR and only one of them can claim GCT exception at any one time.
    2. If this was your IP to start with, then it;’s to late to be excepted from the GCT – it had to be your PPOR then IP …in that case as long as you did not have a 2nd PPOR and you sell within 6 years you be fine – but not in your case. sorry

    3. You will have to pay only half of the GCT ( im guessing you had this place for more then 12 month)

    4. By living in the place for a certain amount of time- you can dilute the GCT payable to a point.

    5. GCT will be calculated based on the % you had this as a IP.

    Good luck

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    DJB79 wrote:
    Hi Michael,….spare $$$ went into paying our home loan down over the past 2 yrs.
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    It sounds like you have a bit of “redraw” or overpayment in your current mortgage – depending which product you are on you can redraw this $$ out without any refinance or paperwork.

    If your with CBA- log onto netbank -> go to “transfer” – > scroll down to homeloans/ redraw -> transfer available funds over

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    Jamie M wrote:
    Hi Sam

    Does sound weird. I can’t speak for the company you mentioned but if the mortgage broker aggregates through either Choice, Fast or Plan then this fee shouldn’t exist.

    Cheers

    Jamie

    This fee does not exit through ANY broker!! not just the above aggregators…i use to have direct accreditation and now i aggregates through connective and in both scenario fee’s were not payable.

    I suspect the company is pocketing this fee?? not sure….but if it’s a Advantage product- no fees.

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    DJB79 wrote:
    Hi Michael,
    Thanks for the info.

    The part my wife and I are mod interested in is how not to cross collateralise.

    We have no liquid assets ATM as all our spare $$$ went into paying our home loan down over the past 2 yrs.

    If we assume 280K property value and 225K loan, how would we go about accessing that equity?

    How much of that equity could we pull out?

    How does a LoC work?

    Regards
    Darryl

    Hi

    Read jamie’s post, it answers your questions- but adding on;

    The amount of “useable” equity you have in your current position is $20,500 ( after you refinance with a 90% LVR- paying LMI to QBE)

    If you went to your local bank and asked this same question; what they would tell you is to bring this loan over to them and then they will allow you to take up your 2nd loan using your first home as security – X-cross. A big NO NO!

    How would you go about this problem?

    1. Choose the right lender! NOT all lender allows refinance at 90% LVR with no question ask cash out! and some has restriction on postcode as well.

    2. Presuming point 1 is ok and your in the right postcode/area- refinance with the 90% LVR cash out your $20,500 equity which will help with your next purchase- dont need to be a seperate loan; can be one loan or split up to you.

    How Does LOC work?

    Similar to the above, but the loan itself is “interest only”, you can redraw as much $$ as you want and when you want up to your loan amount.. The interest is higher. Just more flexible.

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    DJB79 wrote:
    Hi All,
    I've scoured the finance section and haven't come up with a full answer thus far.

    My wife own our own home and recently moved to a large country town from the city.

    Our current property is being tenanted out $270pw with a loan of $225K (esitmate home is worth ~280K).

    We are currently renting in our new town.

    We're looking at building a place in our current town for ~300K.

    We then plan in ~3yrs moving back to the city and keeping both places as our portfolio.

    What are your thougths on this as a strategy, and what would be the best structure to put in place?

    Hi

    Sounds like a wealth creation strategy that John Fitzgerald uses…a strategy i personally think has many advantages;

    1. Since your “old” home will become a IP it will help with the tax part.

    2. A lot of people make the mistake of moving to a WHOLE new area and buying/building from day 1; But in your case- since your renting it gives you time to search for your place, understand the market better ( rental, growth?), get some local knowledge about the community and you still have the flexibility of building SOMEWHERE else if you find this place is not suitable.

    Finally the most important part of any wealth creation; the financial structure/ strategy to maximize benefit.
    Really need a bit more information for a detail structure; but the most important features are:

    1. Allows cash out…and for your benefit you might want to consider a lender with a no question ask 90% LVR cash out— it will help when cashflow is limited.
    2. Apply for Interest only for 5 years – this will imporve and provide better cash flow ( you need every $ you can get for the construction)
    3. Get basic Loan only- but one with unlimited redraw features
    4. Don;t X- cross any of your properties
    5. Soil test should be carry out if it’s a vacant land your buying
    6. Go with a lender that allows Valuation prior to credit check

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    investhut wrote:
    hi all,

    on my home bought for 220 K i currently own 25k. home should be worth around 240K i guess…

    here the forum members suggested i use my equity to manage 20% borrowing cost using my home.

    i even have to switch lenders as my current loan is with small provider..

    i went to 2 banks. they both are like yes u can borrow 400k no issue.

    but u will have to refinance with us. use both property as security…is this the best way to go…

    i earn 90k a year and wife earns 40k…

    1) whats the best way to go from here?

