After you get your first 3 properties it’s much easier to buy the next 5,10…etc because of your total equity worth which gives you a leverage in term of buying power. Just have to make sure the right structure is used and you keep on changing to adopt to your changing financial situations.
It also helps to have a team of professional who can synchronize to your needs and they understand each another’s need as well ie your Accountant must agree to the strategy employed by your Mortgage broker or Financial Planner.
Rhianna, most banks will be ok with Mat leave return. As long as you explain this to them- and provide proof ie past payslip + letter – you will not have a problem.
Personally i did something similar to the above 5 points as well i have to admit.
Property 1 – Used my parent’s as guarantor …was only 19 so yea needed a bit of help
Property 2 – after 1 year, bought my 2nd one on my own.
Property 1 went up in value- release parents as guarantor
Used the equity of property 1 and CROSSING property 1 to buy property 3 and 4 – due to lack of funds and sightly high LVR.
When i was making a stable good income, with a good deposit- uncrossed property 3 and 4 – and went into property development.- currently in the process of building a small block of units.
So as you can- crossing does work, and has many advantages- but if you don’t need to- dont….if it saves you a lot of $$ and your able to enter the property market because of crossing; then it’s also not to bad.
Yes it can. Both me and my brother started young with the help of partents for deposit and guarantor – and now we actively search for more IP….and just build build build! – allowing us to do what we enjoy- Property invesment/developments
This is tricky, you will def need to speak to a accountant and a lawyer to write a “contract for you” even thought it’s family, a written contact wont hurt.
Im going to talk from past experience, so it may NOT apply to your situation- we had a few clients who apply for a loan with a similar situation to yours…there was a few points that should be taken in consideration in term of finance to avoid trouble.
1. banks will only lend for construction on a land that’s mortgage via them – ie they will not be 2nd mortgagee holder! ( unless it’s Bank sa- > st George bank)
2. Banks are cautions about lending money for a land NOT own by you-
There’s a few ways around these problem, depending what you do with the land ie sell half?
Regards
Michael
I suggest speak to a broker, rather then you going to different small banks your self
1. Save time
2. You dont want to many inquires on your CR ( will cause a massive problem)
Your another options is to build one first, then instead of selling it- get it RE-valued…and if the price is high you can use this as a 2nd security to build the next one- Yes you will be crossing your loans. but it’s one of your only options with your serviceability.
I also notice you mention the property being under your name only…I mean if your married you can use your partner as a guarantor for the loan to make it service?
A guarantor loan would def work in this situation.
Emptyvessel -from a consumer’s point of view and someone who has NOT yet been bunrt by the bank i understand where your coming from. But it’s common for banks to:
1. Stop lending to you- once you reach a “certain” threshold, especially your income DOES NOT increase and your relying heavily on your rent and capital growth – they see this as a risk…if you lose your job they potential will lose a lot of money if they hold 5-6 properties under their belt…..they prefer to spread the risk at a certain point- depending on the client.
2. If the rate increased for that ONE lender- ie look at what CBA did !!! 0.45%…..all your properties will be hit- wouldn’t you want to spread the risk? …reason why people buy in different states and buy different types of shares..
3. If you wanted to buy a unique property- ie a studio accommodation or a commercial property, the bank your dealing with might not lend for that sort of property type- so you might be force to “untangle” your properties anyway in order to go to a different funder ( as terry mention, no banks is willing to be 2nd mortgage)
4. If your force to sell due to financial problems- see terry example above.
All good if you have NO problem…but when a problem arise- you better watch out. All about risk prevention. and asset protection.- if you can WHY NOT?
I understand your frustration! you work hard, and when you go to the bank to borrow money they reject you! like your some sort of disease or criminal.
But if you look at it from the bank’s view- if you can’t mathematical “afford” the loan, then it would be bad practice for them to lend you this money, forcing you to work more just to make end meet.
To be honest there’s not much even us broker can do if you “lack ” the serviceability, no matter how creative we get if your serviceability is very low, there’s only so much one can twist….if you have more money going out then coming in; then it’s hard to convince a bank to give you extra funds.
