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    Ferdinand – im not registered to advice on REST product…and to be honest i dont know much about what REST offer.

    However being “student” financial planer in training i do know you can get a lot of these “life” insurance via your super- so give REST a call and see what the offer is…yes you can simple increase the limit as you wish; it’s normally written in your quarterly super statement

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    ferdinandch wrote:
    Guys,

    I am considering to get a life insurance, trauma insurance and income protection insurance. Do you know how much I have to pay in premium for a decent cover?

    Recommended Cover Details
    Term Life Cover : $ 700,000
    Income Protection : $ 3,000
    Trauma Cover : $ 150,000

    I got this from iSelect SOA. But they didnt give any quote for the premium. I actually hate how it works.

    Many thanks for any suggestion and help

    Ferdinand

    You can get the term life and trauma via your super ( AMP allows income protection as well) …

    1. prem can be paid via salary sacrifice before tax
    2. using and tapping into your super in a effective way

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    MissiMoo wrote:
    Hello all, I'm new to this forum and really came here looking for advice or ideas. I'll give you a bit of the background story first. My husband and I bought a studio in Sydney (Chippendale) two years ago for $240,000 to live in. We didn't have enough of a deposit for the banks being the studio is 32 sqm. My parents went guarantor for us. We have had the studio valued by a real estate agent recently and they advised we could sell it for $340,000. Our home loan is down to $200,000 now and so I would like the bank to release my parents as gaurantors seeing as we have brought the loan down to that level and the property is now worth more than we purchased it for. Do you think they are going to allow this? If not, is there anything we can do to make them release my parents. 

    The second thing is we may be moving and are considering selling the unit once we know if we are definitely moving. Do you think it would be worth it to have a loft area built in our unit to make the unit larger so that it is more appealing for re-sale or should we just leave it as is?

    The studio has high ceilings so a loft area would fit nicely and not take away from the space of the unit. We also have a pull down bed and custom made mirror built-ins. We have lived there very comfortably and so we don't know if we should go ahead with improving the size or not. I look forward to any suggestions or information anyone has. Sorry, if this is a long post and I sound clueless.  

    HI,

    Firstly- which bank are you with?? a few banks have recently changed their rules meaning instead of 80% LVR as acceptable “risk” they may want the LVR to be as low as 60% before they would allow your parents to be release.

    If it comes down to push and pull…you can alwasy refinance as well to a lender that allows a higher LVR- hence releasing your parents from the security + possibly drawing some equity to fund for some of the renovations.

    Generally speaking on a 32 sq meters with no car space and balcony space included – your max LVR would be 70%; if your an existing client of CBA or ANZ they may push it to 80% ( but unlikely – as releasing your parents security has no advantage for the banks)

    About the price…i currently have a 1 bedroom + study investment property also in chippendale…and it’s a on the good street as well ( start of Regent street- next to central/ office of marriage and birth etc) …prices in the city influx quite a bit- do your own research dont trust the agent to much…..i bought mine in 2008 for $420,000 end of last year the agent said it would go for $580,000 min— placed it on the market for 3 month …and the highest offer was $495,0000 :(
    banks value come back as $485,000….

    Chippendale has dropped a bit leading up to this year; due to over development and over supply of units currently…but it will pick up as demand in the city are quite high— so i say hold off on the sale for a bit till the market improves… especially when rates are expected to drop…(according to westpac)

    Lastly about the Loft- i say dont waste your money or time on it;
    1. you need DA approval + strata…will cost you quite a bit + construction – the amount of $$ spent on something that doesn’t add a lot of value .
    2. It will make the place look even SMALLER with the extra clutter and walls etc…

    P.s I didn;’t end up selling my unit, due to the value….and it brings in rent of $680 per week…so no rush to sell.

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    mwenborn wrote:

    I am interested to hear whether anyone has information regarding how NRAS properties are being revalued.

    I recently had my NRAS property revalued with the intention of releasing equity only to be informed by the bank that due to it being NRAS, it cannot be valued against all similar properties, but only against comparable NRAS properties and the resulting valuation came back at less than purchase price. Basically they said that as far as the valation is concerned, the pool of potential purchasers is limited to those who want to invest in an NRAS property.

    I am intersetd to find out if others have had the same experience or whether anyone knows any facts about how an NRAS valuation should be performed.

    If this practice is correct then it seriously limits the benefits of NRAS properties in my mind, due to the limited ability to gain access to equity for additional purchases.

    Sounds like your using St George bank? – i know The dragon has this requirement- hence why i stopped using them for NSRA lending.

