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    Reading the post agian:

    “I have a home that I own, I want to borrow against this house and turn it into an investment. The money that was borrowed would then be used to partially fund another property which would then become my PPOR”

    It sounds like he got a PPOR that has no loan- but this will be rented out (no loan so no interest to deduct) HOWEVER he wants to use the equity to buy a ppor?? if that’s the case then sorry the new loan is not tax deductible- as the fund is used for Personal use PPOR.

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    Matt- House unencumbered or not makes no difference in tax deduction..

    Copy and paste from another post:

    Interest is deductible to the extent to which it is incurred in gaining or producing assessable income or in carrying on a business for that purpose and is not of a capital nature ITAA97 s 8-1.

    Interest on borrowed moneys may be deductible where the moneys are used to:

    1. acquire income-producing assets (eg property for rental, shares for dividends: ID 2003/841)
    2. to finance business operations (eg as working capital) or to meet current business expenses (eg overdraft moneys used to pay business outoings like rates, water, management, legal fees etc)

    The security given for the borrowed money is totally irrelevant (TD93/13)

    So really the PROPERTY doesn’t determine if it’s tax deductible or not…it’s the purpose of that fund and the “paper trail you create”….so you can use a PPOR to borrow money on a IP and still have it 100% tax deductible under a normal structure + loan…doesn’t need to be trust etc…

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    Depends on:
    1. Which bank
    2. Which card ( gold, plat etc…)
    3. The credit limit

    Normally if you apply for the CC with your own bank that you do banking with they would only ask for payslips and that’s it….very easy and straight forward.

    Also since you have a IP- your mortgage lender would provide a free CC most of the time.

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    ummm and he didnt even tell you?

    It means what ever you paid him will occur interest as well because it’s “borrowed” :(

    Ohh well learn and live.

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    chito.tsui wrote:
    Thanks for the replies, guys.

    Shape wrote:
    Yes- because it's your money to begin with… Regards Michael

    No the money is a gift from my family member, does it affect the loan approval decision?

    Alright in that case, it’s a diff situation…it’s not your money/ Genuine savings.

    1. Apply to a Non-genuine savings lender – rates will be higher UNLESS your LVR is under 80%

    I would apply for finance first before signing for NGS loans.

    Also what LVR are you going for?

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    Yes- because it’s your money to begin with…

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    I can tell you will get the solicitor’s BILL for sure :)
    hahah

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    More hits = desparate ( as Terry mentioned )

    MOST ppl once they get their first approval- they normally go with that.

    Normally 2 outcomes with active credit file
    1. You got rejected by the another banks (something to hide? something we don’t know?)
    2. You may have gotten accepted but is shopping around on your own accord – so why waste our time on your file …if your not serious or not certain.

    The big 4 banks has a credit scoring system, if your file is to active the system will AUTO reject you.

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    Tenants in common- you will find it on the bottom of a standard “2005 sale contract” OR if it’s a RESVIC contract it will written within the first 4 pages.

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    A lot of ppl would tell you to use a trust, as it will give you the flexabililty of shifting the tax position and ownership year by year + protection.

    However to keep things simple- you can buy it in both names and have a nominated % ( more for the higher income owner…you)- the slae contract will have this as ” Tenants in Common” – and you will nominate the %… it has to be set up correctly right from the start BEFORE you sign the 10% deposit contract….

    See an accountant before you go ahead with any purchase.

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    $7600 for that and your SUPPLYING the material as well!! def over priced.

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    Simple answer- no you can’t….

    You can’t use credit to pay for credit- The credit card company don’t care! but they will chagre you interest on it from day ONE ( it’s not interest free!! as it’s a cash in advance…not a “purchase”) …the bank however will not lend you the money if you used credit to pay for credit + the bank always write out a cheque to the BUILDER for the construction loans ( fund’s controlled)

    P.s you could use credit card to pay for another expenses on this PPOR or IP….

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    Hi,

    To compare the fee’s it depends on Location?

    management fee 8.25% – a bithigh, but if it’s in a rural location then there’s not much you can do here..

    Not sure why you are paying the below cost— it should be part of the Management fee!

    property condition report $155 include GST
    inventory report $77 GST
    routine inspection charge $77 include GST
    final bond inspection and processing $100 GST
    incidental charges $88 per hours ( WOW!! 88 /hr !!)

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    It sound like your using your own cash for the 10%….
    then your applying for a 100% finance from equity release/X-cross etc..