    2) if i pay off my loan in 2-3 months, have the title in my name only.. can i then use all the equity… say 240k?

    3) anz bank is saying we offer .7 off all loans over 300k, but could not find that offer anywhere online.

    any suggession/help appreciated.

    investhut

    Hi,

    Let me answer some of your questions and then i will provide you with a general recommendation;

    1. As jamie said – Do not x-cross your securities if you dont need to ( which in your case, you don’t need to cross…)
    2. Why did you choose ANZ? they are normally not the best for this sort of situations- they tend to x-cross EVERYTHING with there ” portfolio manger loan”
    3. The offer you are mentioning about ANZ is only available via a Broker or if you ask the ANZ branch manger/ specialist . It’s not available online…i have no idea why :( —- if you want the flyer/promotional material about this i can email it to you.

    There are a few products out there ( CBA, CItibank, AMP, ING) that offer 90% LVR refinance – and cash out up to the 90% mark – NO questions ask…I reckon this is your better option. No cross and access to cash – and if this is your IP then it has the tax advantages.

    But end of the day; you might want to speak to a broker.

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    Correct CBA’s 95% is for OO.

    The post didn’t state if he/she was applying for as a OO or IP….so i gave general information only.

    But for 95% Investment – NAB ( existing clients only)

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    This is one of many strategy that a lot of FP suggest or “market” But as Alistair mentioned; speak to your accountant first because;

    1. You still need your accountant to lodge the tax deduction, and if he has no idea what your doing …your going to have trouble
    2. It may NOT be suitable for everyone..
    3. Im not sure how the ATO would like this strategy :(

    I high suggest you speak to your accountant; or ask for another strategy from your FP if it’s to confusing ( there are more then 1 way to achieve what your asking…)

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    Your in luck; the 95% product has only been re-introduced 2-3 month ago…and there are plenty on the market!
    ING, suncorp and CBA( must be existing mortgage customer) just to name a few that offer the 95% lend.

    Homeloans LTD offer a 95% + LMI lend = so really its around a 97-98% LVR.

    I get flooded with emails with clients asking if they have 20k saved up does that mean they can buy a 400k place? – the answer is NO. Because the Stamp duty and another legal cost is still payable ..and this can cost up to $13-$18k; BUT of course this will does not apply to First home owners who can apply for the FHOG

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    I heard that on the radio as well..do you think it will apply to homeside as well?

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    no app or fee if you go through a broker only…. as direct client the bank have to do the paper work n chasing up etc….

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    ahha Jamie, i was thinking "paper trail??" sounds like something from 007…

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    SamAus wrote:
    Thanks guys.

    Michael thanks for your list. I really wanted to know if there is a popular choice for investors out there that everybody uses or if as you have done compare all the major and minor lending companies and choose the best one for me ??

    Does anyone know about Advantage – thru Club Finance (NAB) ???
    Sam.

    In the last 1 year, the most popular interest only i have put through has been NAB. Good rates, big bank, ok service, branch access. and 5 years interest only.

    But NAB doesn't suit everyone; but if your situtation is not complex and stright forward- why not.

    Advantage- thru NAB = NAB in 2005 i think bought Advantage, but be aware it's still a "seperate" enitiy- meaning rate can still go up without NAB autho and the company can still buckle; having said that No bank/CU really goes "bankrupt" it just gets sold off

    Still safe, lower rates becasue no branch access/ overheads. – give them a go.

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    sounds like the sort of accountant i want….sigh

    * by the way, very touching post – in a way i feel for your “lost” and i can see you and your accountant have a REALLY strong and good relationship. Just because your changing accountant doesn’t mean you can;t be friends anymore!

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    Mushroom, if your still thinking about this- just to let you know, for serviceability point of view the bank will convert all income into Aus currency and discount it off by 10%. so only 90% income considered.

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    ?? ummm from your post i take it your NOT a Australian resident or citizen?
    Then NO. sorry –

    If you are an Australian resident or citizen- then yes i can help, i have done it plenty of times for a selected bunch of my clients.

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    Gee you sure have big plans! ahah which is good.

    Im going to take a stab in the dark here; since you mentioned your eligable for the FHOG and your asking about the LVR- that means NORMALLY, you dont have much cash and no equity .

    If that is the case, then NO it;s not possible- even getting this at a commercial loan would take some skills and judging around ( possible) but at residential rate – no chance.

    Be mindful that:
    1. FHOG does NOT allow purchase under Company or trust name- so will you buy this under personal name and NOT claim any “Tax deduction ” for the business.
    2. for the shared use, you can only claim 50% etc… of the FHOG ( it’s the same as buying the place as PPOR and renting one room out) – in effect your renting one room out to your busines. This wont be the case if it’s a “home office”.

    Sorry for the bad news, but if you flick me an email, i can look at your “financial” and work out if you can borrow under commercial and at what rate.

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