    There are still a good handful of another lenders that will do NRSA valuation as standard.

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    siraitken wrote:
    Shape,

    In this example is the interest on Loan 2 tax deductible?

    If not, what alternative solution would you recommend if you still needed the $100k for a IP deposit?

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    Dave

    It is.
    There are many ways to achieve a similar outcome- it all depends on your overall LONG term goal and objectives ie planning a construction? wanting to buy it in a trust etc…the above example is one of the 3 common ways to make Loan 2 tax deductible.

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    luke86 wrote:
    Michael- I thought it depended largely on what your occupation is (i.e. whether it is a stable industry with a skills shortage or an industry with an oversupply of workers) or am I wrong???

    Cheers,
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    Luke- your right to a point…ie if your a Nurse or in an IT related field..you normally “contract” and this will be a problem.

    But if it’s full time moving to any PERM full time that’s fine with some banks- ie NAB at a certain LVR.

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    Buddy you chosen the right lender then.
    NAB will not have a problem with your job change over.- but my suggestion is to leave it as it is….if they do a 2nd check then you take the next step to resolve.

    If the branch staff/loan manager is telling you another-wise…shoot me an email and ill have a chat with them.

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    aprateek – Your LVR is good; no insurance involved; now the main question which bank??

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    or your another option is to delay the start date…im sure if they really want you they would understand.

    But really as part of responsible lending; you should let the lender know…but it may be a catch 22- you die if you dont…you die if you do.

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    Normally a lot of banks will say no- because
    1. you be on probation
    2. No job stability
    3. They “may” do a final check before settlement – you dont want to risk it…as they have the right to pull out.

    Some banks are ok with probation; so Which bank is your unconditional with? also what is your LVR?
    Worst comes to worst; you will have to find new lender at the last minute – and you will have to do it QUICK!!! ASAP.

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    Terryw wrote:
    Friggen helll! $500,000 cash.

    I would immediately take some legal advice on asset protection. Possibly gift it to a discretionary trust and then take a loan back from the trust to invest the money, or buy a PPOR etc.

    Later on if you were to get sued, for eg, then the money would be still repayable to the trust.

    This would also help with tax. eg you pay cash for a PPOR using borrowed trust money at nil interest for the first x years, variable rates, and then move out, the loan could revert to 7% and the whole interest on the loan deductible.

    Many things to consider before you start to consider investing.

    From a true voice of a good lawyer ahha

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    hawko79 wrote:
    Hi Shape,

    Thanks for your response. If I decide to buy a house I'd want to try and get the FHOG. I'd live in it for 6 months then rent it out. Therefore it would be best if I could get a loan for most of the purchase price so I can claim the interest deductions instead of using my own cash to purchase it.

    Sorry if I am stating the obvious, just want to confirm that I am on the right track.

    Thanks again, much appreciated.

    Regards,
    Matt

    I dont know which state your in…but my ans will be based on NSW.

    That’s true get the PPOR for the FHOG- but really in affect doing it this way your only saving the $7,000 and buying the PPOR the bank will NOT lend you anything ( ie no income/ rent to support the mortgage) ; however down the track when you do get a job…you could release some equity. refinance to borrow the funds then.

    If you bought an INV first then PPOR- you could borrow the funds based on the rent ( not much i have to say as well) and yes you will not get the FHOG benefits…but you will still be entitled to the no stamp duty ( $500,000) when u do buy your PPOR…but lose out on the $7 benefit.

    Of course if you got a job; this would be a diff story.

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    Get job first then buy..that why u can lavage more from the bank; rather then using all ur cash.

    In regards to the rual VS inner—it’s a personal choice and depends on your overall financial “plan”…i have personal have only invested in Inner city and have 6 good foundation property all with good capital growth ( all within 1-30km of CBD)…VS my older sister who has 17 properties but mostly located in the rural regions ( 30-100km CBD) —- one has good rental one has good capital growth.

    Never hurts to have a mix of both; but i say for ur first property get a good “foundation ” property that you can keep on leverage against ( ie a capital growth property- established area)

    Generally speaking House alwasy brings more CG then units- CG comes from Demand ( land) , location and gentrification.

    P.s you can stil get a loan based on your “rental” income – just not a LARGE loan…

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    Agree with xdrew here…with no job- you best to go for IP first — produce rent ie around $15k-20k per year..and can be used as ur “job income” for your next purchase the PPOR OR IP 2…

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    ferdinandch wrote:
    Hi Michael and Terry,

    Thanks for replying

    There was no problem with the loan. Tomorrow, my broker said, bank will give unconditional approval. Bank also values the property as very low risk property.

