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Thanks Richard,
I hava made sure all 4 properties are stand alone and would not consider crossing with each other as I don't want the bank to have that much control over me.
I think I would be happy to pay LMI if I could get 90%. How do they work out the cost of LMI? Is it a % of the loan amount?Qlds007 wrote:Hi Shane
Firstly you wont get more than 90% these days on a refinance so would need to pick the property / ies that has the most equity.
LMI is a cost of investing and I dont see any problem in paying it if it means getting ahead with my investments.
Fortunately i have very low gearing on my portoflio so am able to access equity with the need of LMI however i would always keep the loans as standalone and never cross collateralise as releasing equity will become harder if the properties are Xed.
The main concern I have with living in a PPOR is the large chunk of non-deductable money I will be using.Obviously that large chunk of money could be used to buy one or more great investment properties.Tough decision.Any body else think this way?
Thanks guys.I also assume that using my personal stratagy of never selling the whole equation changes.Not paying or paying CGT does not concern me.I was more comparing a rent of say $1000- per week and spending 500k on building a house and living in it.I would have to consider negative gearing benifits,depreciation ect if I never lived in it compared to moving into it myself.
Thats exactly what I was thinking about doing 'Nicklee88'. yours looks great. am assuming that new laminate flooring too.
Casper_1000 wrote:If you cannot subdivide then doesn't that mean the land can only have a single title on it? A duplex would allow two titles on the land? I'm in WA and have a large block but it is zoned R20 (single title only) and just falls short of what is required for a subdivision.Thats correct.Only potential for one title on my 702spm block.My council in Sydney requires a minimum of 450sqm per block to be seperated.
Scott No Mates wrote:Shane, which state are you in? NSW govt recently approved a new planning system allowing greater scope for development. I don't recall all of the details but it was on the dept of planning's website.I'm in NSW.
In a council area that is very strict on these matters-pittwater in sydneyCharyny wrote:Hi ShanemattOur business has painted many kitchens for our own investment properties and clients investment properties. It works very well is such a cost effective solution. We use White Knight products available through Bunnings and Taubmans. We have painted tiles, bench tops and cupboard doors. We always replace old handles with new ones – Ikea sell them for just under $5.00 a handle, but if you shop around you will find some great prices. A tip:- Make sure you remove your cupboards lay them out on tables or stands, sand back lightly and paint inside and out. This way gives you the best effect. You can just replace the bench top if you are unsure aboput painting it, try find a supplyer that you can go directly through which can save you alot of money. We also do all of the above to bathrooms. If you would like to see some of our before and after pictures, there are some up on our website at the moment, and I will be adding more later today. http://www.housestoimpress.com.au
Hope this helps
Thanks for that info.
Your picturs look great.
Does your business do work in sydney? I am on the northern beaches but I think you may be based in SA only.SHales wrote:A friend painted cabinets with the proper paint. The wood cabinets went fine, but the paint chipped off the melamine cabinets very quickly. This looked pretty bad because she painted black over white, so every little chip showed up really easily. She used the best quality paint that she could find for the job and prepped it all properly.Thanks.There all wood so hopefully should be fine
carpe_diem wrote:Hi Beth et alBear in mind that house prices in Australia are at an extreme in terms of income to cost ratios. It is (or at least was) up there with the US, Spain and Britain. Not so many years ago you could buy a house in Australia for 2.5 times the level of income and these days you pay more like 7.5 times income. In the earlier days you could not borrow from equity so I guess it kept the lid on prices. Once this changed then more investors entered the market which was good as it created jobs and boosted the economy. In my view things started to deteriorate when it became ok for investors to take on more and more debt relying on escalating prices to cover their debt and provide them with more oportunities to buy additional properties. On top of that it became fuelled by the opportunity to borrow even beyond the price of the property (includes money for new car). They were happy days (for some) but it left in its wake for the people behind who had to borrow more and more for the same property that someone a few years before bought for a song.
So the above path we were on was on the basis that house prices would still keep rising notwithstanding the high price/income ratio we had reached. The bubble had to burst and it will burst a lot more than it has today….although unlike the US it will more subtle (won't go to $0 price tags). In some ways the credit crunch in the US (excess house debt and oversupply of houses) has no doubt put the world into a financial spin and perhaps Australia will be spared less the drama of worse off countries but at least in terms of house prices it has brought us down to earth perhaps softer than it would've been had more years gone by when the burst would not have been so subtle). Regardless of the economic woes coming towards us to be sure there will always be a property market available to astute investors. Houses at the lower end of the market will always be in demand wherever there is employment and a shortage of housing. Likewise, in urban areas in good locations where demand exceeds supply and of course in pristine/elite areas and areas where land itself is short in supply for future developments. The capital growth of properties in general is going to be off the boil for a long time but for long term investors the bargains are still there and always will be. Good investors try to keep the level of debt to a sensible level ……for me (and I have done very well based on simply land and location) never let overall debt become higher than overall equity ie no less than 50% total equity in your property portfolio.
