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Definitely do not panic, lol. There are several other mines surrounding Dysart, but if you did proper due diligence prior to buying you would already know this. It will definitely see a drop in demand with an increase in available properties, but this is a primary example of the risks involved with investing in mining towns.
Good luck to those who have already invested in Dysart, I for one will be watching with interest what affect this mine closure has on property in the area.
Eric,
You may want to enlist the help of some of the finance gurus on this site, but to me after one read through your post the thing that stands out like the dogs proverbials is your loan setup.
I find it strange that you have P&I on your IP and IO on your PPOR, I would have thought it would better the other way round.
Purely my opinion and what stood out. Get an expert to help you make your next move if you’re not sure, there are a few trusted ones in here from time to time.
Hi Wendy,
I have been living in Rockhampton for about a year now after moving down from Mackay. To be totally honest at this point in time I think you are much better investing in a house in rocky. From what research I have done there doesn’t seem to be the same quantity of units in rocky as there are in other similar sized cities, in comparison with mackay for example.
Depending on your budget, you can get some very good houses around the $300k mark which with a bit of cosmetic work will get you a rental return of around $400/week. My preference suburb wise is the range, Allentown and wandal on the south side. These suburbs are close to the two grammar schools, three hospitals, two smaller size shopping centres and the centre of town.
In my opinion the north side of town is overrated, Norman gardens and frenchville are the areas to pick from on that side but at peak hour it can take half an hour to get from the north side to the south side. To urban folk this may sound like heaven, but when you live in a regional centre, if anywhere in the same town takes any longer than thirty minutes to get to it better be worth it.
The central qld uni campus is on the north side which may make glenmore and park avenue worth a look.
If you have your heart set on a unit my personal opinion would be to stay away from the forty unit complexes, you can pick up a 2*2 duplex in the $300-$350k range which with a little spruce up you could stretch to rent each side for $200/week+ depending on condition and location.
There was a good article on Rockhampton in the most recent API Magazine, there were a few little truths stretched but overall it was good article. Rental demand is starting to increase in rocky due to Gladstone demand exceeding supply, the overflow is forcing people to reside in rocky and commute to Gladstone. I have spoken to a couple of reputable local RE agents recently who expect capital growth to kick start in the second half of 2012. Not an astonishing prediction but just confirmation that there are good signs ahead for rocky.
I was born and bred in mackay which has seen an enormous amount of growth and development in the last ten years, rocky actually reminds me of mackay ten years ago. There is a large industrial development planned for gracemere which is about ten minutes west of rocky, about half a dozen new estates opened up out there but beware, mass produced housing with mediocre finishing and mirror imaged housing not just down the same street but throughout an entire estate. I rented in gracemere prior to moving into rocky and I estimated that 90% of the houses were rentals.
Wow, was only going to write a quick reply. Happy to answer any further queries if you have any.
Feel free to PM me with the details, hoping you might be somewhere near me with a quote like that
I don’t know about demolition prices, but to have all the asbestos containing material removed from this house latest quote has come in at $13k.
Thats what I’m thinking Mattsta, $15k for peace of mind
What annoys me is MP’s are supposed to be elected as a representative of the people in their electorate, which seems to be overwhelming support for KRudd, but as we have seen in the media some MP’s have stated that despite their electorate favouring KR they are going to vote for Julia.
Can any modern politicians even spell the word integrity?
I’m studying Business at Uni and have done a few HR subjects which always have an element of leadership in the curriculum, not once do they ever use politics as an example, coincidence?
I think not!
OK
So second inspection has confirmed that 90% of the house is asbestos, walls and ceilings, just waiting on the quote to remove and dispose of it all. I’m not expecting it to be under $15k.
Builder says to just sheet over it but I am concerned what effect it may have on resale in the future as we are obligated to disclose in the contract that the walls and ceilings contain asbestos. I’m not too bothered about it being here, I am more than happy to sheet over it, we don’t have any plans to sell the property and once this renovation is complete there should be no need for further work.
Anyway, still interested in anyones thoughts. Speaking to some local RE Agents this week to see what they think and what has happened historically with this situation in Rockhampton.
Robbie,
I think after the move to the Pilbara with the multitude of opportunity surrounding you I would be asking myself how attached am I to my current career? You don’t have to be in mining forever, but 10-20 years work, smart with money, educate yourself on not only what to invest in but how to create momentum in your investing so you don’t need a syndicate. The option is there if you want to pursue it.