    I read the sale contract again and all the descriptions from the council, nothing is worrying. Not affected by any hazard risk. My solicitor mentioned about that before I exchanged the contract.

    Now my only concern is I need to order building report ASAP. And Friday is the end of cooling off period, means I need my solicitor to ask for an extension.

    I checked again the sale contract, there is title search performed on 31st May 2011. It should be recent then.

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    Ferdinand

    Fair enough- didnt sound all that positive compared to your another post…it was so negative + you sounded worried lol

    Glad it’s working out either way!

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    Terryw wrote:
    Thats the trouble with using a cheap solicitor. high risk for the client and themselves.

    I would say that’s what happen when you use a “Money driven” and greedy solicitor- you get the service you pay for :(

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    ferdinandch wrote:
    Guys, will appreciate a lot if someone can give an answer to my questions
    1. My solicitor did not tell that I should order building report prior to paying10% deposit (expiration of cooling off period),is it normal? I decided to get it ordered tomorrow.

    2. My solicitor said will do the title search later near settlement day, is it normal? When normally it needs to be done?

    3. What I need to do between the expiration of cooling off period till the settlement day?

    I got the strata report, it seems all fine, but it mentioned smth about flood vulnerable area, and some townhouses in the strata, got flooded once or twice. (Not my townhouse). Therefore I am now lil bit worried for not ordering building report before.

    The property is 30 years old (all the townhouses under the strata).

    Umm your solicitor isn’t really good…

    1. solicitor Should have advised all reports to be done to cover his “legal ass” before 10%- it takes 1-3 days for the report…as need to have access
    2. Title search should be in the sale contract; but one can be organised online for $19 instantly
    3. Get finance ready…As a matter of fact…i normally DO NOT let my clients place a 10% down unless the finance is 1-2 days away form “unconditional approved “; because a lot of banks can not get the approval done within the given 5 days.

    – Flood- If your area is flood prone ; your going to have a bit of trouble with the valuation + bank… look at the sale contract – it tells you the flood ratio ( or go to the council websites..it also tells you the flood ratio for each street- it’s part of their flood control management department) — if the ratio is LESS then 1: 100- you be limited to only a handful of lenders that would finance this place
    If it’s 1: 50- then you better make sure the LVR is less then 65% and you better consider getting your 10% deposit back…hopefully it’snot less then 1: 25…

    So my advice- read the sale contract- something your solicitor should have done for you before 10% ( or email me the contract and i can check the flood level for you if you want) + jump onto the councils website and check the flood ratio for that street.

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    Terryw wrote:
    You would probably be able to claim a deduction based on the rate for the engine size x KM travelled for IP related matters

    Terry- Good point – can def claim petrol and travel expense; but you rekon they can claim for the purchase it self + depreciation etc ?

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    amsaini15 wrote:
    Shape wrote:
    https://www.loans.com.au/Pages/Home.aspx Ummm did loans.com.au just increase it's rate from 6.59- too 6.69 ??? without RBA movement, or was it a special rate etc??? and it looks like they changed the "5 years RBA linkage" down to 3 years..wonder what else has changed?

    Michael, As per their press release on 31st May 2011 (https://www.loans.com.au/Pages/Media-Release-31-May-2011.aspx )

    “loans.com.au’s new variable rate of 6.69% pa will have a special 0.11% discount for new loans during the month of June, making it 6.58% pa, the lowest online mortgage rate; and the 0.11% discount applies for the life of the loan,” Mr Cannon said.

    I have applied for loan with them before 30th June and would get 6.58% which seems to be the best rate with excellent features (According to http://www.Ratecity.com.au)

    Fair enough- let us know how u go with the lender…it would be great to hear some feedback from Cust

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    I will use round figures.

    Home worth $500,000
    Current loan is $300,000 — LVR 60% — lets call this Loan 1 ( can be PPOR or Invest)

    In the above question by slowachiever she/he mentioned a LOC to obtain the deposit ; the another option is a standard basic equity release.

    1. Refinacne with a cash out or top up the loan to a 80% LVR ( higher or lower based on your requirement)
    2. Make sure the bank sets up a “split loan” or in another word another mortgage for this “top up/cash out” – this way the loans are clearly separated for tax reasons and simplicity

    End result

    Home worth $500,000
    Current loan $400,000 @80% LVR

    Loan 1 ( as above) is still $300,000
    New loan called Loan 2 is $100,000


    Total : $400,000

    So in affect you have 2 mortgage secured by one property with the same bank-

    Most loan product theses days allow up to 2-5 splits.

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