Regardless of the prevailing world financial crisis, the bubble on house prices had to change re the points I made earlier on income/price ratio hikes. House prices are already spiralling downwards in the other countries like Britain and will probably get worse now that it is in recession and we know Australia house prices will be impacted further as we approach the door of recession regardless of our more secure economy (based on China).
Any investment has risks (our stock market!) but if the property is good and in a good location that at least provides a guaranteed rental yield then it could make for an excellent long term investment. Not a time now for the short term capital growth hunters in my view.
Cheers CarpeHi Carpe.
That is one way to look at stats.As you know.stats can tell many stories.
If you look at the % of income needed to service a mortgage then I think you'll find that it has dropped to below 30%. Servicability is the key issue.Can a person easily meet the interest payments.
There are many,many cities in the world that have high income to property costs ratio's.I could name many Euro and US ones.
It depends on whether that city is a highly sought after international city.You cannot compare sydney to Alabama and other low profile cities.which the report I assume you are referring to does.
I assume you have calculated all the selling costs (capital gains if not PPOR,edvertising,egent fee's ect ect).
You would have to sell it for a a substantial increase to even bother.Then you've got all the buying costs of the next one (stamp duty,conveyancer ect)
Sounds like a whole lot of hard work.Way to much for me and I've done reno's on my properties and continue to.
Why don't you just keep them and rent them out.Get a reval done after your reno's and use a line of credit to do more and a little portion to spend on yourself..To easy.
My best advise would be to always use investment property experts who are currently successful and doing what you want to do.I am always happy to pay for an expert in property investment tax,mortgage broker,solicitor/conveyancer ect.
I have learned to seek out and pay for the best advise every time.The more I learn,the more I realise how crazy it is to take general advise or use people who earn't currently very successful at it. It doesn't make sense.
As the previous answer to your post said-arrange finance so you know what you can spend ( I even use a investment property expert in this feild) . You will need to learn how to borrow and buy safely.That means having a buffer to cover costs above what rent will cover ect.
You mentioned posative cashflow property and that is fine but make sure you read up both sides of the arguement about buying in blue chip suburbs (usually negatively geared) and less demand suburbs. The difference can mean tens of thousands of dollrs over the years. Micheal Yardney and Ed Chan have excellent books to read on one side of the arguement. Whatever way you choose is fine as long as you have studied the consequences of your choice.
I forgot to mention.I find it massively fun investing in property and its a game that can be played well if you look right into it and get great people helping you along the way.
It is crucial to only take advice from people who specialise in your question and are doing it them selfs right now.That means that you don't go to your local accountant for advise on buying property in trusts.They don't specialise and will almost definately won't be 100% up to date on the latest and best advise. This is a golden rule and have learnt this as I grow my portfolio.
If you ignore this,you will cost yourself dearly.Pay for the best advise every time.
I only use specialist for every step of the way.The cost is simply a business cost.I want them to much much smarter than me in what I am doing.
This applies to mortgage brokers ect (only use ones that understand property investors who buy lots of properties ect) . I sought out one who was a expert in buying in PI trusts.The difference can be huge as I found out.
I use 'Chan and Naylor" in sydney who specialize but there are propably others around you as I don't know where you live.I think they are national
.Anyway,seek others who are very successful at doing what you want to do.
As a rule, time is not the issue but rather equity.
I never purchase another property until I have 20% deposit and a buffer amount to last me 3-5 years.By buffer I mean the shortfall between rent recieved and all other outgoings like interest,council ect.Without having a buffer (either in savings or in a line of credit) , then you are speculating and making it risky.I would rather sleep easily at night.
Also.I get my 20% deposits from line of credits from other properties.I never actually open up my wallet for any property costs at any stage except for the very first one. This makes it possible to keep buying and cover all costs without earning a large income.I certainly don't and own 4 properties in expensive suburbs of Sydney like Bronte and the northern beaches.
Scott No Mates wrote:There is a product on the market from White Knight which is made for painting over glazed tiles – visit hardware heaven to pick up a can. Alternatively, if you want a professional job, there are several companies who will respray tiles and baths on site – this is quite effective and does not scratch off although like anything it will chip if hit hard enough.Thanks for that.
This is a property that may get knocked down in a couple of years so I want to do it cheaply.Do you happen to know if it looks half decent if painted?
perpetrator wrote:WJ Hooker wrote:Have you ever seen a course at tafe for fire alarm testing !!!.Um, yes I have.