In saying that though, money is definitely not everything and certainly won’t buy you happiness, so if you’re career really is all that, all the best! A syndicate may help you get in quicker, but like any partnership situation, if one person has a change of direction things can get complicated.
I would definitely be checking the T&C’s on the card, I have never heard of a CC that offers interest free on cash advances as someone has already mentioned. Terry, Jamie or Richard would probably be able to confirm or deny this.
So Nat,
how did it go? Was it a learning experience
Catalyst,
unfortunately all internal walls and ceilings are fibro so we will be doing something about the whole house whichever way we go. One quote we got was just fro three walls in the kitchen, to open the kitchen/dining/lounge into open plan, was $2300+GST. I’d do the job myself but I have a young family and I’m not really willing to put their health at risk if I get it wrong having never doe it before. $10k was just removal of the existing walls and ceiling.
WI – We are in Rockhampton, QLD, I might get a few more quotes and see if there are some better options out there.
Hi Josh,
brilliant thread mate.Here’s a link to some info regarding development of the Galilee basin and what infrastructure plans are on the horizon, hope some may find it useful in their decision making.
http://www.qrnational.com.au/MediaCentre/MediaReleases/Documents/QRN%20Galilee.pdf
Looks like good signs for Mackay, Emerald, Alpha, Bowen and some surrounding areas.
Thanks Emma,
I am looking at ripping out all the walls and ceilings in a property I just bought, was hoping to get a rough idea on price in here. Going to do my owner builder qual soon and have a crack at it myself. Fingers crossed. Hoping to save some money that way then get a good plasterer to fix my mistakes.
I have recently moved to Rockhampton after living in Mackay my whole life. My personal opinion would be to stay on the South side of town, there are some new estates growing rapidly in and around Ooralea. Brand new shopping complex currently being finished which contains Woolworths, close proximity to indsutrial sector in Mackay and adjacent to Peak Downs highway which runs west to the Bowen Basin mines. I think the growth in Mackay will be steady. I don't think there are too many opportunities to invest under $500k for 4×2 H&L though.
Gladstone is growing very very quickly, I think there is another couple of threads on here pertaining specifically to it, but I think getting into Gladstone now will see better returns in both rental and capital compared to Mackay.
Definitely possible, you just have to find the right PM business or RE Agent. My PM business is only a small home based one, but we offer a one off fee for advertising, finding and screening tenants and basically hand delivering a short list for approval by the owner with our recommendations/thoughts on each. Once a final decision is made we handle the tenancy agreement before handing it all back to the owner.
Definitely do some asking around as it is possible, if they aren't willing to serve you the customer then they most likely have just failed your first test in looking for a suitable PM. You will figure out pretty quickly which are client focused and which are income focused.
Hope this helps.
Thanks Derek,
I thought, hoped and assumed as much. The plan is for the PPOR to be an IP in 5 years, by which time I would estimate it would be positive and worth the tax advantage of being owned by the trust.
Sorry to Hijack this post, but I have a question similar to this relating to CGT.
If I transfer my PPOR from my name into that of my family trust do I have to pay CGT?
I agree MAQ. Stage 1 of the boom in Gladstone may be over, but stage 2 and 3 are on the way over the course of the next 5 years.
1 Key event in stage 2 will be the construction and operation of Wiggins Island Export Terminal which will be servicing the Surat Basin. Agreed that during the construction phase population peaks, but the operational staff will still be there in significant numbers.
Purely my perception and opinion but I see Gladstone evolving in similar fashion to Mackay, the initial expansion relates directly to mining but after that hundreds od small businesses open up providing support to mining from a coastal base.I could be wrong, as I have been many times before, good thing is I keep learning.
Well it didn't work out the best. Two main reasons:
1. Frame was built on top of the floors
2. Because of the slight grade on the land, clearance on one side of the house was 3ft, on the other only 1ft. The only way the builder would do it was if the floors could be ripped out, which was fine by me but with the frame built on top of the floors it was no longer a viable option. Unfortunately!!So back to the drawing board and look for a more suitable property. Thanks to all who added their thoughts.
p.s. Texaco, as for a few bits of masonite or fibro, there was a few stacks of bricks under the house where they had attempted a DIY support job.