it’s 12 month before you get the 50% discount on CGT..
HOWEVER i dont think the original poster was asking about CGT — as a matter of fact i dont think he/she is selling lol
Amit – since it’s been your investment home for only ummm 1 -2 month? ( may – June) then what ever you get from the depreciation report it will be pro-rated 2/12….so may not be worth the money; given that it’s a small unit as well…but you can always ask for a free quote to see what the quote comes up as ..
Also as a side note…you mentioned the population is 15,000; it sounds like it’s still part of a rural area ( given the returns and sale price as well)- this alone may push it outside the resi lenders comfort level.
Is there any chance of getting a Block of Flats with 90% LVR?
Circumstances as follows; Buy Price $900,000 Return $85,000 pa Fully tenanted No strata- just 7 flats on one block Located in a strong regional centre with population 15,000 Cash I can put into the deal: $90K My Annual salary: $90K My equity in other property: $130K
I'm aware of one lender who will go to 80% lvr, on the condition that the individual flats are all 50sqm or greater. These flats measure 46sqm, so dont qualify.
The alternatives I have at the moment are mostly commercial loans and 65%- 75% LVR.
Any creative suggestions to finance this investment? would me living in one help?
90% LVR – no
80% LVR – yes, even if the unit are only 46 squ it’s fine with 2 another lenders…as long as it fully Self contained, in an area with comparable sales, not student accommodation etc and zoned correctly. – Resi Rates/deal
At 55%-60% LVR – The above condition are less strict and can still be pushed as a resi deal.
And as you mentioned, pretty much anything is possible at commercial rates
P.s you living there makes no diff.
Do you have any resi property you can access equity to lower your LVR?
HI- yes there are a lot of talks lately about trust etc..but it’s not for everyone; i know of many investors who just buy under their own personal name.- speak to an accountant for this one.
With $150k, depending where you buy and what the average price is…yes you could buy 2-3 property. Note: you still need to pay for stamp duty, legal etc …so your $50k each.. becomes more like 35k each – but a 90-95% LVR lending could help, SO choosing lenders that will give you a discount for your LMI is beneficially.
Buy a place that’s slightly worn out- nothing major and since you have time on your hands you guys can do it up- paint etc…
Also given your age, how much you have in your super will become important at one stage in the lending process.
I would not reply on an bank’s online calculator
1. it’s not updated…ANZ one is like Nov 2010
2. It’s alwasy “better” compared to when you apply for the real thing….i guess they make you feel happy and once your sucked in it’s to late
3. It does not allow for more complex situations
Either speak to a broker or a bank manager and get them to give you the updated calculations based on your personal situation.
This is all very interesting reading. I learn sooo much from you guys here.
I would suggest that Johnny sit down with an accountant who knows about property – and run through the scenarios. You might consider one of the guys posting here. You need to make decisions on your own position and desired outcomes.
This forum is GREAT for learning and finding out where to begin.
I agree on the reno strategy- e very careful in this- it can turn into a night mare . Get advice- or a coach.
On top of that Johnny it be worthwhile contacting Richard via phone so he can go through with all your questions- it’s free and it never hurts to have a great broker on your side- like Richard
Short answer – yes it does affect your personal serviceability. As you need to declare all asset and liabilities you hold :
1. Personally
2. As a guarantee/ guarantor
Trust and company falls into the 2nd slot.
But as mentioned, there are some lenders that will ignore a trust’s asset and liabilities if your overall personal case is strong and your under a certain age etc..
But the real question is,is your serviceability really tight???
My first issue is that I am self employed in sales and whilst my income is above average, getting finance obviously has it's hurdles.
Hi Mark,
First of all- great post Emma.
Mark – how long have you been self employed? self employed is NOT the end of the world…i mean there are over 2.6M registered and active ABN in Australia; if your happy to post some of your details up we could give you a bit more info if finance is possible
1. Number of years with active ABN
2. Does your incomes influz a lot between each year? and if so…whats the difference between the last 2 financial year? ( if less then 2 years ABn…difference in the last 6 month)
3. GST registered? and how long
In terms of financing…
Commercial lending is very similar to residential lending, with only a few pitt falls to avoid + a few tricks to execute.
In fact, a few lenders uses the SAME form or similar form for the commercial and residential lending.
Main differences: Points the lender will look at;
1. Rate is higher – starts around 8.5% variable ( not intro)
2. Rental income is accepted at a certain % and it’s case by case …depending on the business your buying.
– example-
– Rental income from a shop front ( currently a bakery) – will take around 70% of rental
– Rental income from a Office ( currently rented to a accountant) located in CBD – wil take up to 90% of rental
– Empty shop front- will take 30% of potential rental
The trick here is HOW you PRESENT the loan, very important.