    If that’s the case, then No you won’t get your money back as the bank will not subsidize you for your part….they will only finance the purchase directly

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    Having a DB is about protection and flexabililty as well…not just about cost….if it comes down to cost- then yes DB will lose out “most” of the time ( the DB is a business …they need to make money ^^)

    Good example of when a DB is recommended:

    1. Off the plan purchase – should the builder default, instead of chasing up your 10% back ,.you only lose out the money you pay for the DB.
    2. Money tired up- If you don’t have access to your 10% required because it’s tired up in some long term/ short term bond, term deposit or your selling a place and don’t have access to the cash yet then having a DB will give you flexabililty in time + may save you $$$ especially if your breaking a 3 + years bond early.

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    How delayed are we talking about? 2 month ? 5 years? 10?

    Either way, CGT can not be pushed over or delayed it’s not like a stock ( rolling liabilities); you pay CGT within that year you sell…so if it was offloaded on 1st July then you got one full year….

    A bit to late for trust; as it’s in your name already and to do a name transfer will occur stamp duty + the same rules applies anyway.

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    ahah i read her story in the recent MFAA magazine + met her twice a few years back both at a CBA conference …

    But dame she is a beast….she does the work of 5 ppl LOL!
    The stress, paper work and time to write 50 loans per month (solo) is CRAZY!

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    HI Bob,

    1. Are you contracting? part time? ie what is wrong with your salary….just beawre even though some bank may think your salary is weird and not “normal” when you approach another banks they may be more then happy to accept it! don;t take a NO from 1-2 bank as the answer.

    I seen bank’s accept a self employed with 1 day ABN!! that’s right 1 day…

    2. Yes you can….but the only way to go about this is either via as a guarantor loan OR as a 2nd applicant (easiest way)

    3. Setting up the trust won’t allow you to gain equity, don’t JUST set up a trust because you can…understand how it works first

    4. Dont go commercial if you don’t have to… going commercial is a lot easier sometimes becasue they are willing to bend a lot of rules..but the rate will be at least 1.5-2 % more MIN…. + def more set up cost.

    5. No lender’s will not consider the potential increase until it happens …HOWEVER if it’s a business then commercial lender will consider.

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    Bob shovel wrote:
    Hi everyone!!

    I have been following for a while and found lots of great info available and people who know what they are talking about.

    My problem is I have been researching and ready to get serious about investing/developing but how to get the next one!

    Currently have one property in western sydney LVR about 75% now and negativly geared by about $80/wk

    I am keen to buy another but unsure how I will go considering my current situation.

    My wife and I are currently travelling around oz working (central qld now), wife is now the main income earner and my income has dropped dramatically. Overall, we arent to much worse off than if we were settled due to her employer providing accomm.

    1. Will I have troubles refinancing and getting hold of the equity availble (approx 80k) due to my income dropping and becoming irregular? provinding pay slips etc
    2. Can I use my property as security for a purchase if we buy in her name? if I cant access equity
    3. Should I look at setting up a trust to gain access to equity? 
    4. what are the interest rate differences and pros/cons with a commercial loan – trust setup (security, tax benifits)
    5. If we buy and I work on the property to renovate (increase capital) while she works full time, do lenders take into consideration potential growth and future rental income as its an investment? or do they purely base it on purchase price? and what you do is your business??

    Thanks for reading

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    Your kitchen is fine….i would just paint over with Cupboard paint ( i think the brand is called “Knight” $50 for a small tin) + change handle.

    Also as another posters mentioned, if this property is in a affluent area, then that would be a different story…

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    I think your question is how will centerlink find out??
    A question i rather not answer….but if your going to go against the rules; you take a risk- you may not get caught today but you will always be looking behind your back till that day comes.

    Just note when setting up a trust or any financial account; your name is STAMPED all over it + dated…so if they need to backdate any payment made; they can.

    When you open a trust, your still a “guarantor” or a beneficiary of the trust… something you need to declare to centerlink ( there’s a question which ask are you a guarantor of any financial product )

    So really in affect you do own the trust, all your doing is creating a 3rd entity which is set up on a different structure for tax reasons..but the ownership still goes back to you.

    Rather then trying to BEAT the system… just work WITH the system.

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    Peter456 wrote:
    How easy is it to create a new trust and name yourself as appointer of that trust, buy property yourself and give it to the trust. Once property is owned by the trust then you should not occur any potential problems with centrelink as you don’t own any property yourself, but you control property owned by a trust.

    This is better than owning property yourself as centerlink will probably have problems with that. That way you may keep payments being made to you.

    My question is- does centerlink keep track of new trusts as they are being created?

    Also Does centre ink keep track of all people involved in trusts?

    Does centerlink know if you receive a insurance payout?

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