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    not_so_lucky wrote:
    A is doing B a favour by giving her ANY money as it is in A's name afterall.

     
    I don't know, it sounds like the boat was a gift from their father to both of them.  If this is the case, then A should be giving B money, it is not a favour, the boat is partly owned by B.    So what if the boat is in A's name only, that is merely paperwork.   It would be interesting to see what equitable law precedent there is on actual ownership v registration or a vehicle.   It sounds to me like A DOES want to be greedy, afterall.  I agree with Linar, nitpicking over interest etc is likely to cause a family rift.  Why not sell the boat, split the proceeds evenly and give A an extra $2K to cover B's half of maintenance. 

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    Find out if there is a bank in Ceduna, and try to go with the local branch.  The local manager will be more aware of the local economy than someone else.  Some local managers are able to use their discretion a bit re value of local property, because the bank knows that in very small, remote communities, local knowledge is much more up to date than that of a valuer, and also it can cost quite a bit to get a valuer where you want them when you want them in remote areas.  With such a small lend, this might work.

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    You have an amazing story, Holl.  Can I ask how is it that you were liable for the debts which your brother in law incurred in your husbands name without his permission?

    My husband and I had to live very frugally for a period of about 18 months.  I am always grateful for the experience now, as I take less for granted, and have skills that some other people just don't have. 
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    My own electricity bill is nearly $1000 a quarter.  I don't pay my tenant's electricity bill, only water rates which are a few hundred dollars a year.  Local govt rates, landlord's insurance are important things to budget for. Re maintenance costs, I find that you can go a long time without spending any money, then the hot water system will blow up, a light fitting will burn out, an airconditioner will break down and the stove will need replacing all within six months.  Tenants don't do any of their own maintenance, so you are likely to need to either pay someone, or do yourself things like cleaning out gutters, and grease traps,  replacing locks and door handles, fixing cupboard doors, unblocking drains, fitting new o-ring to the toilet, adjusting the toilet cystern float valve etc etc etc.   Then an annual pest inspection / ant/ spider/ cockroach/ silverfish spray will turn up a termite mound in the garden and you'll spend $1500 on a termite control program.   

    I have never owned a weatherboard house, but I believe they really do need painting on the exterior every so often, to keep the timber protected.  Find out from someone what is required here, and budget for it.  For our houses, paint is more about cosmetics than protecting the integrity of the building.  In fact, our PPOR has that vinyl cladding that looks like weatherboard.  It's great.  Never needs painting, and you can even buy it insulated. 

    With an older home, you need to be aware of possibilities like the powerboard needing replacing, wiring needing replacing, how old is HWS? tree and grass root encroachment on drains, and termite protection.  If the house is off the gound, get underneath and have a look around.  Check integrity of flooring and under floor structures in areas where there may be water damage, such as bathroom, laundry and kitchen. 

    Good luck
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    Paint, I reckon is the single best value for money improvement.  Depending upon the construction of the house, sometimes the addition of a new window to open up a living area can be well worth the expense. 

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    Wow Duckster, next time I'm having trouble remembering how to apply all those finance formulas I learnt in Uni, I'm sending you a PM!  That'll save me re reading the 800 page text book on my bookshelf (which i probably really should re read).
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    We called the asbestos authority in our state and found that you CAN do it yourself under certain circumstances.  You could do it yourself if it was your property, but if you were going to do any asbestos work on someone elses property you would need a licence.  So check with your local regulator – they can tell you what the rules are where the property is.

    Why not exit the contract, get a quote to fix it all up properly and reoffer a new price representing your current offer less the cost of the work.  It is a buyers market, you can always find something else.  Remember, insurers don't conver asbestos related claims. 

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    I should add solicitors fees, stamp duty and, importantly, agents selling fees and advertising for sale.

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    connection of services $  ?? $20K wouldn't do the job here for things like DA, surveying and connection of water and electricity and perhaps gas.  Other things the builder might not be including:  Driveways.  Do you need car accom?  Is there a Town Planning requirement for car accom?  Fencing requirements?  Insurance costs, rates, site preparation not included in the builders budget.  Add at least a 10% contingency to budget for unforseen events.  Some might say that is not enough. 

