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    Im on $140k gross – but this is BEFORE expenses…after expense it’s more like 30k net passive – and this took a good 7 years to build up + no-development (yet) just rental but all in safe residential property ( all within Sydney metro – all within 1-25 km of CBD) – But my strategy is not rental yield; it’s more capital growth hence the location and high expense.

    Can 200k passive be achieved- absolutely! i have plenty of clients who are well above this 200k mark. It depends on your strategy and where our comfort level lies…

    Since your in WA, if your willing to take the risk you could achieve a must higher figure sooner; it just depends on your risk tolerant…and do note you have a large family + solo income – so some sort of life,income insurance and protection is highly advised!

    P.s i think Richard (qld007) who post regularly on this forum has a very high passive income on his IP.

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    Qlds007 wrote:
    Admitedly i havent done a pogo stick loan for a while.

    Haha…must be one expensive pogo stick :)

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    RobbieP wrote:

    We going slightly off the topic, which was the accuracy of property estimates of Residex and Rest Estate Investar..

    Anyone else found them to be fairly accurate?

    As a investor myself, if you waiting to buy something under the market you have to do it the old fashion way.

    1. Write down all the prices on the current market + right down the size + the specs of the place + street
    then from this figure you can work out what the average are for each street based on size and specs – yes it’s gonna take some time…

    from a investors point of view I use property software for 4 main reasons:

    1. To find last sale date
    2. Sale history and rent history
    3. Prices average /valuation from 1 year ago till current
    4. Graph of medium capital growth in the last 1,3,5,7 and 10 years.

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    ledgend80 wrote:
    Ok so i am toying with the idea of buying some machinery. Just wondering how loans for this is set up.

    ie how many years is financce over, is there a residual and any other info

    cheers lee

    Equipment finance is what your after.
    You can only do this sort of finance in a company name or personal purchase etc…

    Finance can go from 1-5 years and for bigger projects and bigger companies it can be extended to 15 years.
    And yes there are residual value,but that will depend on the valuer’s comments etc..

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    It varies….if it’s in a area with lots of sales then it’s only 5-10% off- as the program has more data to play with.
    However if it’s in an area with average or low sales volume then the value can be off by 10%-20%

    Also when you say accurate, you saying accurate for the Bank’s valuation price? or the market ie selling price? – very different ….

    Lastly the price is based on the average in the last 3- 6 month for simliar size and type; it does not take in consideration;

    1. Material – Brick etc..
    2. Configuration
    3. Original condition or renovated
    4. Looks
    5. Design
    6. Extensions
    7. Pool etc…
    8. Street – main road?

    And each factor will have a effect on the price as well.

    it’s still a useful and neat program to use, but you just need to take in consideration some of the above points.

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    Jpcashflow wrote:
    LOL  Greek and Italian bonds – Sounds like the best investment return out there at the moment
    What can go wrong nothing

    thre greeks dont pay taxes lol

    And they have a history of not paying back their debt as well :)

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    New housing has been declining for years…nothing new :(

    Thats why we have the 10k QLD boost + soon to be released NSW New home concession.

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    It’s pretty much a ” long term deposit ” – you give the government $x , and they give you a return of y %
    The Bonds can be traded and sold but can not be “cashed in”.

    Not to sure what the going rate/yield are for the Gov bonds.
    But generally speaking company bonds pays much higher yield ~ 9-10% for 5-10 years hold…but your comparing a company to the Aus Gov:)

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    There are better means to finance and structure this to offer you a bit more flexibility + a safety buffer …but I wont say it’s silly, since it’s your PPOR + rural + no intention to build.

    Paying cash or finance makes no real difference in the way a land settles/exchanges contract; the only diff is you can exchange faster if you want since you dont need to wait for the bank + this means you might have greater bargaining power to lower the price ( quick settlement)

    But all in all, it’s the same process and settlement period is up to you and vendor to decide but the standard is 45 days ( depending on the state).

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    boney bream wrote:
    We are confident the location is "great"   :)

    Fair enough :)

    It returns 6.8% Gross yield which is ok for Metro capital city.

    Most metro returns 5 -6 % these days; but of course the larger the metro ie Sydney and VIC the lower the rental return..

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    Hard to say without knowing the location….
    It all comes down to the location.

    + your calculation didnt include any stamp duty + another soft cost which would eat up ~ $20k of your deposit :(

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    Answer to your post- Yes low doc is still available, and some banks ONLY does low doc loans…there’s a market for it apparently :)

    With self employed even though the “books” or tax return may be low, there are certain add backs that can be included to boost the bank’s serviceability.