3. The security on offer; if your willing to use a residential property as 2nd security then rate would drop close to residential rate ( 7.15-7.8%)
4. Lease term- How many more years are left on the lease and what sort of lease is it.
5. Zoning – what uses does this property have?? can it be a car-workshop etc…
Normally Mixed zones are the simplest to approve.
6. Experiences. Depending how big the loan and deal is…the bank may only lend if your have experience or some sort of banking ( strong financial) for commercial deals. – But in your case, since the loan is under $500k this is not going to be a problem.
In term of deposit; LVR must be under 80%, preferred to be under 65% LVR ….UNLESS you have another security for the lender to fall back on; can even be a 2nd mortgage ( ie no need to refinance to them)
Regards
Michael
I have never been near Commercial Property however when I see a Strata Title office for $575,000 (No GST applicable – to be sold as a Going Concern) with an annual income of $40,790 the return is a lot more impressive.
The property is located in a prominent inner suburb of Perth in a busy area with good surrounding tenants.
What kind of closing costs should be allowed for a commercial acquisition and what would be the financing requirements?
Any other comments in regard to it being a Strata Title?
7% is nothing special for commercial property…unless this is located in a very good location and chances of long term vacancy is low??
Just be aware;
1. interest rate for commercial deals is around 8.5-10% so this will eat into any returns at 7%
2. There are a lot more fee’s involved + vacancy problems
3. Strata is alwasy a lot higher compares to resi
4. Insurance, maintenance and agent fees are all higher.
Ohhh god 4 BAS???! geee that reminds me now why i dont recommend Bank-west’s Lo-doc product
Bankwest is not great for construction because they dont provide a lot of flexability; it’s their way or NO way!
1. 60% LVR for low doc construction is pretty standard- with the well known banks anyway.
2. If your after a 70-80% LVR…then there will be insurance involved + the rate will go up.
3. You can swap from low-doc to full doc after 6 month..and get placed on cheaper rate etc…
4. There are a few lenders that will do 60-80% LVR with either of these combination
A) 1 BAS + 1 accountant letter 1 BAS + 6 month trading statement
c) 3 month trading statement + account letter
d) Accounts letter only( LVR max at 60%)
Of course they are all different lenders…it just depends what suits you the most/ or which would get you OVER THE LINE.
Im with the anothers..OTP is a big no no for me…
1. Your paying today’s price…by the time it’s finish the market would be a lot different…
2. Investing 10% and not seeing the good till 1 + year later, that’s one years rental yield gone.
3. Risk of not completing/delays , price increase, construction problems etc…
4. Dont know hows the strata is like.. only a prediction- there’s a famous case of the apartment in Sydney CBD in pitt st…where after completion the strata went from $900PQ to $1400 PQ…due to unforeseen problems that was not part of the builders granuntee.,
I would only consider OTP if it’s sold below the current market by at least 10% + your have another good foundation investment properties and lastly instead of giving 10% cash/cheque…do it as a deposit bond.
*** bank-west is def not a low doc provider i would consider for construction…as a matter of fact Bank west is not one i would recommend for standard full doc construction ( unless ur a existing client) ….let alone a low-doc loan.
No doc loan- are fading out for sure…i only know of one small lender that still offer this- but most likely wont be for long.
Low- doc- It’s still around i can guarantee you that! – however it’s slightly different and the bank do ask for different paper work + LVR is much lower, which bank…out of 42 that i deal with 15-16 of them still offer low doc to a certain level…so it depends on what your situation is like; because if one bank dont like your deal..another one will.
To date, i haven’t had any major issue with low-doc… beside low-doc refinance which is a real pain in the ass.
I am back from my big day. Can anyone recommend me a book that can explain steps purchasing first home? I am about to buy my first home next month, yet unsure steps to be taken.
I dont think there’s any book that’s worth purchasing….
The big 4 banks have a information booklet that you can get fro the branch/download which explains the step in buying your first home …also our firm has one we written as well- But im sure you can get most of this information online VS buying a book…
Im alwasy happy to help, many years ago someone helped me start up my online bushiness and now i do it full time with a great bunch of great passionate staff. – i believe in good Karma…so it’s my turn to help where i can
Shoot me an email or give my office a call and we can have a chat; and ill see if i can get you connected with a few people in the industry + i know how the Gov business grant process work so i might be able to help you with setting up a grant with the Gov.
Of course, this comes with no obligation or financial /personal gain what so ever- just happy to help where i can.