    What happens if you can't sell the finished project?  What will it rent for and how long will you be able to last?  At 6%, 7%, 9% etc etc.  How long is the time line and have you factored in the interest for the amount of time you owe the money for?  What happens if it takes 20% longer, 40% longer than you expected?  Will you require LMI and what will it cost?  Worst case scenario, interest rates to 9 or 10%, project takes twice as long as you expected, can't sell it so you tenant it at 10% less than you could rent out a similar building for now – can you service the loan?  You can sell, but for 20% less than you currently expect – profit or loss?  How big a profit or loss?  How much is left after tax?  Are you happy with that? 

    How are you going to apportion income (loss) between yourself and your mother.  If she borrows some of the money, it won't be a tax deduction for you.

    Good luck
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    Glad to hear he has real estate.  Too many FP's flog the sharemarket.  With 30 IP's he should have some good advice and some handy knowledge.

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    Butt out.

    chances are they won't get the money.

    If they do get the money and it is a disaster they will learn a valuable lesson.

    they are young enough to recover from this mistake.

    You won't win any friends by interfering.  I know that you want to help, but sometimes people just have to learn their own lessons.  It would be different if they had asked your advice, which it doesn't sound like they have. 

    If you just HAVE to say something, make it indirect and not about them.  Make it about you somehow, and bring it up in conversation.  "I don't know how I'm going to afford my repayments when interest rates go up like they are expected to do…"  ,  "did you see that thing on Today Tonight the other week where they were saying it cost no more to buy in some areas than it did to rent – they are so useless on that show, they didn't count rates and insurance and R&M which cost me $x thousand dollars a year",  "Gee I'm glad that I fixed my interest rate for 5 years, now at least I know what my repayments will be and don't have to worry about the rates going up…"

    If you don't already own property yourself then you can change these things to "I want to buy but I'm scared that the market will crash when the FHOG finishes…." etc etc.

    good luck
    always best to keep your nose out of other people business.
    What if you give the wrong advice?
    Try not to judge others too much.  Plenty of people live hand to mouth, day to day but still manage to meet their obligations.  Sometimes have an obligation like a mortgage is the best thing for people as it forces them to do something good with their money.

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    We had a job done recently where drought related ground movement had caused the toilet pipe underneath a cement patio to seperate at a join, allowing grass roots into the pipe, which then of course blocked the pipe.  The plumbing work, including repairing the cement that had to be dug up cost $1000.

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    Well, I might leave suggestions to a few of the more experienced people here.  But congratulations on clawing your way out of the hole.  There is certainly hope for your family with your careful savings habits.  And your timeline might just see you buying at just the right time.  No rush.  Keep saving.  Many of us here are watching and waiting on the market and of the opinion that it is not the best time to buy just yet. 

    Good luck. 
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    1980's built home, brick ends, hardiplank front and sides, 3 bed 1bath.

    R&M costs over four years $2K, $500, $470, $1000.

    Place has been undermaintained (ie has lost condition over the 4 years, only emergency work and one improvement projct have been carried out).  To bring up to same standard at the start of the eight year rental period would require maybe up to $10K.

    So decide – is your R&M budget going to cover bare essentials or are you going to maintain the property at a predetermined standard?

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    Yeah, I feel like that now, too, Scuz, but sometimes it isn't until that house of cards is shaking that you realise just how precarious a situation you are in.  I have solid management experience and accounting training.  To my advantage was a sophisticated spreadsheet which I designed that had all sorts of what if scenarios, and a cash flow timeline.  This spreadsheet let me know that the likelihood of the proverbial hitting the fan was increasing all the time, while I was still able to get out of the deal.  Every time something changed, I changed the spreadsheet.  Bottom line figures started to go below what I considered my minimum acceptable ROI given the risk involved.  Worst case scenario started to go into a loss.  Thank goodness I had the skills to work all that out as the situation unfolded.  Many don't.  And I learnt about the things that I failed to plan for, and the weaknesses in my plan.  I won't attempt development again unless I can do it in a market with which I am intimately familiar. 
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    I'll second skuz's comment.  I've been all excited and went to contract on something that we thought that we could afford, to find the max LVR was different from what we were expecting.  Rather than let it go, I tried my hardest to get finance, spending money on valuations on everything we have, and DA before we even owned the place.  It wasn't until about 4 things went wrong all in the one day that we exited the contact – losing our spends in inspections, valuations and DA, but not losing our deposit as we exited under the terms of the contract.  I'm so glad I got out then.  It would have turned into a disaster if I had held on.  A disaster that we were mortgaged to the hilt to be a part of, a disaster that could well have cost us everything that we had built up to date.