The question is, How bad is your serviceability? are you off by $50,000? $100,000?
Emptyvessel- Best to uncross if you can especially if you plan to expand in the next 3-4 days.
I wont go into the math of the available equity, since Terry has covered that part already; But if your interested in HOW to use this available equity or the process, i will give you a very quick run down on a simple and common equity release- there are plenty of another creative ways ( IO, LOC, Portability loans…ect), depending on your situations.
1. Once you determine how much available equity you have- apply for either a top up or REFIN, and split the loan as 2 payment- which lender you choose will depend on your “purpose”.
2. Use the spare funds for another investment.-
Repeat for next place….but you must be able to service the loan
in regards to getting other valuation done in a short period of time, it’s fine as long as you have a good reason to- ie you have done some renovations- You be surprised i help a client reorder another valuation 4 month after settlement because he spent $10,000 on renovation ( well documented) – and this increase the property valuation by a whooping $170,000! allowing them to buy another property in a short period of time.
You never know if you never try- but of courses do it in a smart one…ie get a free/discounted valuation…and no CR checks..
If you order your own Valuation yes it’s tax deductible for IP’s, and no the bank will not use them, but you can use them to “dispute ” a bank’s valuation if there is a huge difference.
I have to say I think trusts are extremely complex. The tax law regarding trusts is vast and largely uncomprehendsible to the majority of accountants and tax advisors. The same with the law surrounding trusts. It is vast and complex with the average lawyer not knowing much about it at all.
I think many people don't even consider a small fraction of the things they should when setting up a trust.. eg Duties of the trustee..
Terryw- in regards about the accountant- I absolutely agree!
i personally had to replace my accountant who i have been doing business for the last 10 years, because he didn’t entirely understand how to set up the trust to my needs. A shame..
well if that $500 for a depreciation schedule -That’s fine.
Paying LMI should not be a taboo, for some property investors ( like my self) they will use LMI as part of their wealth creation strategy; as it has some tax advantages+ ability to invest into another project faster (better cash flow) .
Im going to make a huge assumption here- since you can afford a mortgage of >$600,000 in north shore property + another IP purchase- your combine house hold income is relatively high- Having this IP at a higher LVR say at 85-90% LVR with the LMI capped into the loan may be beneficial in term of the interest deduction ( tax deduction) – This will free up a lot of cash for you to purchase your next IP + cash for Holiday and spare cash.
The way i will structure this loan ( subject to serviceability) is what Jamie has mentioned; Refin your HSBC as a SPLIT loan ( this is a must) one split for the PPOR and another for IP-use this for the deposit/renovations/ Valuers cost – hence you are using your equity to finance the cost involved for the IP + the interest is tax deductible. Also loan will be done as a 100% offset for the PPOR part, with interest only for both splits.
Just one note on the trust, it will not give you any “personal ” tax advantage” – ie the lost or interest from the trust can not be claimed via your personal income.
The main benefit of a trust ( My assumption and answers are based on a discretionary trust) are;
Hi steve,
There’s a lot of numbers there- i will have to sit down and work it out and post back later – bur for now i will answer your 4 questions.
1. Trust is quite simple- it’s similar to a company, but the pit fall is WHICH type of trust you want to open and What structure/how – this will have a huge bearing in term of your tax and financial objective – you will need to speak to a accountant/ financial planer for this part.
2. The high LVR has started to come back. 85% LVR – no LMI. Any LVR higher- LMI is payable, but depending on which lender you go with it can be reduced by 50%.
3. I will need to work out your above number to see what your serviceability looks like.
4. $500 is over priced for a valuer, it’s normally around $220 for a private valuer! can i ask whats the reason for getting a valuer? It sounds like your after a way to increase your rent-wouldn;t speaking to your agent who deals with this on a regular basis make more sense?
They are just mortgage brokers who “specialize” in equity release and debt recycling – a service most brokers can offer these days.
Do they charge any fees? because what they offer is what most brokers can offer for free…
But no i have not heard or dealt with them before.