This is definately not nessasary according to legislation and thats all that matters.As a previous poster said-it can be done 1 month prior ect ect by the landlord. I let a pro company do my hard wired alarms but there’s no way I’m paying someone $99- to change a battery and press a button on all my other properties.
Good business idea though for those landlords who fall for it or can’t be bothered
Sydney market under 600k is on fire.Its like a buffet line going through the open inspections at the moment.Even if first home buyers grant was taken away,they are only 15% of the market.Interest rates are low and will go lower.Investers like myself are definately getting in.I can feel the competition when putting bids in on properties.
Immigration is still very high even with the reduction.No land available to build on unless you knock something down in the sought after suburbs.rents going up all the time.Very,very low DA approvals for new construction in Sydney.Less than SA for the coming year.
ummester wrote:harb wrote:How will the bottom fall out of a $400K market if you need $500K to replace it and because of increased population numbers there is an increase in demand ?Some ideas follow. Some could be prolonged but some are impossible to avoid in the short term. I will note those with an *
1 – FHOG boost gets taken away.
2 – Unemployment keeps increasing. *
3 – Immigration keeps decreasing. *
4 – Stock increases as BB leave work and sell both PPOR and investment property. *
5 – Negative gearing is reassessd.
6 – Bank lending criterior is tightened further. *As for the 500k replacement cost, that can easilly decrease.
1 – Land is in a bubble because state govt and developers have been maximizing revenue but soon they will realise that 10 sales @ 250K is worth more than 2 @ 500K.
2 – Commodoties have already dropped so building materials will end up costing less.
3 – Overpaid tradies will become increasingly desperate as construction decreases and work for less.
4 – REAs will start talking vendors down in bids to stay employed.It's all tightly connected Harb. Already, near me, 4 bedddys on reasonable blocks are getting close to what I would consider worth buying. And they are only 40K more than a tiny townhouse is worth??? Yeah right. The buyers that have been supporting the market these past few months have little to no deposits and have had finite amounts extended to them as a mortgage. Poor buggers have been sucked in by some pretty evil federal policy. That is the only real floor at the moment.
Qlds007 wrote:Sure whatever.Personally i have my portfolio structured that i can live of the rents for the rest of my live and have no need to ever draw on the equity. With a LVR now at 13% over 30+ properties i expect to have the entire debt paid off in 18 months.
Everyone to their own i guess but LOE is not for me.
As time goes by i will merely start to sell off a property here and there and roll the funds into my SMSF.
Thats a fantastic LVR you've got going and obviously a great position to be in.
Its obvious you have made a big success of PC properties and just proves there are many ways to make money in property.I can think of around half a dozen proven methods.
I will stick to my goal of LOE and take a calculated risk of historic CG in highly sought after suburbs as my way of creating wealth.I too will probably sell a property or two to lower my LVR in the future and use my super payout to do the same (if I don't use it to buy property).
Wish me luck!
WJ Hooker wrote:shanematt,
I congradulate you on doing a good job so far with your properties and asking for peoples inputs.
I personally still think you are relying on property growth for the next 10 years or more to be as in the past, which I don't think is going to happen, but even if it is much less then you will still do OK as far as your plan goes. But I think further down the track you may wish that you kept working a few more years and accumulated some more assets just to make sure of a good income for your last 30 years or so ( I don't know your age but guessing maybe 40 y ?? ).
Best of luck if you do your plan, maybe let us know how it is going every now and then. Assume you also have some superannuation as a backup?I'm 37 and agree that my plan relies on capital growth as its linch pin.Although,the properties I have now are all close to being nuetrally geared and if I want to I could stop buying and let the rent over take the outgoings over time.
Sometimes I wonder whether buying for instant posative cash flow would be the way to go but in the end I think its important to choose a method and specialise in it and therefore become very good at it,rather than chop and change.
All the best to everyone whatever method you choose.
Dazzling wrote:Thought I'd ask the forum what type of vehicle they drive…maybe in the hope of seeing a wide variety of, and number of vehicles. Dr Stanley of the American "Millionaire next door" series had a great list of cars that the wealthy drive…and it wasn't what you'd expect. So, I may as well start off ; We are a one car family, having bought a '97 bog standard white Holden Commodore sedan last year at the Govt auctions for 12K. My dream car is a beat up F150 with all of the redneck extras like mud tyres and spotties on the roof…now that'd impress the Joneses next door. What about you ?? Cheers, Dazzling "No point having a cake if you can't eat it."I sold all bad debt items such as our Audi and BMW and bought a 1999 commodore for $6500-. We only have the one car and a scooter.I did this so I can invest more money in property for the next couple of years.This will allow more borrowing power and therefore bigger assets.I see this as a short term sacrifice for much better long term wealth.
Anyway,I love my little scooter and the commodore has heaps more room than the other two combined.
My tactic is definately working as I've been able to make some great buys in Sydney since selling.