    But most importantly as Jamie and Richard has mentioned; you need to be able to afford the loan to apply for a loan, even for low or no doc.

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    jonesy06 wrote:
    Michael

    I'm looking to find someone who can look at my financials and give me some good solid advice on how to create wealth for my family for the future.

    A few years ago I had another investment property but it was eating all of my cash flow and I had no money, so I had to sell it.
    I finally own my own home and I have one investment which I have nearly paid off and is positive geared.

    I just want some advice or real life stories on how people can buy multiple properties without eating the cash flow??

    Looks like you need to find your self an “A team”- accountants, financial planner etc…As each one will help with your inquiry from asset protection to overall financial cost.

    Regarding helping you find a CF+ property ( seems like what your looking for) , i wouldn’t go past Nathan Birch ( Sydney).

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    I dont know much about this scheme, but my thoughts are;

    Should you repossess the property mentioned;
    1. How do you know the property is not over priced to begin with ie you spent $X and now you got a property worth then what you spent…
    2. What will you do with the property? is it sell-able? oversupply?
    3. What happens if the company you lent the money to goes bust – do you have a caveat on the property? ie a 2nd mortgage/interest on it?
    4. What’s stopping them from selling the property before the Repossession ??? do you have 1st or 2nd interest on the property ie simliar to a bank.

    Sorry plenty of questions; no answers :(

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    jonesy06 wrote:
    Do who can recommend someone in Sydney who can give good financial advice?

    What sort of financial advice are you after?

    Financial planning?
    Property investing? ie BA
    Mortgage?
    Super?
    Insurance and risk management?
    Accountant?
    Debt management?

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    benofbrisbane wrote:
    Hi Everyone – thanks for your comments.

    In regard to the cross collaterisation, that was done with my blessing – I didn't want to pay LMI for the purchase of the IP and didn't want to lose access to the equity I had available in the PPOR through the redraw.

    The 7.11% rate is on a the PPOR which was obtaining in March 2010.  So I guess that was the going rate then.  Are we now entitled to hit the CBA up for a a further discounted rate now? Is this something they do after the loan is written? Should this be something my broker does on a regular basis?

    My loan for the PPOR is $380K, the loan for the first IP is $540 and the new loan will be for around $420 depending on what LVR I opt for.  Should I be getting a lower rate than most?

    Myself and my partner are both employed in long term professional jobs with good incomes.

    Thanks for your comments.

    Ben

    If you get away with LMI “crossed”…it means you could have gotten the same loan uncrossed with no LMI as well…
    Crossing doesn’t mean you “Gain” any extra equity….it just makes it easier for the BANK.

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    JacM wrote:
    Hopefully they will be distracted by the two offers and forget that they can reject them both.  Hopefully they'll be so busy figuring out which offer is better for them that they will indeed accept one of the offers.

    Hahah Jack, i doubt they would accept any of the above offer- especially if they have another offer on board..and 180 days is 0.o bloody long time – but i like your thinking LOL ” forget that they can reject them both…..which offer is better for them that they will indeed accept one ” LOL!!!

    Might use that trick :)

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    Yep i totally agree with Richard,

    The fact it’s a cross loan with LMI is not desirable; i wont go into much detail WHY crossing is not good…but all i can say is LMI is VERY VERY expensive when you cross- as it’s based on the full amount.

    The 7.11% with CBA is not even negotiated down;

    1. 7.11% is based on discount given to client from 1-2 years ago….the NEW discount for ALL client new and old is 6.96-7.06 with CBA wealth package which is what your on….so why arn’t your broker applying for the NEW discount to ALL your loans ( new and existing) which your MORE then entitled to..

    2. If your crossing, YOU/Broker has the ability to drive the rate down further

    3. Loan amount is high enough for a discount.

    So really what is your broker doing? seems like all his/she is doing is lodging the deal – no Structure ( unless you were ok with crossing)+ no negotiated rates, No shop around for cheaper LMI and overall cost etc…

    P.s If your aware your loan is crossed and your fine with that- then it’s ok…it only becomes a problem when you DONT KNOW.

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    Well since we dont know how about where, what the property is, how mnay views, how long ad etc- as each of these factors can play in how you negotiate ( ie different location have different tricks).

    But a few clauses which may get you over the line is:
    1. No cooling period
    2. <6 weeks settlement
    3. Once 10% given no conditions ( simliar to number 1)

    Normally you may need a combination of diff tactics + one of the clauses to get you over…as clauses only may not be enough.

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    Michael

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    The only time i have seen a buyer wanting to delay settlement in this manner is because his finance is not yet up to date/approved- Ie meaning he doesn’t have enough deposit to “settle” the funds– so need time to save up.

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