Thanks everyone for your postings. It’s all been very helpful. Please feel free to continue positing if you have a story to tell.
And if anyone is familiar with the Designcrete product that Cevilia has mentioned, I’d love to hear about it too. Does anyone know where these businesses have started up? I think I saw an ad for these startups a while ago in one of those dodgy home business magazines. [^]
In a previous post, you wanted to shoot someone for guessing the state, and now you’ve gone and mentioned the town name! []
Anyway, no, I didn’t buy any. I was just curious about prices and demand. I did purchase one through those auctions earlier in the year. Also purchased one there last year through another agent. These are the properties I’m refereing to when asking about the depreciation schedule, so now that you’ve mentioned the town, has anyone used a quantity surveyor in Whyalla, SA? [8D]
No properties on the west coast. One of the Whyalla properties is very positive, the other will be when I eventually get a tenant! In any case, the rent from one pretty much covers the costs of both, plus seeing capital gains while other investors seek + ip’s. Thanks Steve for bringing out your book – sending the rural markets crazy!
We may not have the best grand prix anymore, but we have the best touring car race instead []
I’ve been considering this myself. I’m on the mailing list for prestigemotorsport.com.au – they send you details of upcoming auctions in Japan.
Had originally been looking at the MR2s and 300ZXs. They can be picked up well below the yard prices. Looking up the price scale through, I think there’s some real dollars to be made. Check the following link – 1988 Bentley Turbo R in Japan, 90000km, $37 to 46K + mods & ORC depending on auction results.
Then checked the listings on Carpoint.com.au – a few 89 & 90 models between $69 & 100K depending on Kms.
Thats a pretty tidy profit – potential to double your money! One deal like that could fund the deposits for a few IPs!
Any accountants reading this – would CGT be applicable for such a deal? Is anyone aware of the number of deals you could do without being an accredited motor trader?
Another option in the auto business is the equivilent to the buy, renovate and sell property strategy. My brother works for a prestige motor dealer and often has to deal with people that pick up cheapish wrecked Ferraris, Porsches, Range Rovers, MGs etc at auction, repair and resell for a good profit. Due to the volume of parts they’re purchasing, my brother always does them a good deal, further increasing their profits. If you’re mechanically minded and have the contacts in the spare parts or crash repair, this seems to be a good money spinner. Plus, you get to drive a ferrari until you sell it!
Is that EP or EG? Can’t see a Gunther St in EP in the street directory.
Anyway, the only EP property was a double – 16&18 Daniel Street if you want to compare it to yours. I didn’t get to look at this one prior to the auction, but the description was “No 16 – 3 bedroom, No 18 – 2 bedroom. Undivided pair in average condition. Structural defects need to be addressed” . A heckler shouted out that it had a broken back! Minimum bid was $115K, very slowly got to $130K which sounded like it was dead on reserve from the way the auctioneer was talking.
A few others passed in, in EV & ES in the $75-90K range. EG, single passed in at 96, double passed in at 161. EE sale at $83.5k for a single and $156K or a double. DP had one single at $83.5, and there were the blocks of units mentioned previously too. Remember that these a basic houses, generally unimproved and some in poor condition, so if yours is a bit special then your price might be justifiable. Check the Messenger for comparable advertisements – plenty in there.
Also saw one sold at auction at DP last weekend for $70k. Very small turnout, 2 bidders – got to $57k I think – below reserve, rejected by vendor (a bank by the sound of it), then the winner made the $70k offer with no further bids. Was a bit rough, graffitti and stuff, but good potential. Someone had actually broken in and tried to steal the security system. Thought that was pretty funny.
Anyway, from the browsing I’ve been doing over the last few months, I’m starting to think that it’s not quite the sellers market that it has been. Too many sellers in that area trying to cash in their gains. Just my opinion.
I’m thinking that might be the way to go – just need to round up a few other interested investors.
Maybe a good business opportunity for any quantity surveyors out there – do a rural road trip once or twice a year to cater for the needs of outback investors. Sounds like a bit of an untapped market to me.
Yeah, I’ve seen the Depro ads. Great if your property on the east cost, but when it’s 400km’s west of Adelaide, the choices of surveyors drop and the costs rise.
Are you familiar with the ‘b’ auctions? I noticed today that they have a SAHT land sale listed. Do they normally sell off houses in the same areas too, or just land?
I attended the ‘e’ and ‘jt’ auctions during the week too. The ‘e’ auction was purely to see how much prices and interest had risen since my purchases there earlier in the year. Was prety stoked – Don’t know of any city areas that are showing the same level of growth at the moment! Wish I’d bought a few more then.
Was pretty suprised by the lack of interest and some of the prices at the ‘jt’ auction. A sign of things to come perhaps?
Hi all,
If there’s a list of people for a potential get-together, please add my email – [email protected] .
An option for organising a gathering could be to use http://landlords.meetup.com . Anyone else think it would be a good idea to use this?
I’ve just stumbled on this site. Looks like a great community and a wealth of knowledge.
Thought I’d provide some details of my experience in the region mentioned.
I own two properties in the Whyalla Norrie 5608 postcode, both ex housing trust semis, which I have purchased in the last 12 months. I’m extremely pleased with the performance of both properties – very cash flow positive, and I’ve been suprised by some capital gains too as the property boom slowly creeps west of Adelaide. The ‘most affordable town in each state’ feature on ACA a few weeks ago will probably help things along as well.
Financing was a fairly painless process. I did, however, have to do some legwork to find a lender that would provide a small home loan. Most banks seem to have limits around the $30-50K marks. Not much good to me when the purchase price & valuation is low 30s and you want to borrow 80%. Adelaide Bank would lend from $10K for a home loan and up to 80% LVR because of the country location, although 80% seems to be the norm for investment properties anyway.
Location details – A few thoughts on the location… I spent most of my childhood there, so had a homeground advantage when purchasing my properties. If you’re not familiar with the town, there are some very desirable spots and some plain dodgy spots. As a general rule, the closer to the beach, the better, with the exception of the few newer estates in the western area that are good but relatively expensive. I’d suggest limiting purchases in the area outside of the McDouall Stuart Ave, Cartledge Ave and Jenkins Ave triangle as there is an abundance of vacant properties and ‘undesirable’ tenants here. (apologies to anyone who lives in the area [])
Property quality – Viscount Slim Ave. area is very sandy. May have to look out for structural problems in this part of town. Housing trust has bulldozed lots of vacant houses in this area.
Risks – Buying in a bad area will mean serious problems finding good tenants. There is an oversupply of low-end housing and it’s getting worse. The Housing Trust has somewhere around 400 vacant houses (at a guess). They’re selling around 15-20 houses per month and these are mostly purchased by investors, so there’s some stiff competition. There is also limited industry. If OneSteel was to close down, there wouldn’t be much left – although the welfare industry would probably boom. 5540 has the same risk with Pasminco.
I’m not bidding at the Oct14 auction but my choices if I were would be the Oldridge, Jones or Jenkins properties – this is only based on location and the description in the property listing though. I haven’t viewed them and probably wont have a chance before the auction.
Hope my thoughts have been useful. Remember that they are just my thoughts and feelings based on my experience in the area. Be sure to do your own research, and good luck with your purchase.