    So don't get too carried away.  Stay focussed and objective.  Don't mortgage yourself to the hilt on something that you have very little knowledge or experience with.  Just because lots of people are interested, doesn't mean that you should be.  There are lots of idiots out there.  Don't follow them.  Now may not be the best time for a beginner to cut their teeth with developing. 

    Good luck
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    skuz,
    There are only about 7 other properties for sale in the area.  Some are more modern brick homes, and one is cheaper, renovated but less of a house than mine.  I think we already stand out because of the excellent shed space, and the price range being pretty sought after.  My only concern would be to ensure street appeal by tidying the front yard, trimming trees etc, I think.   Painting could be done cheaply, but I don't want to go to the expense of new kitchen, and seeing as that needs to be done aswell, I thought perhaps leave the lot to a new owner then they can choose their own colours etc.  Exisiting paint colour is inoffensive, just has had a few years of tenants in it, but seeing as the house is occupied, flaws in the paintwork are not terribly obvious, and it would be hard to paint with the tenant in place.  Perhaps exterior paint would be something to think about, though.
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    blogs wrote:
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    Hi Blogs,
    We are able to service our current debts at whatever the interest rate got to before it started to fall without a problem.  My plan is not to take on any negatively geared debts, and to ensure that when we buy again, the whole thing is positively geared, and likely to remain so when interest rates return to, as you say, more "normal" levels.  This is one of the reasons we haven't bought yet.  So we remain in this position, of having lots of equity, but not being able to borrow more due to serviceability issues.  And it's not just about servicing the loan, it's also about meeting the other costs of holding the properties.  We are just getting to a stage where the cashflow budget needs to include maintenance etc costs, because it is just going to cost too much to pull it out of our own pocket all the time (ie out of our personal spending money). 
    Hope I explained myself well enough.
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    Thanks Shales, like I said no offense intended, just curious as to your thought process etc. I think there are going to be a lot of people caught with their pants down should either interests rates rise (they will have to..) or unemployment will increase (will without doubt…)

    No offense taken.  I agree, there will be alot of people caught out.  I'm trying to be clever and make sure I'm one of the people positioned to take advantage of that.  We'll see how I go, eh?
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    blogs wrote:
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    Don't worry, TonyB, we haven't waited for ever and already have a few properties under our belt.  Our trouble at the moment is lots of equity, not enough income to service a negatively geared property loan. 

    Shales-no offense but if you dont have enough income to service your negatively geared debts at record low interests rates then how/what are you planning on doing if interest rates had/do go back to 'normal' levels?

    Hi Blogs,
    We are able to service our current debts at whatever the interest rate got to before it started to fall without a problem.  My plan is not to take on any negatively geared debts, and to ensure that when we buy again, the whole thing is positively geared, and likely to remain so when interest rates return to, as you say, more "normal" levels.  This is one of the reasons we haven't bought yet.  So we remain in this position, of having lots of equity, but not being able to borrow more due to serviceability issues.  And it's not just about servicing the loan, it's also about meeting the other costs of holding the properties.  We are just getting to a stage where the cashflow budget needs to include maintenance etc costs, because it is just going to cost too much to pull it out of our own pocket all the time (ie out of our personal spending money). 
    Hope I explained myself well enough.
    S

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    A friend painted cabinets with the proper paint.  The wood cabinets went fine, but the paint chipped off the melamine cabinets very quickly.  This looked pretty bad because she painted black over white, so every little chip showed up really easily.  She used the best quality paint that she could find for the job and prepped it all properly. 

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